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"Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed

    sizemik "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:29:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit




    Post 3190 of 5268
    Since 3/21/2011

    As some of you know . . . a complaint regarding this comment was forwarded about a week ago to the NZ Human Rights Commission.

    It was simply an email outlining the complaint and quoting the paragraph in question.

    Today I recieved a request for more information as follows . . .

    84305

     

    Hello **************,

     

    My name is Robert Hallowell; I work at the Human Rights Commission as its Legal Counsel.

     

    Thank you for your email of 14 September 2011. Would you be able to send me a copy of the particular edition of Watchtower or a copy of the article that you enquired about?

     

    Kind regards

     

    Robert Hallowell

    Legal Counsel

     

    I have been out for a good few years and have difficulty accessing Watchtower publications.  If somebody could point me to a reliable link that is apolitical re the JW's or have a pdf of the article . . . that would be helpful.

    Also . . . since this is being looked at by a legal representative . . . what additional information / comments would you recommend?

    Thanks for your help.

    Atlantis Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:47:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit




    Post 2843 of 2960
    Since 11/12/2004

    It's in the July 15th, 2011 WT study edition. You can download it at http://www.jw.org/index.html?option=QrYQCsVrGZNT

    See pg.16

    (Credit goes to InterestedOne)

     

    Atlantis

    Atlantis Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:49:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit




    Post 2844 of 2960
    Since 11/12/2004
    talesin Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:52:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit


    Canada

    Post 9532 of 13017
    Since 6/24/2003

     

    sizemik

     

    I can still read your name; the black block doesn't make it unreadable.

     

    t

    Atlantis Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:01:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit




    Post 2845 of 2960
    Since 11/12/2004

    See right under the Main Point: How may some invite apostates into their homes?

    --Atlantis
    sizemik Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:17:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit




    Post 3191 of 5268
    Since 3/21/2011

    I can still read your name; the black block doesn't make it unreadable.

    Thanks Tal . . . not too worried about that one . . . it's one of my many aliases anyway LOL

    Thanks for the links Atlantis.  I also feel I might need to background my reply to provide some context.  I don't want to swamp the guy with info and links, but at the same time would like to be able to convey the complaint with as much import as possible.

    I will put together a draft for feedback later, but any suggestions offered on what to say / include will be much appreciated . . . team effort works best.

    talesin Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:51:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit


    Canada

    Post 9538 of 13017
    Since 6/24/2003

     

    size,, ahaha,,, I see it's been fixed .. one of the admins musta caught it ..

     

    t

    Gayle Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:02:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit


    United States Arizona

    Post 2954 of 3462
    Since 11/17/2006

    wow, sizemik, that is so great!!  We should all write or email to our Human Right Commission of our area.  I am amazed at the response you got and that Mr. Hallowell of Legal Counsel wants the copy.   I may PM you for assistance, is that okay?    

    sizemik Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:06:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit




    Post 3193 of 5268
    Since 3/21/2011

     I may PM you for assistance, is that okay?  . . . Gayle

    Of course.  In fact, it would be nice to be able to mention that the article is the subject of (numerous) complaints in other countries . . . help lift the profile.

    I see it's been fixed .. one of the admins musta caught it ..  . . . Tal

    They're good folks aren't they?

    Gayle Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:26:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit


    United States Arizona

    Post 2955 of 3462
    Since 11/17/2006

    sizemik,,you have a PM,,thx

    clarity Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:26:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit




    Post 1130 of 1565
    Since 8/9/2010

    Size,

    Here is an additional bunch of watchtower quotes that might come in handy.  

     

    http://www.towerwatch.com/Witnesses/Disfellowshipping/the_table_of_demons.htm

    c

    FlyingHighNow Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:31:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit


    United States Michigan

    Post 19947 of 21719
    Since 9/27/2003

    <.......that's what my face looks like after reading that WT. I always was curious about apostate literature. I knew if anyone was to send it, I'd have to read it. Thank God for the internet.

    dinah Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:32:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit


    United States Alabama

    Post 9260 of 9534
    Since 12/6/2005

    Fight!  I've been called everything since I left.  This religion TEARS FAMILIES APART!

    A mother who would turn her back on a child......serious indoctrination and FEAR.

     

    talesin Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:53:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit


    Canada

    Post 9548 of 13017
    Since 6/24/2003

     

    By the way, I didn't mention.... AWESOME!   It will be interesting to see what comes of it. 

     

    tal

     

    * yes, size, good folk *

     

    Quarterback Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 03:30:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit




    Post 309 of 927
    Since 10/24/2010

    This comment would certainly be unwelcomed in Canada.

    sizemik Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 03:36:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit




    Post 3197 of 5268
    Since 3/21/2011

    @Clarity . . . thanks for that link . . . brilliant!

     

     

    trailerfitter Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:56:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit




    Post 157 of 220
    Since 7/19/2011

    Well it is not just you ex JWs that are mentally diseased... I have today (non JW against their teachings) also been accused of having a mental illness.

    cedars Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:59:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit




    Post 287 of 2264
    Since 8/7/2011

    Obviously this mental disease is truly contagious if even non-Witnesses are susceptible?!! Maybe the Society were right after all....

    Alfred Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:01:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit




    Post 402 of 999
    Since 9/10/2010

    Assuming it's ok with Sizemik, could someone possibly please send him an actual copy (not a pdf download) of the July 15 WT? In my experience, having the actual publication on hand (rather than a photocopy or pdf download) tends to be more effective when presenting an argument about any subject... again, this is just an observation from one person... just saying...

    iamwhoiam Re: "Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed posted Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:06:00 GMT (9/21/2011) edit




    Post 46 of 164
    Since 12/24/2010

    I took 10 copies off the counter at my hall in case i need them in the future.

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