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UN involvement after 2001

    Elize UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:47:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 1 of 2
    Since 11/3/2009

    Does anyone know if the Jehova's Witnesses have been involved with the UN after they stopped being an NGO in 2001? I heard they have participated in UN conferences or something like that. Is there anyone who knows any datails?
    JWoods Re: UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:14:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 1310 of 1433
    Since 6/23/2009

    I would not know because I have been gone since 1980 or so, but would be happy to give this a bump for you.  Welcome to the board.
    yknot Re: UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:19:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    Syrian Arab Republic

    Post 5478 of 5635
    Since 8/24/2007

    The Watchtower Tract and Bible Society........in it's various forms associate with UN programmes (Agenda 21 --2008 Germany) to the UN's buddy  the OSCE whose site not only divulges it's paramilitary intiatives but also says the UN is their primary partner organization........which is attended by several branches each year.
    PSacramento Re: UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:25:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 1809 of 2016
    Since 6/22/2009

    So, if I understand thsi correctly, the WT was registered with the UN as a NGO till 2001 but, from what  I gather fromother threads, was wtill a NGO in other parts of the world at least till 2003, yes?

    Which calls into question thier "not a part of this system of things/world" claims, correct?

     
    yknot Re: UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:31:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    Syrian Arab Republic

    Post 5479 of 5635
    Since 8/24/2007

    The WTS disassociated as a direct NGO from the UN in 2001 .....

    From there they have continuously sat on or presented at any conference they felt benefited the Org.

    The WTS doesn't see this as wrong compared to say a R&F accepting a membership to the YMCA to use their swim pool or gym equipment....

    DO as MOTHER says, not as she DOES......

     
    PSacramento Re: UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:37:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 1810 of 2016
    Since 6/22/2009

    Ok, put is there any proof that the WT is involved in worldly things?
    yknot Re: UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:42:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    Syrian Arab Republic

    Post 5480 of 5635
    Since 8/24/2007
    PSacramento Re: UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:50:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 1811 of 2016
    Since 6/22/2009
    PSacramento Re: UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:53:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 1812 of 2016
    Since 6/22/2009

    Sorry for the blank post...

     

    So, Agenda 21 is an UN program in which the JW's ( at least in Germany) are involved in, a program with OTHER religious organizations, the supposed "whores of babylon".

    Nice.

     
    yknot Re: UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:07:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    Syrian Arab Republic

    Post 5482 of 5635
    Since 8/24/2007

    It was a one time event ......however it does show the WTS will associate with the whores of babylon and ride it's beastly vehicles should the WTS decide it is good PR moment.

    The OSCE doings are yearly thing.....
    Elize Re: UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:19:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 2 of 2
    Since 11/3/2009

    Thank you so much for your help!! I talked to my Dad, who is a JW, about the JW's being involved with the UN even after 2001. He seemed really interested and wanted to see proof, so these links will come in handy!!
    JWoods Re: UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:31:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 1315 of 1433
    Since 6/23/2009

    Thank you so much for your help!! I talked to my Dad, who is a JW, about the JW's being involved with the UN even after 2001. He seemed really interested and wanted to see proof, so these links will come in handy!!

    They tried pretty hard to cover their tracks on this one, but it is not so easy in this day of the internet.  As Elize is new, it might be worthwhile to remember that when this scandal broke - the Society used the absolutely incredible excuse for becoming an NGO that they needed to use the UN Library!!!
    This from people who teach that "worldly books" are dangerous and valueless...
    PSacramento Re: UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:36:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 1816 of 2016
    Since 6/22/2009

    Yknot,

    They didn't participate in any other events of Agenda 21?

     
    Atlantis Re: UN involvement after 2001 posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:16:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 2612 of 2617
    Since 11/12/2004

     

    France declares war on Sect influence in the United Nations
     
    Published May 20, 2009
     
     
    A French Government report on sect deviance has denounced what it calls excessive sect activity in international institutions. Scientology and other groups are in its sights, and these groups are putting up fierce resistance.
     
    France has a government agency called the Miviludes, unique in Western countries, whose job it is to track and counter those religious and other groups it considers as being sects. Miviludes is an acronym of the French phrase ‘Mission interministérielle de vigilance et de lutte contre les dérives sectaires, i.e. ‘Interministerial Mission for Monitoring and Combating Cultic Deviancy.’ A sect is defined here as being any religious organisation which can be characterised as employing any of the following methods;
    Mental destabilisation, exorbitant financial demands, a rupture with members’ original environment, power in the hands of one person, the invasion of a person’s physical integrity, the recruitment of children, antisocial preaching and troubling public order, activities which lead it to be tried in a court of law, using parallel economic structures, attempts to infiltrate the workplace, schools, and public powers.
    There are around fifty religions or groups which are being tracked, the most commonly known of which are; Jehovah’s Witnesses, Scientology, Mormons, The Universal Church, Raelians and The Unification Church (Moon.)
     
    Criticism of the Miviludes is fierce, and since the organisation began extending its activities to organisations outside of France it has also been attacked by foreign government agencies such as the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom, which has in the past been highly sceptical about the motives of the Miviludes.
     
    Yesterday saw the release of their 199-page Annual Report, of which ten pages are consecrated to a stinging criticism of the activity of sects and their supporters in the UN and the OSCE (Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe.) The OSCE is the biggest security-oriented intergovernmental organisation on the planet. Its job is to surveille and uphold principles such as fair elections, press freedom and human rights. It is an ad-hoc UN Agency.
    The report notably singles out NGO’s (Non-governmental organizations) which it says are attempting to legitimise sect activities under cover of the principles of religious freedom. They are said to be acting in concert to limit the influence of the Miviludes within the UN by using tactics such as official complaints and smear tactics.
    OSCE/UN services said to be particularly infiltrated are the Office of Democratic Institutions and that of Human Rights. Other major institutions said to be affected are the European Council and the US State Department and its Report on Religious Freedoms in the World.
    NGO’s said to be active in trying to destabilise the Mivilude’s work include Human Rights Without Frontiers, the Institute on Religion and Public Policy, the Beckett Fund for Religious Liberty and the Information and Advice Centre for New Spititualities.
    These and other organisations are said to be acting as front organisations for various religions who do not have UN accredited presence. Most notable amongst them is the Church of Scientology, which has launched several attacks on the Miviludes, notably by using the US State Department’s clout at the UN. The Scientology Internet site logo looks very much like the UN logo and the Church presents itself as being ‘Associated with the UN Department of Public Information.’
    One week ago the Paris offices of the Miviludes were visited by OSCE officials demanding to audit the report before release and check it for what it called any possible human and religious rights abuse. The staff present refused that any documents be taken away. The OSCE intervention was applauded by the Church of Scientology which had appealed to the UN and OSCE in order that they surveille the activities of the Miviludes.
    The fact that France is a fiercely secular country provides a partial explanation for the existence of an organisation as unique and with as much influence as the Miviludes. It has been involved in long-running battles with various religious organisations, or sects as they call them. Now that this battle has moved onto the international stage the stakes have gone up and both sides are sharpening their knives.
     
     
     
     
     
     
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