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Occult symbol in the WTS literature?

    Robdar Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:00:00 GMT (9/16/2002) edit


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    I looked at the examples cited and other than the S in King David's hand, I can't see anything that looks even remotely subliminal or occult.

    Robyn

    Nassau Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:34:00 GMT (9/18/2002) edit


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    Let us be fair, guys. What is wrong is wrong but do not accuse people with such stupid nonsense garbage. GIVE ME A BREAK! GET SERIOUS, MAN!!! EXAMINE CAREFULLY THIS PICTURE! FIND HERE THE "S" FOR SHIT OR THE $ FOR SCUM!

    nakedmvistar Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:13:00 GMT (9/18/2002) edit




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    What?
    avengers Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Thu, 19 Sep 2002 07:23:00 GMT (9/19/2002) edit


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    Nassau Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:11:00 GMT (9/19/2002) edit


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    WHAT ABOUT WHAT?
    chasson Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Thu, 19 Sep 2002 11:45:00 GMT (9/19/2002) edit


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    Is someone is interested in the story of this "cargo-cult science", read the story of James Vicary and Wilson Brian Key, the father of "embedded" 's image.

    Read:

     

    http://www.csicop.org/si/9204/subliminal-persuasion.html

    Bye

    Charles

    nakedmvistar Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Fri, 20 Sep 2002 00:52:00 GMT (9/20/2002) edit




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    Nssau wrote:let us be fair, guys. What is wrong is wrong but do not accuse people with such stupid nonsense garbage. GIVE ME A BREAK! GET SERIOUS, MAN!!! EXAMINE CAREFULLY THIS PICTURE! FIND HERE THE "S" FOR SHIT OR THE $ FOR SCUM!"

    ----So I take it you don't think there's hidden symbols in the drawings? And if so why? Or why not? Explain it to me.

    avengers Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Fri, 20 Sep 2002 07:23:00 GMT (9/20/2002) edit


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    Anyone agree with SS' theory?

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    Jerome

    My theory on the reason for the subliminals is to keep the jw's scared. It's part of the brainwashing.

    Here is how it works. Wt readers are presented with two conflicting messages.
    1.The wt has nothing to do w demons/occult.
    2.There are demons/occult images in wt literature.
    The subconscious always picks up the subliminals. The conscious mind suppresses that info. Tension and confusion are created leading to a psychic paralysis. In this helpless state they are open to wt programming. It's effective brainwashing.

    SS

    nakedmvistar Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Fri, 20 Sep 2002 07:53:00 GMT (9/20/2002) edit




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    It's plausible.
    DanielHaase Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Fri, 20 Sep 2002 08:54:00 GMT (9/20/2002) edit




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    Yup, and if you play "Life Without End At Last" backwards.........It even rivals "Stairway To Heaven"
    DeProgram Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Mon, 23 Sep 2002 04:55:00 GMT (9/23/2002) edit




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    I heard a story a while back that one of the artists at Bethel was DF'D for incorporating pictures in his pictures , these may be examples of this artist, One thing that has bothered me is the frequincy in wich they use the words Satan ,or Satan the Devil, I have heard them refer to him as ruler of this world 100's of times, this would seem to be more subliminal than the pictures to me, I remember seeing some parents give there kids a job to keep them busy counting how many times they here the word Jehovah during a meeting or assembly, I have since wondered what count you would come up with if you were to count Satan the Devil and Jehovah seperatly ,wich one would be mentioned more...NP
    COMF Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Mon, 23 Sep 2002 05:11:00 GMT (9/23/2002) edit


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    Of course there are "hidden" images in the pictures.  Man, if you think that's something, you ought to see the hidden images in children's books!  Not only that, but they're there in real photographs.  Actually, on a day with good cumulus clouds you can see thousands of them in the sky!

    Now, we all know that the artists deliberately put those images in the pictures in the publications.  But how do you account for all those images in the clouds?

    Oh yeah, don't forget that famous image of satan's face in the smoke from the twin towers.  I mean, that was even on the cover of National Inquirer! 

    Evil surrounds us... it's everywhere... no place is safe... go into your bedroom and cower in the corner, curled in a fetal ball... it's coming to get you... yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

    LyinEyes Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:42:00 GMT (9/23/2002) edit


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    I am looking at the Revelation book, page 52, Jesus and the others standing there with iron rods.

    Look down to Jesus' right hip area, there is a grey hand looking thing touching or holding the rod that the one directly behind Jesus' right side also has his hand on. What is that spooky looking hand there for,, does it represent something that I have forgotten about? I am seriously seeing this and keep looking at it trying to figure out what it is, it doesn look like a shadow to me.

     

    LyinEyes Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:55:00 GMT (9/23/2002) edit


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    I am so curious as to what this is in the picture that I asked my nine yr old daughter what that thing was. She said it looks like a hand.
    Nassau Re: Occult symbol in the WTS literature? posted Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:54:00 GMT (9/23/2002) edit


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    Of course I do not believe in this kind of fiction! I am not wasting my time trying to see devilish hidden symbols in the WT Magazine. Your research reminds me the Catholic Inquisition History procedure, when the Roman Church was trying to condemn those accused of witchery they wanted to see witchcraft everywhere, from anybody only to justify their job, the accusations. Everybody, without exception, could be suspect of witchery, if was not actively practicing the Roman Apostolic Catholic Church. Occult symbols in someones literature could be the main subject of accusation on one of those religious trials or ecclesiastical tribunals!

    Read this: Such, for example, were the nocturnal riding through the air, the changing of a person's disposition from love to hate, the control of thunder, rain, and sunshine, the transformation of a man into an animal, the intercourse of incubi and succubi with human beings. Not only the attempt to practise such things but the very belief in their possibility is treated by him as a sin for which the confessor must require his penitent to do a serious assigned penance. Gregory VII in 1080 wrote to King Harold of Denmark forbidding witches to be put to death upon presumption of their having caused storms or failure of crops or pestilence. Neither were these the only examples of an effort to stem the tide of unjust suspicion to which these poor creatures were exposed. (See for example the Weihenstephan case discussed by Weiland in the "Zeitschrift f. Kirchengesch.", IX, 592).

     

    One of this days, perhaps, someone will come here, to this Forum, to say that the WTS is connected with the al-Qa'ida & Usama bin Laden and all the 11 of September events! I would not be surprised at all!

    GIVE ME A BREAK!

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