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    compound complex Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:22:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit




    Post 6715 of 6818
    Since 8/4/2006

     
    Greetings, fellow PC:

    I just finished defragging and feel so much zippier now. I was getting sluggish to the point that all my insides locked up. A new lease on life is really a cool thing, especially when you sense you're headed for the trash heap. Or out the window.

    All my files are now contiguous. Sorta like the 48 ...

    You?

    CCPC

    nelly136 Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:53:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit

    United Kingdom England, Kent

    Post 2609 of 2705
    Since 12/14/2000

    regular disc clean crap clean and defrag amonst other things

    Black Sheep Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:16:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    New Zealand

    Post 3631 of 3819
    Since 8/8/2003

    I recently used a freeware program to get rid of EVERYTHING I didn't absolutely need on that particular XP computer, then defragged twice.

    Lightening startups and shutdowns.  Amazing.

    Nosferatu Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:47:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    Canada Manitoba

    Post 7203 of 7210
    Since 12/16/2002

    I don't defrag my system anymore. It doesn't need it and it's always zippy. I use the ext3 file system.

    drwtsn32 Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:18:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    United States Washington

    Post 7386 of 7391
    Since 5/4/2003

    If you run Vista or Win7, they defrag automatically so there isn't really a need to manually defrag.

    If you have an SSD type hard drive, you shouldn't defrag.  (Fragmentation does not slow down those types of drives, and defragging can cause unnecessary "wear.")

    Defragging usually doesn't make a HUGE difference in performance, unless the drive is horribly fragmented.  That being said, I have an XP desktop with a combination of SSD and regular hard drive storage.  I run Diskeeper software and it keeps my regular hard drives defragged on a regular basis.

     

    BurnTheShips Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:22:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 13423 of 13547
    Since 8/28/2006

    Yes, but only on the servers, especially the ones hosting SQL databases and Exchange. Makes a big difference on the older ones that page a lot because they go over the 4Gb physical memory from time to time. The newer ones are 64bit and SAS on an iSCSI SAN, which kicks AS.

    Just had to throw a little jargon out there for the other IT guys.

    BTS

    drwtsn32 Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:24:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    United States Washington

    Post 7387 of 7391
    Since 5/4/2003

    Nos, not true about ext3.  It fragments just like any file system.  File systems can try to resist it, but they cannot be immune to fragmentation.

    Just ran a fragmentation check on one of my Linux systems:

    /dev/sda3: 291221/30558384 files (9.8% non-contiguous), 24922565/121963471 blocks

    almost 10% fragmentation here.  What's worse is ext3 offers no real online defrag tool.  Ext4 made improvements in this regard and supports online defragmentation.

     

    drwtsn32 Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:27:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    United States Washington

    Post 7388 of 7391
    Since 5/4/2003

    Just had to throw a little jargon out there for the other IT guys.

    You just excited me a little bit. lol

    Seriously though, servers definitely need defragging more regularly, especially file servers.  I typically did not defrag database servers.

    compound complex Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:58:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit




    Post 6720 of 6818
    Since 8/4/2006


    Fellow PCers and, er, MACers [? - I gather Apple is a different animal. Yes?]:

    I appreciate your lively and jargon-filled replies, though I don't get the lingo.

    My notebook is a COMPAQ that I bought used and is probably 7 or 8 years old. It uses Windows XP. When I looked at the analysis of my C drive or disk - whatever it's called - it was the most fragmented I had ever seen it. Now, as Black Sheep commented, it's like lightning.

    Anyway, thanks much. I may may PC illiterate, but if I can stay in touch with you guys, well ...

    CoCo

     

    leavingwt Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:14:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    United States Mississippi

    Post 4778 of 4992
    Since 6/16/2008

    I use this free product to defrag.

    http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag

     

    Elsewhere Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:40:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    United States Texas

    Post 18268 of 18345
    Since 2/8/2002

    My Vista computer is setup to auto-defrag about once a week in the middle of the night. (Vista and Windows 7 are automatically setup to do this when you buy them, so you don't have to worry about setting it up.)

    Defrag most certainly improves the performance of a home computer.

     

    Casper Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:43:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 1852 of 1883
    Since 4/6/2001

     

    Hi CoCo...

    I drive myself nuts, trying to keep my pc clean and tidy.   I defrag on a regular basis, clean out old files and run virus scan often.

    For some reason I am very obsessive about not putting too much on my hard drive, I try and keep it at the very least, 1/2 empty.

    Drives my kids crazy,  since I refuse to download things they are positive that I need... like the newest video and such. 

    Enjoy your new found "Speed"...

    Cas

    OUTLAW Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:48:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    Canada British Columbia

    Post 13750 of 13903
    Since 10/11/2001

    Good Morning Coco..

                                       I clean the system every day..

                                       It has an auto,but auto always leaves a few Dust Bunnies..

                                      To keep a really fast system:

                                                                                    ..Defrag Hard Drive and Registry..

                                                                                    ..Clean registry..

                                                                                    ..Clean junk files..

                                                                                  Your computer will work like it came out of the box..

                                                                                                                                                    ....................... ...OUTLAW

    compound complex Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:58:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit




    Post 6722 of 6818
    Since 8/4/2006


    Thanks, guys and gals, for all the really helpful info. I couldn't believe the difference!

    Much appreciation. Off to work - 6 mile walk.

    Love,

    CoCo

    Goshawk Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:32:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 589 of 599
    Since 10/10/2002

    What are you trying to cover-up when you defrag your hard drive?

    John Doe Re: Do you defrag? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:50:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 12757 of 13238
    Since 4/11/2005

    Hey now!  This is a family forum! 

    compound complex Re: Do you defrag? posted Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:17:00 GMT (11/4/2009) edit




    Post 6726 of 6818
    Since 8/4/2006


    Goshawk:

    My understanding is that the files simply become organized; coverup has never been an issue, as CoCo is aka Pollyanna. Huh?!?!?

    JD:

    You are so right. Family values! Respect for your fellow poster [do you make any exceptions to that?]. Butter wouldn't melt in our mouths. In this case, our typin' fingers ...

    CoCo is no longer a fragment of your imagination.

    Finally-Free Re: Do you defrag? posted Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:34:00 GMT (11/4/2009) edit


    Canada Ontario

    Post 8377 of 8528
    Since 7/15/2005

    I rarely defrag my windows computers, not because they don't need it occasionally but because I rarely think about it. I've had my Mac for 11 months now and I never thought to defrag it. Reading this thread got me curious, so I downloaded a demo of idefrag. It says my disk is 0.2% fragmented, so I don't think I'll bother with it today.

    W

    compound complex Re: Do you defrag? posted Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:40:00 GMT (11/4/2009) edit




    Post 6728 of 6818
    Since 8/4/2006


    Thanks, FF, for that bit of info. I was wondering how MAC works. I barely comprehend my COMPAQ ...

    CoCo

    White Dove Re: Do you defrag? posted Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:55:00 GMT (11/4/2009) edit

    Greenland

    Post 4865 of 5091
    Since 3/23/2007

    I don't bother to defrag. It seems that my computer doesn't slow down at all. I keep most of my stuff on a flash so it doesn't crowd space. Not sure if it would crowd much on a dual core, though.

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