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Would you save your life ? or die for your religion?

    LadyxNova Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:29:00 GMT (10/27/2009) edit



    Post 1 of 3
    Since 10/26/2009

    Ok . Im non- Jehovan witness, I am Athiest/Christian. Im 15.

    I just want to ask why would people die for a belief instead of saving a life. A Life is much more sacred then a religion.

    Life is everything, it gives you good and bad choices etc.

    The Blood Transfusion, I was reading couple of articles on how Jehovahs Witness people actually would die for a belief.

    It really got me mad. I read a woman actually let her son Die not allowing him to get a blood transfusion. With just a few drops, it could of saved his life. But she said NO. Like thats really stupid to be honest. Its your son. Would you care for your son to have a great future or to let them die for a belief . Its just blood... Come on. At least some one took the chance on helping that boy. But they refuse.

    So if your a parent or would be a parent or just anyone.. Would you save your child, if they needed blood. Think about their future, Why were they born in the first place. Right.. To live. and be happy.

    Im not discriminating. Im being honest.

    Reply ASAP.

    wobble Re: Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:55:00 GMT (10/27/2009) edit


    United Kingdom

    Post 1659 of 1786
    Since 2/20/2008

    Welcome LadyxNova !

    It's good to have you with us.

    You will find that on this board , most are ex-JW's and agree with you that the WT teaching about Blood and Blood Transfusions is morally, and scripturally, wrong.

    When we were in the cult we viewed things differently. Just as a parent may send his son or daughter to war, and let them die that way, we were willing to risk the life of our children for a false belief. We now spend our efforts trying to educate JW's and others.

    How far I would have gone I cannot say, I love my two sons so much,that I think I may have allowed a transfusion in the end if it meant there life, I don't know.

    It is difficult for one such as yourself to appreciate the mind-control exercised by cults like the WT/JW, but look up on the Net about the Jim Jones cult and you can see the dreadful effect of mind-control. 

    Welcome again,

    Love

    Wobble

    LadyxNova Re: Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:09:00 GMT (10/27/2009) edit



    Post 2 of 3
    Since 10/26/2009

    Thank you. At least you have a sence of mind Of love. And actually thinking about your sons.

    Its just not fair. But still , you shouldnt risk your children for a belief. They are your children, gods children. Its like taking them away.

    A belief should be hoping everyone is happy etc. If there wasnt blood transfusion, lives would be lost.

    Sometimes Religion shouldnt interrupt saving a Life. eg Believing Blood trans. is wrong, and stay with their beliefs.

     

    jamiebowers Re: Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:25:00 GMT (10/27/2009) edit


    United States Ohio

    Post 2638 of 2853
    Since 1/27/2007

    Unless you've ever been in a cult you will never undersand the mindset of a jw.  Many people on this board risked their lives by submitting to the cult.  I never had to face the blood issue, but I did risk my life for several years by remaing married to a mentally ill jw husband who physically abused and threatened to kill me.  People will do almost anything to stay in a cult when they're brainwashed to do so. 

    VoidEater Re: Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:46:00 GMT (10/27/2009) edit

    United States

    Post 2468 of 2548
    Since 10/30/2007

    Welcome.

    Sadly, there are a lot of JWs in a kind of trance.  They've been taught that it's sacred to kill your children for God, such as Abraham was asked to do to Isaac.  Maybe some of them even think that, like in that Bible story, an angel will come to tell them the killing's been 86ed.

    Kinda sick, really.

    But then this is also part and parcel of the WTS mindset against really being connected to anyone or anything on Earth - the world is full of sin and error, nothing is worth saving, only following the rules of the WTS is important.

    Once you believe that, any manner of evil is possible in a krazy kult.

    PSacramento Re: Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:49:00 GMT (10/27/2009) edit



    Post 1742 of 2016
    Since 6/22/2009

    There is nothing more sacred than life and no responsibility greater than being a parent and having the life of your child in your hands.

    Choose life, period.

     

    finallysomepride Re: Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:52:00 GMT (10/27/2009) edit



    Post 27 of 141
    Since 7/22/2009

    Life, life & Life.

    I once refused to allow the doctors the use of blood during an operation on my throat, thank goodness the op went ok, so everything was fine, in the months after that i decided if i needed blood i would accept it. that was almost 30 years ago.

    TD Re: Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:37:00 GMT (10/28/2009) edit


    United States Arizona

    Post 2148 of 2192
    Since 5/14/2001

     

    Hi LadyxNova

    The leaders, writers and policy makers in the JW faith have seen to it that the rank and file are horribly misinformed on this issue. It is only the broad protections afforded under the banner of "Freedom of religion" that protects them from prosecution.

    Most JW's truly, honestly believe that transfusion medicine is bad; that it has killed far more people than it has saved; that there are always quality medical alternatives; and that doctors who resort to transfusion are "Lazy."

    When a JW dies in obedience to this teaching, their family and friends are stunned and devastated. --Very sad, really.

     

     

    Awen Re: Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:19:00 GMT (10/28/2009) edit



    Post 16 of 51
    Since 10/5/2009

    I would die to protect a friend's life.  I would die because my religious beliefs do not coincide with others and they choose to kill me because of that. I would do my best to escape them, but if caught, I wouldn't recant my beliefs. For if we disown Jesus in front of men, he will dosown us in front of the Father and the heavenly angels.

    glenster Re: Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:35:00 GMT (10/28/2009) edit


    United States Pennsylvania

    Post 544 of 604
    Since 1/26/2007

      What I have on the JWs leaders' stance that the Bible bans the medical use of
    blood and major blood fractions, and the maintream views about it, is on pp.11-
    42 at the next link.
      http://glenster1.webs.com/gtjbrooklyn11.htm

    chickpea Re: Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:20:00 GMT (10/28/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 2346 of 2449
    Since 11/25/2007

    i would do a lot of things to save my life,
    or the lives of my family and friends
    including taking another....
    (former military service member here)

    i wouldnt die for any religion
    since i adhere to none....

    which doesnt preclude that
    i may well die because of someone
    else's adherence to a relgion....
    there is a lot of that going around

    LongHairGal Re: Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:34:00 GMT (11/2/2009) edit

    United States

    Post 1845 of 1857
    Since 3/11/2005

    I would definitely try to save my life.  After what I know and have been through, I would never die for some religion.  I know there was a time I stupidly would have given another answer but not now.   The only person I think I would ever die for would be a child of mine. 

    Finally-Free Re: Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:42:00 GMT (11/2/2009) edit


    Canada Ontario

    Post 8370 of 8527
    Since 7/15/2005

    I would never die for a religion. If the tables were turned, they would certainly never die for me.

    W

    cantleave Re: Would you save your life ? or die for your religion? posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:45:00 GMT (11/2/2009) edit



    Post 796 of 962
    Since 6/25/2009

    I would want the best medical treatment available to me and my family. If that involved the use of blood so be it! When I was an active witness I felt differently, because I really believed that Gods rules included the refusal of blood for transfusion purposes. The breaking of that rule could result in me and my family members losing out on the opportunity of living forever in a paradise Earth.

    I know it sounds screwy and of course it is, but it demonstrates how scriptural misinformation in a high control society can influence anyone.

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