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Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE'

lisaBObeesa	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:22:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Post 980 of 2302 Since 5/8/2001	Item Not Found The requested object (http://www3.baylor.edu/church_State/jcs_recent_issues.htm) does not exist on this server. The link you followed is either outdated, inaccurate, or the server has been instructed not to let you have it. When I went to order the Journal, I got this message.
Lady Lee	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:25:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Ontario Post 8011 of 17496 Since 6/29/2001	Ok Now all the guess work can stop. Thank You Barbara and all others who were involved in this. My heart goes out to all those who have had family members die because of WT policy. Seems to me that the WTS of today learned very well how to follow in the footsteps of Rutherford. Sacrifice individuals for the sake of making martyrs and a name for yourself. Even if the cause is pure bunk. People's lives mean nothing as long as the WTS can bilk people of their money and their lives I feel sick
Soledad	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:27:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
New York Post 2233 of 2868 Since 5/8/2002	The WT as consistently called new information or changed doctrine by their favorite phrase "new light" You are right. But wouldn't the WTS have to go and completely re-write the blood pamphlet, or come out with a new edition in order to declare this particular "new light"? How would that look?
glitter	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:29:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Post 732 of 916 Since 8/1/2002	Hopefully that "mis-printed" Blood Card allowing pre-donation will come back and bite them in their arses! That's a huuuuuuge contradiction as are the Cell-Saver machines.
Kudra	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:29:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Yemen Post 1 of 2701 Since 10/18/2005	it seems as if the issue has not yet been posted - for the actual address change the c in church and the s in state to capital letters. also, on my university search (we get free copies of all the online journals) i see the autumn issue has not yet been posted. rebecca
bebu	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:34:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Washington Post 2903 of 4380 Since 3/11/2003	Digesting this carefully... bebu
jgnat	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:35:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Alberta Post 7837 of 21103 Since 7/4/2002	Inbyathread, this article states that because the JW's misrepresent secular evidence, they are not protected by religious freedom. They can be sued over misrepresenting the risks of refusing a blood transfusion. This would be a great document to provide to emergency rooms, local hospitals, and social agencies who temporarily take custody of sick JW children to provide life-saving medical treatments.
lonelysheep	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:35:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Post 1479 of 5062 Since 11/2/2004	Thank you, Barbara!!!!!! Copy, paste, send..... add--I agree, Jgnat....hospitals should have this article.
serendipity	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:36:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Texas Post 247 of 3984 Since 11/19/2005	Hi Kudra, Welcome to the board! Thanks for the tips.
What-A-Coincidence	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:38:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
California Post 18 of 5560 Since 11/23/2005	Thanks Kudra!!! and welcome!!!
Big Tex	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:38:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Texas Post 10281 of 13480 Since 7/11/2002	(((Barbara)))
misspeaches	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:38:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Australian Capital Territory Post 1458 of 3133 Since 3/1/2005	can someone summarise this for a dumbo (ie myself) What does it mean? What are the implications? I've tried reading the article and its going over my head.
Soledad	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:40:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
New York Post 2234 of 2868 Since 5/8/2002	But think of all the family members who are not JWs that lost family members due to the WTS policy. Think of all the non-JW family members fighting to have a blood transfusion administered to a JW family member. The way I see it, there are a lot of "ambulance chasers" out there (sorry if that is offensive to anyone) a creative ad campaign will get the attention of those who are in that situation. How many ads do we see in one day for lawyers who want to advocate for children who were victims of lead poisoning, or for workers who contracted mesothelioma? This is no different.
Kudra	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:41:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Yemen Post 2 of 2701 Since 10/18/2005	yup- I've been lurking for months... well, maybe 2 months. Barbara's bringing us out of the woodwork. My newly found apostate-mind thinks this is all pretty cool! So- is this THE big news..? Kudra
YoursChelbie	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:43:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Post 378 of 1025 Since 6/22/2002	IF the IRS regards these actions as illegal: The misrepresentation of secular facts; The misrepresentation of historians’ writings Then would not the Watchtower corperation be in jeapordy of losing its TAX EXEMPT status? Would not this breaking of the law constitute grounds for the dissolution of the corporation by the State's Attorney general? Requirements for tax exempt status: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf page 5 states: "The organization's purposes and activities may not be illegal or violate fundamental public policy"
jgnat	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:43:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Alberta Post 7838 of 21103 Since 7/4/2002	I think my specialty is summarizing complex puzzles. This article states that because the JW's misrepresent secular evidence, they are not protected by religious freedom. They can be sued over misrepresenting the risks of refusing a blood transfusion. This would be a great document to provide to emergency rooms, local hospitals, and social agencies who temporarily take custody of sick JW children to provide life-saving medical treatments. Also, this opens the way for a class action suit from anyone who was harmed because of the misrepresented information on blood transfusions provided by the WTBTS.
misspeaches	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:45:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Australian Capital Territory Post 1459 of 3133 Since 3/1/2005	Thanx JGNat! I understand it much better now.... Wow that is big news!
Elsewhere	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:46:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Texas Post 13186 of 19538 Since 2/8/2002	This is AWSOME!!!! This is seriously BIG. I wonder how long it will be before we see a class action lawsuit against the WTS!?!?!
spider	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:47:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Post 170 of 181 Since 7/12/2001	This is Big news indeed. I am assuming though that this applies only within U.S. law and can't be applied in other countries. Is that correct?
alamb	Re: Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE' posted Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:51:00 GMT (12/14/2005)
Post 485 of 1016 Since 5/31/2001	Outstanding... Indoctrination by deceptive literature! That's a can of worms there.