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Chat during dateline - unedited

    Lady Lee Chat during dateline - unedited posted Wed, 29 May 2002 01:00:00 GMT (5/29/2002) edit


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    The following is an unedited transcript of the chat room during the dateline show with my as it happens comments for those who will not get to see the show
    with permission of those in the room

    20:17:20> Lady Lee has joined the chat
    20:17:23> animal: yo
    20:17:31> xenawarrior: Hi lady lee
    20:17:34> Lady Lee: OH MY GAWD IT ON
    20:17:35> joy2bfree: this is great!
    20:17:37> animal: do tell... it aint on here for 4 hours
    20:17:44> xenawarrior: hi again joe
    20:17:49> joy2bfree: hey (((Lee))) you doing ok watching this?
    20:17:52> joenobody: I think it's been incredibly objective thus far.., the finger is gonna point at the top, not the elders
    20:17:56> Lady Lee: did you hear the tape from the legal daeapt
    20:18:06> xenawarrior: It is a really good show
    20:18:09> bluesapphire has joined the chat
    20:18:15> xenawarrior: BUSTED!!!
    20:18:16> Lady Lee: it is awesome so far
    20:18:26> joy2bfree: I agree Joe, it has been objective so far! wow
    20:18:26> joenobody: animal, they have the terminology and everything right... the people look like they were normal witness families
    20:18:29> bluesapphire: Youguys, isn't someone supposed to be webcamming this?
    20:18:32> joenobody: it's incredibly powerful
    20:18:36> Lady Lee: doing OK Joy - a little shaky inside but OK
    20:18:40> animal: cool
    20:18:42> joenobody: NBC went to the trouble of getting all the terminology correct
    20:18:43> joy2bfree: yes, Lee, that was great. but did they get their permission to air that?
    20:18:54> joy2bfree: good Lee
    20:19:02> joy2bfree: yes they did Joe
    20:19:05> joenobody: there's in NOTHING that the WTS can quibble with to this point - they have facts including letters and taped phone calls on policy!
    20:19:16> Lady Lee: don't know if they got permission but it is aired now
    20:19:22> bluesapphire: They taped what?
    20:19:28> joy2bfree: bluesapphire, dungbeetle will have it out in about 3 hours, she's got it all worked out !
    20:19:39> xenawarrior: I agree joe-it's powerful
    20:19:39> Lilacs has joined the chat
    20:19:42> joenobody: I was moved to tears listening to that Erica exasperated
    20:19:49> joy2bfree: phone conversation with the Legal department
    20:19:54> Lilacs: WTG BILL!!!
    20:19:56> joy2bfree: ((lilacs)))
    20:20:06> joenobody: I wonder what the heck witnesses must be thinking... Bill Bowen comes off very credible
    20:20:10> joenobody: gotta go for a bit
    20:20:12> xenawarrior: me too-sitting here crying for her
    20:20:16> Lady Lee: Bill called WT legal and they told him - Go ask the guy if there is any truth - if he says no walk away - don't get in the middle
    20:20:23> joy2bfree: joe, you should see Holly, she looks like that now and doesn't have her uterus because of what her stepdad did
    20:20:25> Lilacs: Anyone else crying in front of the tv besides me?
    20:20:26> bluesapphire: Oh. In three hours I'll be watching it too lol. Guess I'm just too excited.
    20:20:27> Lady Lee: no suggestion to go to the police all on tape
    20:20:27> joenobody: commercial must be almost over
    20:20:37> joenobody: yes Lilac - emotionless me started to crumble
    20:20:45> xenawarrior: "don't get yourself in a jam"
    20:20:53> joy2bfree: yes, lilacs
    20:20:56> joenobody: unreal joy
    20:21:00> joenobody: brb
    20:21:01> Lady Lee: sorry if this is spoilers to some
    20:21:08> xenawarrior: and at the beginning of the show Brown says "we would "NEVER" tell someone not to go to the police"
    20:21:16> Lady Lee: (((lilacs)))
    20:21:18> bluesapphire: I'm crying and I'm not even watching.
    20:21:27> joy2bfree: yeah, we need to have a warning that we'd be talking about it
    20:21:31> Lady Lee: back on
    20:21:32> Lilacs: xena, the WT will say it wasn't them on the phone
    20:21:37> xenawarrior: back on
    20:21:43> Lilacs: brb its back on
    20:21:45> xenawarrior: of course it wasn't
    20:21:57> xenawarrior: they suck!!!
    20:22:00> joy2bfree: bbl
    20:22:09> Lady Lee: do you want a blow by blow or wait
    20:22:26> bluesapphire: I'll take it now thank you.
    20:22:49> animal: I will take a blow
    20:22:57> Lady Lee: erika went to court - full of JW but not to support her
    20:23:03> xenawarrior: lol @animal!
    20:23:04> animal: and the story too
    20:23:14> worldly girl has left the chat
    20:23:21> bluesapphire: I think she meant the show -- lol @ animal
    20:23:25> Lady Lee: elders say clerical privilege
    20:23:39> Lady Lee: bad animal bad
    20:23:42> puffsrule has joined the chat
    20:23:49> Lilacs: talking abouyt beliez now
    20:23:59> xenawarrior: hi puffs
    20:24:07> puffsrule: HI All! I hate them....they are scum!!! Dateline is kicking ass!
    20:24:24> bluesapphire: So it's looking good then?
    20:24:25> Lady Lee: erika perp convicted but a couple of years later overturned - then he was released now in KH still going dor to door
    20:24:38> Lilacs: God I feel for her
    20:24:39> bluesapphire: awesome!
    20:24:40> puffsrule: They are showing him going door to door after his conviction!!
    20:24:53> bluesapphire: Not that he was convicted but that they're talking about it for all to know.
    20:24:59> bluesapphire: OMG
    20:25:02> xenawarrior: They declined our request for an on camera interview
    20:25:03> Lady Lee: WT declined oncamera interview
    20:25:10> bluesapphire: Bad news for the dubs going door to door from now on.
    20:25:19> puffsrule: They have a tape of Bill Bowen speaking to Brooklyn and them telling him to not talk to a molester...ignore it
    20:25:30> Lady Lee: JW say abuse is evel mags teach to help victims step taken to protect
    20:25:35> bluesapphire: Yeah, but they are telling the congregation elders that Dateline refused to interview them.
    20:25:43> Lady Lee: repenters are allowed back in
    20:25:49> puffsrule: They are liars...I hope all the news channels pick this up
    20:25:56> Lady Lee: states with law will report otherwise NO
    20:26:08> puffsrule: JR sounds like an idiot
    20:26:12> Lady Lee: but not discourage - up to parents never say don't report
    20:26:12> xenawarrior: we certainly NEVER tell them NOT to report
    20:26:50> Lady Lee: why does church not call police and investigate themselves
    20:26:56> puffsrule: Why are they not turning over these people to the police...
    20:27:06> Lilacs: aha only two cases where they turned in molesters and they were non witnesses
    20:27:11> Lady Lee: 2 cases JW victims and abusers were not
    20:27:19> joy2bfree: .
    20:27:26> xenawarrior: WOW
    20:27:30> bluesapphire: lol, yeah double standard for non dubs
    20:27:34> Lady Lee: only one case Pandello confessed he molested grand- d f
    20:27:55> Lady Lee: family said church pressured him to confess to lesser chagre and let it go
    20:28:02> Lady Lee: not Jeh time to deal with it
    20:28:21> bluesapphire: bull crap
    20:28:24> Lady Lee: Pandello DFed 2 times but let back in now in good standing
    20:28:43> bluesapphire: going door to door I presume
    20:28:47> Lady Lee: he is sexual predator he craves young girls at the doors
    20:28:53> xenawarrior: and out in SERVICE
    20:28:56> puffsrule: Pandelo is a scum...they taped him going door to door...sorry forgot I was online
    20:28:59> xenawarrior: makes me sick!
    20:29:12> bluesapphire: did they say that Lee?
    20:29:22> Lady Lee: erika still not willing to stop her court case
    20:29:32> puffsrule: He confessed to molesting girls his whole life
    20:29:33> Marilyn has joined the chat
    20:29:34> Lady Lee: now not alone Boewen supportin gher
    20:29:38> xenawarrior: I have goosebumps
    20:29:38> bluesapphire: good for her.
    20:29:39> Lady Lee: silentlambs
    20:29:52> bluesapphire: hi marilyn
    20:29:53> Lady Lee: more than 20 poeple went to support her from all over
    20:30:04> puffsrule: They said earlier that these confessions are secret...like a priest...then they should be sued like the priests
    20:30:26> bluesapphire: Except they tell their wives lol
    20:30:29> Lady Lee: he denied molest but said he touched he he found guilty erika feels supported
    20:30:37> FRUSR8TD has joined the chat
    20:30:39> Marilyn: Hi guys, its so annoying that we don't get to see the program in Australia
    20:30:41> Lady Lee: he is in prison 11 and half years
    20:30:43> xenawarrior: Hi Frus!!
    20:30:47> FRUSR8TD: hey XW
    20:30:50> Lady Lee: now erika was change in policy
    20:30:59> FRUSR8TD: she agreed to watch with me
    20:31:00> puffsrule: Erica came off really well
    20:31:09> Lady Lee: some are thinking of sueing wt
    20:31:11> bluesapphire: Marilyn, Dungbeetle will have it on the web in three hours they say.
    20:31:14> FRUSR8TD:
    20:31:17> xenawarrior: WOW
    20:31:18> Lilacs: thats only because they go in twos
    20:31:29> Lady Lee: wt says pedophiles can go door to door with someone
    20:31:32> Marilyn: Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
    20:31:37> xenawarrior: OMG-that was awesome
    20:31:45> joenobody: :0
    20:31:47> Mimilly has joined the chat
    20:31:47> joy2bfree: wow, that was good
    20:31:47> joenobody: :o
    20:31:49> Lady Lee: end says Anderson Pandello and Bowen pending DFing
    20:31:49> Mimilly: mg
    20:31:50> Mimilly: omg
    20:31:50> Lilacs: I wish there was more
    20:31:51> joenobody: wow!!
    20:31:51> bluesapphire: Too bad Pandelo wasn't alone at a door.
    20:31:55> Mimilly: i cried so hard
    20:31:56> xenawarrior: It's very very very good-very well done
    20:31:58> joy2bfree: (((mimilly)))))
    20:32:00> puffsrule: I am soooooo happy this came out...I have to call my mother
    20:32:05> FRUSR8TD: just thought I would drop in and let ya know
    20:32:09> xenawarrior: Hi Mim
    20:32:14> StinkyPantz has joined the chat
    20:32:16> Mimilly: it was well done
    20:32:21> xenawarrior: how's your head feeling today Mim??
    20:32:24> joenobody: I hope JWs watching that realize Bowen, Anderson etc are still members and haven't been DFed... yet
    20:32:26> StinkyPantz: so'd everybody watch dateline?
    20:32:29> bluesapphire: good frust. We're glad she watched it.
    20:32:31> Lilacs: dung is putting the show on the web?
    20:32:36> Mimilly: those lying fucking bastards in NYC
    20:32:41> Lady Lee: wow need to reat my fingers
    20:32:46> joy2bfree: joe, barb has been, bill hasn't yet
    20:32:46> bluesapphire: Actually, that was at the time of airing.
    20:32:51> Lilacs: I saw ir
    20:32:56> xenawarrior: YIPPPEEEEEE FRUS!!!
    20:32:58> joy2bfree: yes lilacs
    20:32:59> Marilyn: Excellent. 3 hours time yeah?
    20:33:11> joenobody: I think they made it very clear that the WTS was blaming local elders and was shirking any responsibility
    20:33:12> bluesapphire: Wonder what the GB are doing about now.
    20:33:17> joy2bfree: Lee you did a good job, I couldn't comment but keep watching you type
    20:33:23> bluesapphire: Maybe someone had a heart attack or something.
    20:33:26> pierced angel has joined the chat
    20:33:33> StinkyPantz: shaking in there boots
    20:33:45> bluesapphire: pierced.
    20:33:49> joy2bfree: good point Joe, watch the wtbt shrink back from responsibility
    20:33:49> peaceloveharmony has joined the chat
    20:33:54> joenobody: JR Brown can't do an interview and has to put out a policy tape? puh...lease JR... afraid of the tough questions?
    20:33:55> Marilyn: Yeah but Jehovah appoints the local elders doesn't he???????????????
    20:33:55> FRUSR8TD: hey...I just looked at my digital cable guide and it says 10:00 for me
    20:34:04> FRUSR8TD: Im on the west coast
    20:34:05> Lydia has joined the chat
    20:34:07> Lilacs: hi mony
    20:34:07> joenobody: blue: the GB already had the warm milk and went to bed
    20:34:09> bluesapphire: hi plh
    20:34:09> pierced angel: hi everyone, crying, laughing and shaking after that show
    20:34:10> peaceloveharmony: hi guys
    20:34:10> Lilacs: what did you think?
    20:34:11> Lady Lee: I haven't got a clue what you all were saying so will read it later
    20:34:17> Lydia: Hello all..
    20:34:21> budgurl has joined the chat
    20:34:25> Lydia: I taped it..
    20:34:26> Cowboy has joined the chat
    20:34:27> xenawarrior: hi stinky and peace and lydia
    20:34:30> joenobody: once again, much more powerful than I ever could have expected
    20:34:33> peaceloveharmony: me too angel
    20:34:40> budgurl: hello everyone
    20:34:41> StinkyPantz: hi xena
    20:34:45> Mimilly: jr brown should die a painful and very slow death
    20:34:45> joy2bfree: Thank you Lee, you did a nice job
    20:34:45> Cowboy: ((((((((((room))))))))))
    20:34:45> puffsrule: I think my mother is afraid to speak to me...
    20:34:45> peaceloveharmony: hey lydia, budgurl and cowboy
    20:34:50> joy2bfree: hey eveyone that has come in
    20:34:53> Lilacs: blue, you weren't able to see it on tv?
    20:34:54> mindfield has joined the chat
    20:34:54> Mimilly: he's lucky i'm not anywhere near him
    20:34:58> joenobody: we're gonna get everyone out here tonight , aren't we?
    20:35:01> mindfield: boy, Dateline was GREAT
    20:35:03> peaceloveharmony: hi mindfield
    20:35:05> mindfield: oh, hello everyone
    20:35:06> Lydia: Boy Was that POWERFUL
    20:35:07> animal: is it over?
    20:35:08> puffsrule: I just got my mom, she and her lifelong JW best friend watched....they are in shock and happy it is coming out
    20:35:09> peaceloveharmony: yup i thought is was great too!
    20:35:10> joy2bfree: NJ, yes they did
    20:35:16> Mimilly: i'm so glad they did a great job
    20:35:17> bluesapphire: I'm in california
    20:35:17> xenawarrior: Hi CB & Nacy J
    20:35:17> pierced angel: they kept it real, they kept the facts straight, thank god
    20:35:25> megadude has joined the chat
    20:35:27> joenobody: what I appreciated is these people looked to any other witnesses like regular witness - both the victims and the accused!
    20:35:31> puffsrule: It is over
    20:35:32> mindfield: man... seeing the insides of the KH was powerful
    20:35:34> Marilyn: that jr brown lies. He recently said on a radio interview that they don't encourage people not to vote.
    20:35:36> peaceloveharmony: hey jerry
    20:35:36> mindfield: hi mega
    20:35:40> StinkyPantz: i wanna ask my parents if they watched it but i'm scared to
    20:35:42> LLHJ has joined the chat
    20:35:43> Lydia: Yes - a very good pice
    20:35:45> joenobody: anyone else have the window on the right going nuts?
    20:35:45> lauralisa has joined the chat
    20:35:46> megadude: Well, I had to admit, I was fairly impressed by the Dateline show
    20:35:47> peaceloveharmony: lol nancy, i agree!
    20:35:50> Naeblis has joined the chat
    20:35:53> puffsrule: I better go...i need to see my husband...he now believes they are scum
    20:35:55> joy2bfree: true PA, they did a very good job of it

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    Lady Lee Re: Chat during dateline - unedited posted Wed, 29 May 2002 01:25:00 GMT (5/29/2002) edit


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    NewLight2 Re: Chat during dateline - unedited posted Wed, 29 May 2002 01:29:00 GMT (5/29/2002) edit

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    Great job. Lady Lee! Thanks for posting this.

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    Lady Lee Re: Chat during dateline - unedited posted Wed, 29 May 2002 01:48:00 GMT (5/29/2002) edit


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    Lady Lee Re: Chat during dateline - unedited posted Wed, 29 May 2002 02:24:00 GMT (5/29/2002) edit


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    Lady Lee Re: Chat during dateline - unedited posted Wed, 29 May 2002 03:00:00 GMT (5/29/2002) edit


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