WTS comments UN case in Portuguese newspaper

Testemunhas de Jeová Ligaram-se à "Besta"
(Jehovah's Witnesses Connected with the "Beast")
http://jornal.publico.pt/2001/10/20/Sociedade/S05.html
http://jornal.publico.pt/2001/10/20/Sociedade/S05CX01.html

Excerpts:

«"The registry as NGO was made only to be able to give humanitarian help and defend the human rights in several countries of the world", said to [the newspaper] Público Pedro Candeias, spokesman of the Association of Jehovah's Witnesses [AJW] in Portugal. In Portugal, however, the disaffiliation from the registry is not yet officially known by the AJW, which represents nearly 50,000 believers.»

«This [JW] official says the religious group to which he belongs has had "an important role" in the help to populations of countries like Angola, Bosnia, Georgia, Rwanda and other African or Latin-American [countries]. "To reach those countries was complicated and, for that reason, it was necessary to registry" the WTBTS in the United Nations. But that registry, he says, does not compromise the Jehovah's Witnesses with "any political involvement" with the UNO.»

«"It is not a political maneuver", says the AJW spokesman, "because without the support of the UNO it would not be possible to distribute humanitarian help". And as the registry "does not violate the statutory precepts" of the JW, the criticisms to the registry in the DPI "do not have any basis", says Pedro Candeias.»

[end of newspaper excerpts]

If the criticisms "do not have any basis", and if the registry is so important "to give humanitarian help and defend the human rights in several countries of the world", why has the Watchtower Society hurriedly disaffiliated itself from the United Nations after the case was made known on the Internet?

The JW spokesman lied when he said the registry with the UN does not compromise the Jehovah's Witnesses with any political involvement with the United Nations.

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H2O Archives 1996-2001: http://geocities.com/osarsif/h2o.htm

What, you were suddenly expecting them to tell the truth now?

mox

Thanks for that info. It would also be enlightening to the non-JW public if the WTS definition of "humanitarian help" were given. It's not what the average reader would assume, nor, I'll bet, is it the definition given in most dictionaries. It's WT-ese for 'selling the WT and Awake and making converts.'

Pat

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I'm sure that the paper MISQUOTED THE BROTHER FROM Bethel

the correct quote is :

, "because without the support of the UNO(Jehovah) it would not be possible to distribute humanitarian help".

I'm sure that is what he said and was merely misquoted

YEA RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Simple question: Why would it not be possible?

First the Watchtower has always been classified as a non govenmnetal organization (NGO).

What happened was the WTS VOLUNTARILY became "associated" with a Department in the United Nations.

This Department's goal is to get the "message" of the UN out and not to support humanitarian aid. Part of the criteria is to SUPPORT the UN charter and provide a way to distribute reports and information that support UN programs.

Something the Watchtoer has said in its publications it is completely against.

hawk

thanks for the excellent research

and the posting of it on this forum.

As usual ...the true reasons are not given..

anyway IF was such a good thing, for humanitarian

reason ..WHY request the termination of status

as an NGO??? All the others gave also logical

comments...difficult to refute.

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

P.S. To give this info' a wider
audience, will you please
post it on the main thread:
"U.N., NGO's and the WTBS ",

Thanks again.

" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".

The WTBTS will no longer assist in all the aforenamed nations in humanitarian help since they disassociated themselves from the UNO?

Since the only humanitarian help the WTBTS gives is the selling of the Watchtower & Awake! mags & books, does this now mean that they will totally stop distribution in these countries?

I believe the majority of the charges dealt with fraud, lying, religious hypocrisy.....but not named political maneuvering. Old lesson.......don't defend yourself against charges until they're made. Maybe the opponent hasn't thought of that particular charge yet.

waiting

Makena

Very interesting, indeed, to see how the branch spokespersons are reacting.

outnfree

Par dessus toutes choses, soyez bons. La bonte est ce qui ressemble le plus a Dieu et ce qui desarme le plus les hommes -- Lacordaire

The spokesman of the Jehovah's Witnesses in Portugal says:

"The registry as NGO was made only to be able to give humanitarian help and defend the human rights in several countries of the world [...] like Angola, Bosnia, Georgia, Rwanda [...] without the support of the UNO it would not be possible to distribute humanitarian help".
(Source: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=14107 )

The spokesman of the Jehovah's Witnesses in Britain says:

"one of our legal corporations registered with the United Nations as a NGO (non-governmental organization) for the sole purpose of getting access to the extensive library of the United Nations."
(Source: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=13530&page=13 )

So, which is it?

These JW public relations guys are a complete joke.

The port. branch is actually in a mass.

The so called spokesman is NOT the usuall spokesmann inPortugal.

Do they know what they are doing????

Happy Day!

in order to help ...the

Bethel in Portugal, one should send them all

the Guardian's articles (...excellent ) and the

latest ...letter from the UK 's Bethel representative:

the famous Paul Gillies!!!

From now on HE will called "..Gillis the GREAT !"

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".

I know this is an OLD thread  but does anyone have a copy of that newspaper article? I'm in the process of making a rebuttal site to that Jehovah's Judgment UK site...

You know what they say: what happens on the Internet, stays on the Internet!

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