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Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes?

    Nostromo Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Sun, 24 May 2009 10:26:00 GMT (5/24/2009) edit




    Post 11 of 98
    Since 4/21/2009

    Lets forget Jaracz and 95-year-old Barr for a while. The 7 new guys will soon have all the power anyway. I'm talking about:

    -Gerrit Losch

    -David Splane 

    -Stephen Lett

    -Samuel Herd

    -Guy Pierce

    -Anthony Morris

    -Geoffrey Jackson

    Have you had any personal experiences about any of these? Is any of them reasonable? It would be very interesting to hear. I dont know much about them, except that Losch had said in Gilead that "many things our publications should be changed" or something like that and that Pierce treated harshly some pedophile victims. Oh and I heard a talk by Herd on the net and it was really scary and cold stuff.

    KAYTEE Re: Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Sun, 24 May 2009 10:39:00 GMT (5/24/2009) edit


    United Kingdom

    Post 567 of 659
    Since 9/7/2002

    "Any hope for positive changes?"

    It’s like manicuring your toe nails ….when your legs are full of gangrene.

    It’s too late!!!!

    KT

    asilentone Re: Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Sun, 24 May 2009 10:46:00 GMT (5/24/2009) edit




    Post 2154 of 6906
    Since 3/25/2008

    Nope!

    Nostromo Re: Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Sun, 24 May 2009 10:47:00 GMT (5/24/2009) edit




    Post 12 of 98
    Since 4/21/2009

    Yeah.. it might be.. but it would still be interesting to hear about these guys. Is there any slightest possibility that one of them would see how things really are in the org. and start reforming things?

    asilentone Re: Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Sun, 24 May 2009 11:05:00 GMT (5/24/2009) edit




    Post 2155 of 6906
    Since 3/25/2008

    I doubt it, sorry mate!

    Marjorie Re: Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Sun, 24 May 2009 11:21:00 GMT (5/24/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 342 of 365
    Since 12/14/2007

    Oh you poor, trusting soul.  Hoping against hope.

    The WTS will become more cultic, not less.

    Why do you think they have two Watchtowers? Because they want to be more controlling, not less.

    If the WTS becomes more normalized, they'll lose that special 'persecuted' feeling. And more normal means less control, and we can't have any of that, now can we?

     

    Confucious Re: Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Sun, 24 May 2009 11:26:00 GMT (5/24/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 747 of 810
    Since 7/17/2003

    I know Tony Morris real well.

    He's a class act.

     

    jwfacts Re: Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Sun, 24 May 2009 12:10:00 GMT (5/24/2009) edit


    Australia New South Wales

    Post 4653 of 6601
    Since 6/25/2005

    I don't think there is too much hope for change, you don't get to be on the GB without years of proving yourself an organization man.

    I personally know Geoffrey Jackson. He grew up in Tasmania, which is a small remote island at the bottom of Australia. He is extremely witty and a few of his childhood friends were put out by his appointment, thinking he was not serious enough to be on the GB. People also were quite offended when he started to claim to be of the anointed in his late 30's (or possibly early 40's). 

    He made the first dictionary for the language of Tuvalu where he was a special pioneer and became favoured by the king of Tuvalu who he would have meals with, so he does not seem to have an issue with mixing with politics. 

    I personally think he is too smart to be on the GB and not see that it is crazy religion. But that he has gotten so far in the religion indicates he does believe in it. Unfortunately I obviously cannot see him anymore, so don't know if his opinions have changed since being on the GB. I would love to talk to him a see how he feels about things these days.

     

    Witness 007 Re: Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Sun, 24 May 2009 12:36:00 GMT (5/24/2009) edit


    Australia

    Post 3760 of 5458
    Since 8/28/2007

    jwfacts.....you make him sound like a possible future "Ray Franz" type???

    jwfacts Re: Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Sun, 24 May 2009 23:39:00 GMT (5/24/2009) edit


    Australia New South Wales

    Post 4654 of 6601
    Since 6/25/2005

    I'm not sure, I have always thought he may be another R Franz. But his wife and MIL are some of the most devoted (obsessed) JWs I knew, so without their support it would be exceptionally hard for him.

     

    sweet pea Re: Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Mon, 25 May 2009 00:28:00 GMT (5/25/2009) edit


    United States California

    Post 890 of 1241
    Since 4/10/2007

    jwfacts - did you ever hear any scoop on the Jaracz getting demoted at Australian Bethel story?

     

    jwfacts Re: Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Mon, 25 May 2009 00:49:00 GMT (5/25/2009) edit


    Australia New South Wales

    Post 4655 of 6601
    Since 6/25/2005

    Hi sweet pea. No, I have not heard about Jaracz getting demoted.

    One story from the Aust bethel was the Branch Overseer from the 1980's (I think) was an alcoholic. He was booked drink driving back to Bethel one night and was subsequently kicked out. Apparently he struggled with alcholism for the rest of his life but sadly kept coming back to the JWs, so continued inline for a life of humilation from Watchtower discipline. 

    sspo Re: Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Mon, 25 May 2009 21:28:00 GMT (5/25/2009) edit


    Iran

    Post 1808 of 2125
    Since 6/25/2006

    Positive changes?

    Like what ? 

    The religion is a cult and it has destroyed literally lives for the last 140 years.

    Would you like to see a few less lives destroyed?

     

    PopeOfEruke Re: Do you happen to know any of the 7 newer GB members? What are they like? Any hope for positive changes? posted Wed, 27 May 2009 01:39:00 GMT (5/27/2009) edit


    Liechtenstein

    Post 2354 of 2402
    Since 8/6/2001

    One story from the Aust bethel was the Branch Overseer from the 1980's (I think) was an alcoholic. He was booked drink driving back to Bethel one night and was subsequently kicked out. Apparently he struggled with alcholism for the rest of his life but sadly kept coming back to the JWs, so continued inline for a life of humilation from Watchtower discipline. 

     

    Was this perhaps David Madzay, an Aussie D.O??

    I believe David was found in tragic circumstances some years later. A really nice guy from what I heard but rumours of being an alcoholic.

    Pope

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