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LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
BizzyBee
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LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:29:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 8110 of 10578 Since 1/9/2006 |
Interesting article on the LA Times front page this morning about a doctor in Fresno, CA who treats JWs without blood. He only promises to repect their wishes, not that they won't die. JW patients flock to him from all over the world. Heartbreaking because many still die needlessly, especially those with leukemia for which blood transfusions are a standard part of their care.
http://www.latimes.com/health/la-me-jehovahs-20120202,0,1225354.story |
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:24:00 GMT
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Post 781 of 1151 Since 10/25/2010 |
But what is the view on stem cell transplants. An article in awake seems to be against them. |
wha happened?
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:35:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 5798 of 11285 Since 10/2/2004 |
So it's really nice that this Dr accomodates JW's in risking their life, to show respect for life.
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james_woods
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:36:00 GMT
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![]() TexasPost 7629 of 15810 Since 10/26/2005 |
He is probably charging them a fortune... |
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:40:00 GMT
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Post 2704 of 3280 Since 4/11/2009 |
Some jws docs will tell you to wait for the new system. |
TD
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:46:00 GMT
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![]() ArizonaPost 3882 of 4485 Since 5/14/2001 |
He is probably charging them a fortune... It actually is considered a lucrative niche market. I was told that by a physician at the Cleveland Clinic |
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:00:00 GMT
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Post 493 of 1184 Since 9/24/2010 |
JW's advancing the science of blood less treatments one dead body at a time. |
Dogpatch
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:31:00 GMT
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DNCall
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 21:35:00 GMT
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Dagney
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 21:59:00 GMT
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CaliforniaPost 3359 of 4307 Since 8/14/2006 |
(@ DNCall: iPad? Click the "HTML" icon. Write replay and upload. It will go to the "Post a reply" box, then submit. I also start with the HTML box, even one word, then upload and complete the reply, and it works. xx) |
DNCall
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:26:00 GMT
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Dagney
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:26:00 GMT
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CaliforniaPost 3360 of 4307 Since 8/14/2006 |
Oops! Sorry. Meant "write reply and upload." |
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:34:00 GMT
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You know what I can't understand. They prohibit blood, but will allow a bone marrow transplant. I didn't need this type of treatment for my leukemia, but I checked. Now they have to kill your own bone marrow in order to make your body ready to accept foreign bone marrow. Which means you may not be able to make blood for a while while the transplant takes. That of course increases the need for transfusions. It just never made sense---unless they look at it as Jews were allowed to eat the marrow. Which I'm sure they do, but it still highlights how ridiculous it is. It's an imaginary, and arbitray line they draw. NC |
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:47:00 GMT
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Post 775 of 1273 Since 10/24/2010 |
They really should give the members the right to choose, based on their concience. |
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:50:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 5810 of 11285 Since 10/2/2004 |
forgot about the marrow, good point |
DNCall
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Fri, 03 Feb 2012 01:50:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 142 of 284 Since 4/8/2008 |
I submitted a letter to the editor of the LA Times in response to this article. I doubt that it will be published, so here it is for you: Kudos to Dr. Michael Lill for providing treatment to Jehovah’s Witnesses despite the fact that he is, as described by Ms. Gorman, “a committed atheist who views [their] belief system as wholly irrational.” Having been a member of the Witness religion for over 50 years, I do, however, take exception to Ms. Gorman’s use of the terms “biblically centered” and “literal interpretation of the Bible” when referring to the Witnesses’ belief regarding blood. The following is a literal interpretation of what the Bible says about blood: When God first allowed Man to kill animals for food, the animal’s blood was to be removed so as not to be eaten. It was to be poured out on the ground. By doing so, Man would be showing proper respect for the sacredness of the animal’s life, in God’s eyes. Jehovah’s Witnesses go far beyond a “literal interpretation of the Bible” when they say that this rule covers blood transfusions. Blood transfusions do not involve the taking of a life, as in the case of killing animals for food. Blood transfusions do not violate the sacredness of life. In fact, they are, in countless cases, the only way to preserve life. Why do the Witnesses believe this way? It is not because they are “biblically centered.” It is to add to their list of beliefs that make them unique among myriad Bible-based religions, thus bolstering the claim that their organization alone is the true religion. It is a case of being organization-centered not biblically centered. Frank Kavelin
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wha happened?
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:01:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 5819 of 11285 Since 10/2/2004 |
ya never know. |
Gayle
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:35:00 GMT
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![]() ArizonaPost 3246 of 4112 Since 11/17/2006 |
I just made a comment on that news site today. Shows 171 commenters there now. Do you sometimes make comments on news articles like this if available? I actually sent a 'thank you' to Dr. Lill. |
BizzyBee
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:10:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 8125 of 10578 Since 1/9/2006 |
Good letter DNC. |
blondie
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Re: LA Times Front Page - JWs Treated Without Blood
posted Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:14:00 GMT
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How many jws know they can have a stem cell transplant? |


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