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United Nations General Assembly Report on Objection to Military Service by Jehovah's Witnesses and others | June 3, 2013

    jwleaks posted Thu, 20 Jun 2013 05:22:31 GMT(6/20/2013)

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    JW Leaks has published the June 3, 2013, United Nations General Assembly Analytical Report on Conscientious Objection to Military Service.

    Page 3, paragraph 4, of the report states:

    "The following non-governmental organizations responded: the Associazione Comunita Papa Giovanni XXIII, the Centre for Civil and Political Rights, the European Bureau for Conscientious Objection, the European Organisation of Military Associations, Forum 18 News Service, the German Institute for Human Rights, Human Rights Watch, the International Fellowship of Reconciliation, Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Quaker United Nations Office, the Russian NGO Soldiers’ Mothers of St. Petersburg, the Union of Conscientious Objectors, and War Resisters International."

    This 17 page report deals substantially with Jehovah's Witnesses.

    Also published by JW Leaks is a submission made to the United Nations by The European Association of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses in relation to Tajikistan (dated June 12, 2013).

    http://jwleaks.org/human-rights/

    M yadda yadda 2 posted Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:56:31 GMT(6/20/2013)

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    And.....?

    DesirousOfChange posted Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:54:09 GMT(6/20/2013)

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    And.....it still refers to them as an NGO.

    That I think is the point.

    Doc

    zound posted Fri, 21 Jun 2013 04:33:07 GMT(6/21/2013)

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    Has anyone sent this info or similar to Stephen Bates of the Guardian? Or asked the UN about this?

    M yadda yadda 2 posted Fri, 21 Jun 2013 04:56:26 GMT(6/21/2013)

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    Well this is potentially pretty scandalous. After withdrawing from their UN NGO status following the Guardian newspaper scandal some years ago, aree they now again an NGO member of the UN or not....can anyone please confirm?

    IS THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY A UNITED NATIONS NGO AGAIN????

    wizzstick posted Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:39:09 GMT(6/21/2013)

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    I'm looking here:

    http://www.unodc.org/ngo/list.jsp

    here:

    http://esango.un.org/civilsociety/displayDPISearch.do?method=search&sessionCheck=false

    and here:

    http://www.ngo.org/links/list.htm

    And can't see them.

    Can anyone think what they might be listed under?

    M metaspy posted Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:51:03 GMT(6/21/2013)

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    Regardless of their official status within the UN - they are probably referred to as a NGO because they are not a government.

    TheOldHippie posted Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:12:53 GMT(6/21/2013)

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    They are not referred to as a NGO, it says that " The following non-governmental organizations responded: the Associazione Comunita Papa Giovanni XXIII, the Centre for Civil and Political Rights, the European Bureau for Conscientious Objection, the European Organisation of Military Associations, Forum 18 News Service, the German Institute for Human Rights, Human Rights Watch, the International Fellowship of Reconciliation, Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Quaker United Nations Office, the Russian NGO Soldiers’ Mothers of St. Petersburg, the Union of Conscientious Objectors, and War Resisters International."

    There are no capital letters in the phrase "non-governmental organizations", so they are just that - organizations outside of the government, non-official. But if you see the Russian NGO Soldiers' Mothers of St. Petersburg" they are careful to use the capital letters there in identifying the group as a "real" NGO.

    jhine posted Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:29:18 GMT(6/21/2013)

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    Are they not supposed to have nothing to do with the UN , don't they refer to it as the Scarlet Beast in Revelation ? Even if not officially an NGO still how do they have the nerve to go asking for help off the UN . What would r&f think of that ? Hypocracy at it's best.

    Room 215 posted Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:34:34 GMT(6/21/2013)

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    The Watchtower is de facto an NGO or "Non Governmnetal Orgaization." It's not its NGO status per se, but rather its application for recognition and membership on the list of approved NGOs to the UN that was the source of the scandal.

    TheOldHippie posted Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:43:29 GMT(6/21/2013)

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    Following that logic - if someone hurts you or does you wrong, should you then NOT turn to the judicial system, but solely rely on God to help you and in due time take revenge on the wrong-doer?

    Sapphy posted Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:41:09 GMT(6/21/2013)

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    TheOldHippie and Room 215 have it right. The society is an ngo by reason of being an organisation that is non-government. It is not now associated with the UN as a UN recognised NGO.

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