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Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery!

    ProdigalSon Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 04:38:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit


    United States New York

    Post 760 of 2238
    Since 4/15/2007

    It gets worse daily, it seems. 

    Just saw an hour-long program on this poor guy, on The Learning Channel....

    "The Man Who Lost His Face"

    http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html?paid=2.1213.56437.41352.0

    12-Pound Tumor Swallows Man's Face

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/man-lost-face-tumor-lifesaving-surgery-chicago-doctor/story?id=12943815

    "Helping Jose was complicated by the fact that his mother was a Jehovah's Witness -- a religious denomination that bans blood transfusions -- and she wanted her son to follow her faith."

     

    AudeSapere Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 04:59:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit


    United States California

    Post 4215 of 4398
    Since 2/2/2006

     

    That was such a sad situation.

    I think we had a thread that updated his story a few months ago.  I'll see if I can find it.

    -Aude.

     

    Edit to add:Update can be found toward the bottom of this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/medical/186978/1/Man-With-No-Face-a-Jehovahs-Witness

    Gayle Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:43:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit


    United States Arizona

    Post 2378 of 4144
    Since 11/17/2006

    So then, was this surgery done without blood after all?  I believe that his sister who has been helping him did not share the belief of the JW blood issue.

    dgp Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:01:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit




    Post 1667 of 2869
    Since 7/8/2009

    How sad that this poor man had to go through this.

    Mary Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:18:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit




    Post 12654 of 13286
    Since 6/26/2002

    "Jose would eventually be forced to decide between death from complications of frequent bleeding from the growing tumor, or renouncing his faith and receiving definitive surgery," he said.

     Ya.  But just think how happified Jehovah would be to watch this guy's face not only be taken over by massive tumors which would eventually kill him (after enduring a horrific and painful existence), rather than accept blood from another live human being.

    thetrueone Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:24:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit


    Canada British Columbia

    Post 3230 of 5958
    Since 9/18/2006

    Jehovah, surely isn't this sadistic is he , or is he ?  

     Sadly if you read the OT of the bible he is.    

     

    miseryloveselders Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:43:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit




    Post 2276 of 2878
    Since 8/31/2009

    "Jose would eventually be forced to decide between death from complications of frequent bleeding from the growing tumor, or renouncing his faith and receiving definitive surgery," he said.

     Ya.  But just think how happified Jehovah would be to watch this guy's face not only be taken over by massive tumors which would eventually kill him (after enduring a horrific and painful existence), rather than accept blood from another live human being.

     

    Reading this reminds me of Matthew 12:9-14 when Jesus healed the man's hand on the Sabbath and supports his reasoning for doing so by stating that anyone of  rational mind would in fact lift their fallen sheep out of a pit on the Sabbath. A life or death situation involving the potential use of blood in my opinion would fall under the same umbrella of it being a rational decision to accept a blood transfusion considering the peculiar circumstances.  It's common sense and humane when you think about it. Its preposterous for the WT equate a necessary life sustaining procedure involving blood with eating blood like a rabid animal in biblical times.

    betterdaze Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:59:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit


    United States New Jersey

    Post 1531 of 1781
    Since 2/23/2006


    Who got the ball rolling to give Mestre a new lease on life?

    An anonymous stranger! A "wordly" tourist "soon to be destroyed" at Armageddon, who saw Jose on the street and was moved to help.


    Who paid for it?

    The Portuguese National Health Service, an arm of Satan's wicked, worldwide government. Also STB destroyed.


    Who performed the surgery?

    Dr. McKay, a university-educated specialist with a 25-year history of performing corrective surgeries, not knocking on doors. Not a door-knocking JW = STB destroyed.


    Where?

    At a rotten pagan Roman Catholic hospital founded by nuns, whores of Babylon the Great. STB really, really destroyed!


    Bonus question: Who sat by for 40 years while this man suffered physically, emotionally and spiritually?

    The Jehovah's Witnesses!  Ah, but they Will Live Forever on Paradise Earth™.


    "Peter" the tourist 

    Portuguese National Health Service 

    Dr. McKay 

    St. Joseph Hospital 

    Jehovah's Witnesses        


    ~Sue

    thetrueone Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:01:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit


    Canada British Columbia

    Post 3233 of 5958
    Since 9/18/2006

    Just like so many other doctrines established by the WTS., the blood issue is another that was wrong not just scripturally but morally as well,

    costing the lives of thousands.  If you don't think men putting the power of god in their own hands is dangerous, one can only look

    at what has happened to this stupidly created doctrine by the said solemn organization of god's choosing.

     

     

    1945 is when this doctrine was created around the same time the WTS said Jehovah lives on a certain planet in the solar system. 

     .......  Alcyone in the Pleiades  

    dgp Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:18:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit




    Post 1669 of 2869
    Since 7/8/2009

    It is even worse to think that many a person, worldly or not, will not sympathize with the man enough to understand that the blood doctrine is just dead wrong.  I can hear them:  "He had it coming;  he believes that nonsense", and "You see!  Jehovah provided, and he didn't have to accept a blood transfusion!  What a fine example he is!"

    honorsthesis Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:08:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit




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    Since 1/29/2011

    @thetrueone

    "the WTS said Jehovah lives on a certain planet in the solar system"

    I never heard that before. Source?

     

    whereami Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:15:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit




    Post 899 of 1353
    Since 3/3/2007

    betterdaze, that was brilliant!!!

    AnnOMaly Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:17:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit


    Yugoslavia

    Post 1633 of 3535
    Since 8/11/2003

    honorsthesis - here: http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/god_s_throne_-_pleiades.html (Just need to say that obviously the Pleiades aren't part of our solar system  - slight misunderstanding on thetrueone's part.)

    betterdaze

    ProdigalSon Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:20:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit


    United States New York

    Post 763 of 2238
    Since 4/15/2007

    That was awesome betterdaze!

    Thank you for your comments everyone.

    honorsthesis Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:34:00 GMT (2/21/2011) edit




    Post 35 of 50
    Since 1/29/2011

    Thanks, Ann!

    DanaBug Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:31:00 GMT (2/23/2011) edit




    Post 344 of 649
    Since 9/27/2010

    I saw this too! It didn't say whether he or his sister were Witnesses. They did say the mom died, so they were finally looking for treatment for him. And he did get a transfusion during the operation and they used a cell saver. That story was amazing! A 15 hour surgery! Those tumors were huge, I can't even imagine what that would feel like to live with. Thank God for doctors, medicine, and blood transfusions, lol!

    miseryloveselders Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:31:00 GMT (2/23/2011) edit




    Post 2304 of 2878
    Since 8/31/2009

    BTTT for people to see BetterDaze post. Classic.

    Who got the ball rolling to give Mestre a new lease on life?

    An anonymous stranger! A "wordly" tourist "soon to be destroyed" at Armageddon, who saw Jose on the street and was moved to help.


    Who paid for it?

    The Portuguese National Health Service, an arm of Satan's wicked, worldwide government. Also STB destroyed.


    Who performed the surgery?

    Dr. McKay, a university-educated specialist with a 25-year history of performing corrective surgeries, not knocking on doors. Not a door-knocking JW = STB destroyed.


    Where?

    At a rotten pagan Roman Catholic hospital founded by nuns, whores of Babylon the Great. STB really, really destroyed!


    Bonus question: Who sat by for 40 years while this man suffered physically, emotionally and spiritually?

    The Jehovah's Witnesses!  Ah, but they Will Live Forever on Paradise Earth™.


    "Peter" the tourist 

    Portuguese National Health Service 

    Dr. McKay 

    St. Joseph Hospital 

    Jehovah's Witnesses        


    ~Sue

    Mr. Falcon Re: Man's Face Swallowed By Tumors Because JW Mom Refuses Surgery! posted Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:09:00 GMT (2/23/2011) edit




    Post 92 of 1494
    Since 2/2/2011

    I concur.  Devastating logic by BetterDaze.

    I saw this too the other night.  I had to turn it off when they mentioned how because of his mother, he couldn't get treatment.  Just lay there and bleed.  Thank God for his sister and all the other "wicked" people.

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