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Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
insearchoftruth
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Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:35:00 GMT
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VirginiaPost 1120 of 1564 Since 2/9/2006 |
I know very little about medicine, but from the reading I have done on this and other boards, I understand that the matter of conscience to allow blood fractions has most likely saved many lives. Very few tranfusions done today are whole blood, but I don't know how many. Was wondering if anyone here knows what portion of transfusions that take place are not allowed. |
Tuesday
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:50:00 GMT
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![]() Rhode IslandPost 1483 of 1796 Since 4/4/2003 |
No transfusions are done of whole blood, once blood is collected it is separated right away for storage purposes. This has been the case since 1935. Even if someone received all the components of blood chances are they wouldn't be from the same donor just the same type of blood. |
insearchoftruth
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:03:00 GMT
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VirginiaPost 1122 of 1564 Since 2/9/2006 |
Thanks Tuesday..... I guess what I am wondering, maybe I will state it better this time, is what medical practices today regarding blood transfusions would not be allowed as a matter of conscience, and if there are practices not allowed, how common are these practices. Not sure if I am asking my question correctly or not? |
Tuesday
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:17:00 GMT
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![]() Rhode IslandPost 1485 of 1796 Since 4/4/2003 |
Well a regular blood transfusion isn't allowed, however fractions of that blood transfusion are allowed. The literature leads people to believe that a blood transfusion is made up of whole blood, which it isn't. If someone is just explained what a transfusion actually is, then their argument as to not get one goes away. |
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:23:00 GMT
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Post 175 of 206 Since 7/6/2006 |
Like insearchoftruth, I also have been wondering what specific medical practices would not 'be allowed'. For example, would an exchange transfusion for a new born with an "unresponding to other treatments" case of severe jaundice, be allowed? |
insearchoftruth
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:07:00 GMT
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VirginiaPost 1124 of 1564 Since 2/9/2006 |
Hoping4change, you stated the question much better than I, an example really helps! |
TD
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:18:00 GMT
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![]() ArizonaPost 1870 of 2192 Since 5/14/2001 |
Blood & Related Components/Fractions Whole blood = Forbidden Packed Red Cells = Forbidden Washed Red Cells = Forbidden Leukocyte reduded Red Cells = Forbidden Donor Leukocyte transfusion = Forbidden Plasma w/ Platelets = Forbidden Whole Plasma = Forbidden SD Plasma = ???
IgG (gamma globulin) = Allowed (Transfusion or injection) Clotting factors = Allowed Rhogam & Winrho = Allowd Polymerized hemoglobin = Allowed 5% & 10% Albumin solution = Allowed (Transfusion) Post exposure serums and antitoxins (IgG) = Allowed Interleukin solutions = Allowed Peripheral Stem Cells = Allowed Donor Bone marrow = Allowed Albumin as adjuvant or excipient = Allowed
Procedures Predonation = Forbidden Autologous Transfusion = Forbidden Heart/Lung machine = Allowed Kidney Dialysis = Allowed Hemodilutoin = Allowed Apherisis = Allowed Blood Patch = Allowed Cell Saver / Blood Salvage = Allowed Reinfusion after testing = Allowed
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:25:00 GMT
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Post 176 of 206 Since 7/6/2006 |
TD - is that list from an official WT doc (confidential or otherwise)? Any chance that they have produced/published such a document available to HLC members? |
Witness 007
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:29:00 GMT
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Post 3995 of 4699 Since 8/28/2007 |
Crazy doctrine......abstain from blood?? Hypocites! |
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:38:00 GMT
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Post 177 of 206 Since 7/6/2006 |
btt |
TD
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:37:00 GMT
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![]() ArizonaPost 1875 of 2192 Since 5/14/2001 |
The list above is based on the current DPA forms, articles in medical literature and The Watchtower I'm sure there's a comprehensive single-source list somewhere, but not being a JW, I don't have access to it. --I can give a reference though if something on this list is in question
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:12:00 GMT
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Post 246 of 527 Since 3/11/2009 |
Read your bible, and make up your own mind. While you do that, know that blood is a tissue and the body doesn't "eat it" when you get a transfusion. Moreover, Jesus condemned the Pharisees for violating their sabbath law restrictions to save property, but were pissed when someone got healed on the sabbath. JW's violate the value of Jesus shed blood by elevating a tissue above a human life. |
TD
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:44:00 GMT
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![]() ArizonaPost 1877 of 2192 Since 5/14/2001 |
...You're preaching to the choir |
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:18:00 GMT
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Post 181 of 206 Since 7/6/2006 |
Read your bible, and make up your own mind I think the point of this thread was missed with this comment. It's not a question of what the bible says or one's belief, the questions are related to trying to figure out exactly what specific procedures would be considered a 'conscience' matter and which ones would be viewed as 'prohibited' by current JW thinking. |
jwfacts
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:26:00 GMT
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![]() New South WalesPost 4671 of 4884 Since 6/25/2005 |
I don't know percentages, but a high percentage of transfusions are still not allowed under current Watchtower blood doctrine. Forbidden are
Though whole blood is rarely transfused, the major components such as red blood cells form a large portion of total transfusions. |
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Re: Blood, with fractions allowed, what 'transfusions' are prohibited
posted Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:56:00 GMT
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![]() Post 15213 of 15529 Since 11/2/2001 |
TD, I believe they also allow the storage of cord blood, for possible stem cell harvest at a later date. |



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