Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say.


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    blond-moment posted Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:32:00 GMT(3/24/2012)

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    This JC is worth listening to, in my opinion He has the elders against the ropes most of discussion.
    If you are only going to listen to one, this one is the money shot, this is the one I wish those curious about JW could hear. watch?v=ZHIxl-RIwzQ

    M Momma-Tossed-Me posted Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:40:00 GMT(3/24/2012)

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    iCeltic posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:34:00 GMT(3/25/2012)

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    Is there any more of this?

    Thanks for posting

    blond-moment posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:36:00 GMT(3/25/2012)

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    Yes, he is posting his entire JC, but in small peices at a time. This is just one part.

    M wha happened? posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:48:00 GMT(3/25/2012)

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    and I was a JW why?

    irondork posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:59:00 GMT(3/25/2012)

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    Flat_Accent posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:39:00 GMT(3/25/2012)

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    Anondude2 is the man for uploading this. The best bit for me was in a different part where he reads aloud the WT claims about the 'harvest being completed in our 20th century', then reads the scripture in Deuteronomy about false prophets. I also like Jwfairytale's videos where he's gone through the last stages of his time as a Witness.

    blond-moment posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:49:00 GMT(3/25/2012)

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    Yes, I like JWfairytale a lot. Nothing like hearing it from the horses mouth however. There are a few more of Anondude2 JC videos coming. He was pretty prepared for anything they brought up, he had WT literature discussing from each side of their mouth. Like when he brings up...this article says Jesus is the mediator for only the 144K, yet in this one, it says He is the mediator for all. Which truth is the truth?

    The "what if they died?"....(elder 1) so what if they did, (elder 2) yeah, what if they did" was just like a punch in the stomach. Unfeeling, uncaring, no empathy, just robot mode. "so what if they did?" Literally made me want to throw up, still makes me sick to my stomach.

    Flat_Accent posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:56:00 GMT(3/25/2012)

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    Oh yes, I couldn't believe the way they just brushed over a serious question like that. But what's worse is that to them, it's completely logical. And if we'd been asked the same question when we were in the borg, we'd have given a similar answer. Makes ya think. . .

    nugget posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:57:00 GMT(3/25/2012)

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    dreadful to say that those who died due to incorrect doctrine will be resurrected so it doesn't count.

    Complacent, arrogant and ill informed and they are sitting in judgement on someone else. Words fail me.

    Phizzy posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 15:37:00 GMT(3/25/2012)

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    Unbelievable, I hope many get to access this . The logic does not hit them that if the Blood doctrine is wrong, the resurrection doctrine could be too, so the person has lost the only life they were ever going to get.

    strymeckirules posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 16:26:00 GMT(3/25/2012)

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    i was yelling at my computer as i listened to the stupid elders try to sidestep all the questions and logic.

    how many JC's are done in the back room after the meeting? that's what this recording sounds like.

    M wha happened? posted Sun, 25 Mar 2012 16:29:00 GMT(3/25/2012)

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    A point I hadn't thought of was brought up regarding whether a religion is a true religion. By it's prophacy. I like how he said the WT should be held to the same bar on this as other religions. They couldn't get it. The kept on this light getting brighter bs. Amazing

    Disillusioned Lost-Lamb posted Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:12:00 GMT(3/26/2012)

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    Great Stuff!

    M Terry posted Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:55:00 GMT(3/26/2012)

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    This would mean that any person in any religion who dies "faithfully" because of wrong doctrine would have to be resurrected, too.

    I'm sure this would not be agreeable to JW's.

    Are they saying the Watchtower Society has King's X?

    If they teach a wrong thing and deaths result, then, Jehovah is obligated to give a free pass to the victim??

    Interesting to peer into the mind of Christian Love.

    M steve2 posted Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:05:00 GMT(3/26/2012)

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    The JW mentality that minimizes the consequences of death because of the promised hereafter in a paradise earth is the same mentality that, under different beliefs, minimizes the carnage and death caused by suicide terrorists (the promised 72 virgins).

    garyneal posted Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:26:00 GMT(3/26/2012)

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    M dozy posted Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:28:00 GMT(3/27/2012)

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    " dreadful to say that those who died due to incorrect doctrine will be resurrected so it doesn't count. "

    I had the same response from elders about JWs who died from following the societies advice on transplants or blood treatments that they now allow. Bizarre.

    M slimboyfat posted Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:44:00 GMT(3/27/2012)

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    Well he was a bit all over the place and not terribly factual. Plus how come this seems to be going on in the middle of the congregation?

    Amelia Ashton posted Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:55:00 GMT(3/27/2012)

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    I am reeling from the "what if they did die" attitude. Perhaps they have never lost some-one in death so have absolutely no idea of the devastation and pain death causes.

    Statistically it is a women who has just given birth that is most at risk of death from the blood doctrine! So what if she died!!! What about her husband. What about her new born baby having to grow up with no Mum because of their "incorrect opinion at that time" which as since been adjusted.

    Their callousness makes me feel sick and disgusted and I deeply regret I tried to persuade others to belong to this evil religion.


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