How Parents Can Protect Their Children From Misuse of Blood - S-55-E 9/10


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    Anony Mous posted Sat, 04 Feb 2012 08:15:00 GMT(2/4/2012)

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    Not for anyone but elders ;-) - the elders received this document during the last series of elder schools. Not to be shared with anyone. It tells you how well you should not cooperate and rather let your children die and even if there is a court order to continue harassing doctors. After all, you wouldn't want to lose your good graces with Gawd

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    F Mickey mouse posted Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:19:00 GMT(2/4/2012)

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    Thanks Anony Mous

    M watson posted Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:40:00 GMT(2/4/2012)

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    F blondie posted Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:01:00 GMT(2/4/2012)

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    I'll see If I can access; could not see above.

    Anony Mous posted Sun, 05 Feb 2012 00:55:00 GMT(2/5/2012)

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    All of a sudden the above images started showing up in here. I don't know what happened.

    M Pistoff posted Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:40:00 GMT(2/5/2012)

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    I remember being shocked at reading this when others posted it last year.

    It goes BACK to quoting Deut: 12:23-25:

    "Be firmly resolved not to eat the blood...that it may go well with you".

    This idea was abandoned YEARS ago, that blood transfusions are the same as eating blood.

    Whoever wrote this is not concerned about the document agreeing with all of the written material about blood.

    Blood will not feed anyone; the analogy is flawed.

    I wish every witness could see in bold print the encouragement to keep the resurrection hope to themselves as it may make them appear unreasonable.

    Ya think?

    M BluesBrother posted Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:59:00 GMT(2/5/2012)

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    It is amazing, that this most supreme sacrifice - greater than ones own life - is expected as a minimal requirement of all J W parents and not a heroic exemplary thing to do.

    skeeter1 posted Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:00:00 GMT(2/5/2012)

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    In italics, the WTS tells parents to keep badgering the physicians about blood, even after a court decision is rendered.

    Before, JWs were "relieved" to follow Ceasar and accept a court's decision. Now, the WTS tells parents to keep fighting it. Nothing a parent or child does is without the WTS control.


    Joojoobean posted Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:26:00 GMT(2/5/2012)

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    Thankyou so much for sharing these Anony Mous. Hubby and I are putting together as much as we can on 'the blood issue' right now. This a big help. Thanks!

    [still JWs, . . . at the mo]

    3rdgen posted Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:00:00 GMT(2/5/2012)

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    There was a situation in my family a while back that shows the irony of elders telling OTHERS to continuously fight before, during, and after court ordered blood. The baby was born needing blood to survive. The doctor immediately obtained the order, transfused the child and all went well. The couple put up NO resistance except to explain their views BEFORE the blood transfusion. No arguments were made during or afterward.

    The iriony is this: this babys father is an ELDER who told me seceretly that he was VERY glad the court took the decision out of their hands. He was thrilled that his child had the lifesaving treatment and they were guilt - free! Win, win.

    Am I the only one who smells hypocracy???

    Chemical Emotions posted Mon, 06 Feb 2012 00:03:00 GMT(2/6/2012)

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    Can anyone post this directly on here? I can't open it.

    Band on the Run posted Mon, 06 Feb 2012 04:31:00 GMT(2/6/2012)

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    With the legal guns hospitals have, backed with the vast power of the state, a doctor, one who has taken the Hippocratic Oath, is not going to alter treatment plans b/c some Witnesses have an attitude problem. How dare they think their child's life resides with them. They have NO right. What upset me here recently were law journal articles where JW children did die. They are a minority but they should not exist at all. In one of them, an 17-yo boy, with both biological parents opposed, was allowed to die. His custodial "parent" was a Witness.

    Would anyone want to live with the choices made at 17? Of course, the boy no longer faces that problem.

    NOLAW posted Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:01:00 GMT(2/7/2012)

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    What the heck... It is not for elders only! I am not an elder and have one. All parents were given this.

    Seems Anony Mous hasn't attended a meeting for long and his 'sources' are deceiting him-theocratic warefare? ;-)


    Anony Mous posted Tue, 07 Feb 2012 03:56:00 GMT(2/7/2012)

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    I don't know what you're talking about NOLAW.

    a) The document clearly says: Elders may make a copy of this document for their personal use. However, no copies should be made for anyone else.

    b) All parents were not given one of these, I think you're confusing this with the handouts from the KM. The document clearly states that elders should share points from this with expecting parents but not to make copies.

    c) This is an internal form (S-55-E) that was given out during the elder school last year, it is not available from the branch publicly.

    Are you a plant NOLAW? Is misinformation the new tool in this "Theocratic Warfare"?


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