The perfect storm...time to exit the JW's

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    Giordano posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:01:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    Is this the perfect time to tell family that are still in that you are so upset/devastated/embarassed over the Candace Conti revelations and trial and what happened to her as a 9 year old witness that you need to step away from field service and the meetings and do a lot of private praying. You've been stumbled badly and don't know what to think at this time.

    M leavingwt posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:02:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    There is no such thing as a good time.

    For, where else could you go?

    All other religions are false.

    M heathen posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:06:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    Jesus did say . where ever 2 or 3 are gathered in my name I will be . Never said anything about a book publishing corporation.

    Giordano posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:09:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    I'll cheerfully disagree Leaving........if you've been stumbled your stumbled. This wouldn't be the first time the JW's have taken a hit after 1975 for instance and of course present day with 67% of born-ins (USA) no longer affiliated. What are they going to do to you if you are deeply wounded? Just drift out the door.

    00DAD posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:11:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    Giordano, I think LWT was being ironic.

    In fact, it's ALWAYS a good time to exit JWs.

    M leavingwt posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:12:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    What are they going to do to you if you are deeply wounded? Just drift out the door.

    I see what you're saying.

    It's true that if you never reveal that you no longer believe, you can stay off of their radar, to some extent. This will probably involve either lying or refusing to answer pointed questions. However, you must also avoid engaging in public activities that run contrary to their dogma.

    M leavingwt posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:14:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    Like 00DAD said, TODAY is the best day to leave. So is tomorrow. Get buy living or get busy dying.

    Guess what? I truly believe that most people have what it takes to make a clean break and find contentment and happiness on the other side.

    Think About It posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:15:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    Let the mass exits and fadings begin!!! The perfect storm.

    Think About It

    Think About It posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:15:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    The curse of Sparlock is upon the WTS. You don't just throw a warrior wizard into the trash bin without negative karma biting you in the ass.

    Think About It

    00DAD posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:23:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    LWT: you must also avoid engaging in public activities that run contrary to their dogma.

    What if my karma runs over their dogma?

    Giordano posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:40:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    Your Karma has already run over their dogma. Your beating them half to death with your generosity and kindness. Never have I seen more persecution coming from one person....LOL

    00DAD posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:52:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    Giordano: Your beating them half to death with your generosity and kindness. Never have I seen more persecution coming from one person....LOL

    I'm only 1/2 way done ... got more work to do!

    Kojack57 posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 23:08:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    I will say this, the case where the Monsignor was found guilty of hiding and shuffling priest around to different parishes was found guilty of that, and now can face 3-1/2 to 7 years in prison. In fact his bail was refused and he is sitting in a cell now.

    If I was one of those elders in California I would be sweating bricks knowing that the court system may throw their sorry asses in jail for hiding Pediophiles in the supposedly Christian congregation.

    It would behoove any elder that is active as a Jehovah's witness to get the HELL out now. Otherwise when the hammer comes down the G.B. will not show any sympathy and you will deserve what you get.

    Kojack

    M Black Sheep posted Fri, 22 Jun 2012 23:28:00 GMT(6/22/2012)

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    Don't use your feelings as the excuse. Use the actions of the Watchtower. Make defending members explain the factual actions of the Watchtower, and don't let them weasel their way out by diverting the subject to your feelings.

    extractor posted Sat, 23 Jun 2012 03:05:00 GMT(6/23/2012)

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    With the WT it's not just dogma, it's dogmanuer.

    The Oracle posted Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:55:00 GMT(7/29/2012)

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    It is a great catalyst that is being used by many to either go inactive or begin the fade.

    It's an "honorable" way to take a step back even in the minds of many cult members. I just love the uncomfortable message it sends to the congregation.

    How can you really blame someone for listening to their god given conscience.

    If you a current JW, give this approach a try.

    The Oracle

    whathappened posted Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:17:00 GMT(7/29/2012)

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    Sounds good to me. I will add this to my list.

    whathappened posted Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:17:00 GMT(7/29/2012)

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    Sounds good to me. I will add this to my list.

    M Billy the Ex-Bethelite posted Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:03:00 GMT(7/29/2012)

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    Technically, I think the best time to exit the JWs would be after letting lose a substantial SBD fart during the meeting. If you're not sure whether it's actually going to be silent, I would suggest dropping a book at the appropriate moment to try to conceal the release of your own "perfect storm". Then gather up your books and walk out of the KH, never to return. Everyone else can remain inside their windowless "spiritual paradise".

    King Solomon posted Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:22:00 GMT(7/29/2012)

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    Kojack said:

    "It would behoove any elder that is active as a Jehovah's witness to get the HELL out now. Otherwise when the hammer comes down the G.B. will not show any sympathy and you will deserve what you get."

    Statute of limitations on a crime doesnt care if you're in or out: they can run, but they can't hide...

    But you do have a point of not being involved in a future criminal conspiracy, just because being an elder provides some ego-gratification now...

    Btw, if there were a child molester case being dealt with, elders should consider that one of the other elders MAY become an informant for the State, in order to do a bit of house-cleaning. Shame if elders meetings had to start with elders strip-searching each other, to look for wires/bugs/spy cams, etc.

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