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Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say.

    blond-moment Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:32:00 GMT (3/24/2012) edit




    Post 199 of 530
    Since 7/20/2011

    This JC is worth listening to, in my opinion He has the elders against the ropes most of discussion.
    If you are only going to listen to one, this one is the money shot, this is the one I wish those curious about JW could hear. 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHIxl-RIwzQ

    Momma-Tossed-Me Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:40:00 GMT (3/24/2012) edit


    United States Florida

    Post 362 of 544
    Since 7/11/2008

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    iCeltic Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:34:00 GMT (3/25/2012) edit




    Post 212 of 334
    Since 10/22/2011

    Is there any more of this?

     

    Thanks for posting

    blond-moment Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:36:00 GMT (3/25/2012) edit




    Post 202 of 530
    Since 7/20/2011

    Yes, he is posting his entire JC, but in small peices at a time.  This is just one part. www.Youtube.com/user/anondude2

    wha happened? Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:48:00 GMT (3/25/2012) edit


    United States California

    Post 6767 of 11085
    Since 10/2/2004

    and I was a JW why?

    irondork Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:59:00 GMT (3/25/2012) edit




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    Since 11/3/2010

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    Flat_Accent Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:39:00 GMT (3/25/2012) edit




    Post 210 of 483
    Since 11/28/2011

    Anondude2 is the man for uploading this. The best bit for me was in a different part where he reads aloud the WT claims about the 'harvest being completed in our 20th century', then reads the scripture in Deuteronomy about false prophets. I also like Jwfairytale's videos where he's gone through the last stages of his time as a Witness.

    blond-moment Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:49:00 GMT (3/25/2012) edit




    Post 206 of 530
    Since 7/20/2011

    Yes, I like JWfairytale a lot. Nothing like hearing it from the horses mouth however. There are a few more of Anondude2 JC videos coming. He was pretty prepared for anything they brought up, he had WT literature discussing from each side of their mouth. Like when he brings up...this article says Jesus is the mediator for only the 144K, yet in this one, it says He is the mediator for all. Which truth is the truth? 

    The "what if they died?"....(elder 1) so what if they did, (elder 2) yeah, what if they did" was just like a punch in the stomach. Unfeeling, uncaring, no empathy, just robot mode. "so what if they did?" Literally made me want to throw up, still makes me sick to my stomach.

    Flat_Accent Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:56:00 GMT (3/25/2012) edit




    Post 213 of 483
    Since 11/28/2011

    Oh yes, I couldn't believe the way they just brushed over a serious question like that. But what's worse is that to them, it's completely logical. And if we'd been asked the same question when we were in the borg, we'd have given a similar answer. Makes ya think. . .

    nugget Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:57:00 GMT (3/25/2012) edit




    Post 2818 of 3544
    Since 11/22/2009

    dreadful to say that those who died due to incorrect doctrine will be resurrected so it doesn't count. 

    Complacent, arrogant and ill informed and they are sitting in judgement on someone else. Words fail me.

    Phizzy Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 15:37:00 GMT (3/25/2012) edit




    Post 752 of 3827
    Since 12/17/2011

    Unbelievable, I hope many get to access this .  The logic does not hit them that if the Blood doctrine is wrong, the resurrection doctrine could be too, so the person has lost the only life they were ever going to get.

    strymeckirules Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 16:26:00 GMT (3/25/2012) edit




    Post 282 of 336
    Since 2/1/2011

    i was yelling at my computer as i listened to the stupid elders try to sidestep all the questions and logic.

    how many JC's are done in the back room after the meeting? that's what this recording sounds like.

     

    wha happened? Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 16:29:00 GMT (3/25/2012) edit


    United States California

    Post 6779 of 11085
    Since 10/2/2004

    A point I hadn't thought of was brought up regarding whether a religion is a true religion. By it's prophacy. I like how he said the WT should be held to the same bar on this as other religions. They couldn't get it. The kept on this light getting brighter bs. Amazing

    Disillusioned Lost-Lamb Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:12:00 GMT (3/26/2012) edit




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    Great Stuff!

    Terry Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:55:00 GMT (3/26/2012) edit


    United States Texas

    Post 12625 of 15132
    Since 6/19/2004

    This would mean that any person in any religion who dies "faithfully" because of wrong doctrine would have to be resurrected, too.

    I'm sure this would not be agreeable to JW's.

    Are they saying the Watchtower Society has King's X?

    If they teach a wrong thing and deaths result, then, Jehovah is obligated to give a free pass to the victim??

     

    Interesting to peer into the mind of Christian Love.

    steve2 Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:05:00 GMT (3/26/2012) edit


    New Zealand

    Post 4537 of 6061
    Since 10/31/2004

    The JW mentality that minimizes the consequences of death because of the promised hereafter in a paradise earth is the same mentality that, under different beliefs, minimizes the carnage and death caused by suicide terrorists (the promised 72 virgins).

    garyneal Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:26:00 GMT (3/26/2012) edit




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    dozy Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:28:00 GMT (3/27/2012) edit


    United States

    Post 1145 of 1306
    Since 2/18/2006

    " dreadful to say that those who died due to incorrect doctrine will be resurrected so it doesn't count.  "

    I had the same response from elders about JWs who died from following the societies advice on transplants or blood treatments that they now allow.  Bizarre.

    slimboyfat Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:44:00 GMT (3/27/2012) edit


    Afghanistan

    Post 5401 of 7547
    Since 11/24/2004

    Well he was a bit all over the place and not terribly factual. Plus how come this seems to be going on in the middle of the congregation?

    Amelia Ashton Re: Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say. posted Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:55:00 GMT (3/27/2012) edit




    Post 677 of 1733
    Since 11/2/2010

    I am reeling from the "what if they did die" attitude. Perhaps they have never lost some-one in death so have absolutely no idea of the devastation and pain death causes.

    Statistically it is a women who has just given birth that is most at risk of death from the blood doctrine! So what if she died!!! What about her husband. What about her new born baby having to grow up with no Mum because of their "incorrect opinion at that time" which as since been adjusted.

    Their callousness makes me feel sick and disgusted and I deeply regret I tried to persuade others to belong to this evil religion.

     

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