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Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs

    AndersonsInfo Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Fri, 08 Jul 2011 19:37:00 GMT (7/8/2011) edit


    United States Tennessee

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    Since 4/22/2005

    Preview: http://abcnews.go.com/US/jaycee_dugard 

    Diane interviews Jaycee. Chris Como tracks the police investigation.

    Authorites called at Garrido home 60 times and didn't find Jaycee in back yard.

    straightshooter Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Fri, 08 Jul 2011 19:48:00 GMT (7/8/2011) edit




    Post 1172 of 1487
    Since 6/30/2009

    This should be an interesting interview.  What happened to her was a very sick/sad situation.

     

    flipper Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Fri, 08 Jul 2011 22:31:00 GMT (7/8/2011) edit


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      Anybody that is able to watch this should watch this Sunday night. I wish I didn't have to work Sunday night. I'll have to catch it on you-tube or something. My wife will be home to see it. I watched the preview on the link you sent barbara - and I had tears streaming out of my eyes observing Jaycees mother talking about how she felt rushed for work the morning she sent Jaycee off to school that morning without a kiss - and she carried that " guilt " for 18 years. The interchange of communication and emotion between Jaycee and her mother is priceless to observe. Wow, just wow.

      The hell this family went through in this ordeal is unfathomable. Thanks so much for posting this Barbara .  I'm definitely buying Jaycees book when it's released next week. The lessons of how mind control tactics were used to keep her prisoner should come in very handy for those of us trying to understand or help free Jehovah's Witnesses from a dangerous cult. Jaycees situation was certainly more life threatening and abusive in the literal sense - however similar controlling tactics are used by mind control cults to imprison minds as well. Veiled threats, etc.

      Watching your link has motivated me to bump up my thread with the link about the Garrido's former JW connections and how it explains the involvement of mind control in their abduction of Jaycee. Thanks again , this is as important as any WT society expose's we've had as it really shows the danger of controlling outlaws in our society. Peace out, Mr. Flipper 

    flipper Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Sat, 09 Jul 2011 16:41:00 GMT (7/9/2011) edit


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      BTTT, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

    willyloman Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Sat, 09 Jul 2011 17:13:00 GMT (7/9/2011) edit


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    For those who don't know about the Garridos' JW connection, she was a dub who started a study with him while he was in prison on rape charges. His newfound "status" as a JW was cited by the judge as one reason to grant parole. Whether he actually ever got baptized is not clear but he attended some meetings for a time, just long enough to decide he could do better on his own and he formed his own twisted religious ideas and began proseltyzing. These ideas involved his ability to speak with "God" and led him to claim invention of a machine that facilitated this practice.

    He was caught, nearly 19 years after kidnapping Jaycee (who was 11 at the time), raping her and fathering two kids with her. It happened after he aroused the suspicion of two campus security guards when took the young children with him to the Berkeley campus of UC to proselytize passersby and distribute his own printed materials (one thing he learned from his Watchtower association).  It has not, to my knowledge, been reported that Mrs. Garrido was ever df'd or sanctioned by her own congo.

    There is another thread (or several) on this forum with more info and you can Google Jaycee Dugard and get a lot more.  Most news accounts, however, omit the dub connection. I'm sure there are dubs in the Livermore, CA area who know the story but you can be sure they don't use the "experience" at the door.

    p.s. It will be interesting to see if Diane Sawyer mentions JWs in her two hour interview on Sunday.

    skeeter1 Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:01:00 GMT (7/10/2011) edit


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    Bump-it-t-bump-bump

    Skeeter

    Band on the Run Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:26:00 GMT (7/10/2011) edit




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    Since 12/18/2010

    This case and one in Germany were so over the top. NO crime writer would write something so bad. It is a coup for Dane Sawyer. I think I have problems rehabing and living a normal life. I'm so curious to see how she deals with it. The children truly complicate the siutation. If I think about it, it would stop any personal pity party.

    I feel his wife is every bit as morally wrong as he was.

    purplesofa Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:22:00 GMT (7/11/2011) edit


    United States Arkansas

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    Since 2/19/2005

    watching this now and following on twitter.  

    They did mention that Nancy was a Jehovahs Witness.

    skeeter1 Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:23:00 GMT (7/11/2011) edit


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    Wow, Diane Sawyer brought out about Nancy & Phillip being Jehovah's Witnesses and Nancy growing up as a JW!  Then, Jaycee says that Nancy is super twisted, just as bad as Phillip.  it goes on about his crazy religious beliefs and the campus police officers saying that Phillip was 'way out there' on the religion stuff.   DAMAGE.   

    Skeeter

    purplesofa Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:31:00 GMT (7/11/2011) edit


    United States Arkansas

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    This is a very good interview.  Jaycee is an amazing woman!!

    Berengaria Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:33:00 GMT (7/11/2011) edit




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    Purps!!  We don't see enough of you!

    purplesofa Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:34:00 GMT (7/11/2011) edit


    United States Arkansas

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    Since 2/19/2005

    I am tweeting about the JW stuff re: Garrido.  This part is a whole story in itself.  The system failed her on every level.

    watson Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:57:00 GMT (7/11/2011) edit


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    Yes, we want to see more of you Purps.

    Free!! Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Mon, 11 Jul 2011 03:09:00 GMT (7/11/2011) edit




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    Since 6/8/2011

    I was watching the special until about 3 minutes ago... to see how perverted and twisted the minds of the Garrido's are is just shocking!! 

    This man manipulated Nancy Garrido to the extent she would go to the park with him to take video of little kids to satisfy his urges!!! GROSSS....  one thing that kept coming to my mind was that after all, as a dub her life was so deprived and all of her natural sexual desires were repressed, is not hard for someone completly repressed and afraid of life to fall for someone like Garrido... I am not excusing her at all, she deserves each one of the 34+ years she got and a little more, but a spring comes to mind, someone (the borg) holds it (the spring) so tight in its hand than when its released (to the real world) it flies all over the place... hence, all of this rapist, child molesters, druggies who are ex JW-dubs..... 

    What do u think?

    purplesofa Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Mon, 11 Jul 2011 03:35:00 GMT (7/11/2011) edit


    United States Arkansas

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    There are so many issues with Jaycees story, its unbelievable, I am in awe at her inner peace. I have sparked the interest of an old JW friend asking about the JW connection.  I have always been highly concerned about Nancy preaching in prison and any woman going to a prison to preach.  I understand initially she was with her Uncle, but I want to know more.  How did this go on, how was it supervised.  Did the congregation know?  What was there part?   Hi Watson and Berengia ;) Will try to pop in more, thanks.

    Violia Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Mon, 11 Jul 2011 03:37:00 GMT (7/11/2011) edit




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    Since 4/11/2009

    I've seen her on TV and she looks like she is mainlining Valium.  Perhaps PTSD or dissociative disorder?  There  is no way she is OK after what she went through. A person can appear to function but be lost in time somewhere after these sort of things. 

    Timothy Riches Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Mon, 11 Jul 2011 03:43:00 GMT (7/11/2011) edit




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    I'm VERY pleased she brought up the JW connection! The JWs have always preyed upon those who are desparate, and sought out prisons as perfect recruitment zones. This isn't the first time that a JW has stood up for someone in the dock, despite heinous crimes as many well know. They have such a naive sense of what YHWH can do in the life of a person, and consider repentance to be genuine without exception. Gullible doesn't begin to describe it! How much more so are they blind to those within their ranks who are accused by less than 2 witnesses? Their confidence in the ability of YHWH to keep the congregations clean makes them a deviant's paradise indeed!

    Jim_TX Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:36:00 GMT (7/11/2011) edit


    United States Texas

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    Since 5/12/2002

    I think that the JW connection was made very well.

    I hope that these two (Garrido's) rot in jail.

     

    Regards,

    Jim TX

    willyloman Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:17:00 GMT (7/11/2011) edit


    United States California

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    Since 6/19/2003

    I had wondered (see earlier post, above, prior to interview) if DS would bring up the dub connection. And she did, briefly. After the interview was over, we were talking about how much detail was left out on purpose and how many on were repeated multiple times. You could condense the unduplicated transcript of Jaycee's words in these two hours down to about 20 minutes.

    Still, those few minutes were riveting and you can't blame ABC for stetching this to two hours to sell more commercials. They were under certain limits in terms of the agreement they made about what they could ask her.

    I was left wondering about her two daughters, who were 11 and 15 when they were rescued, which means they were both the same age or older than Jaycee was when she was kidnapped by this maniac. One of the people watching tv with us suggested they may have their own stories to tell but whether they will ever tell them won't be known until after they are of legal age.

    It was also interesting that the stepfather (the couple since divorced) was virtually unmentioned in the piece. He was also a victim, and was considered a suspect by police for many years after the event, although he was never charged. In a print interview after Jaycee was freed in 2009, he said the cops never informed him that he was no longer a suspect so he spent all those years in limbo. One of our fellow viewers wondered if he shared in any of the $20 million settlement the family got from the State of California to settle a lawsuit over their inept behavior in failing to supervise Garrido.

    The last 30 minutes was devoted to Chris Cuomo's "investigation" of that inept behavior, but his report was merely a rehash of old news and not that well delivered by the rookie journalist. It appeared that Jaycee's mom is orchestrating another lawsuit, this time against the Feds, perhaps thinking (or having been advised by lawyers) that there might be a potential settlement from them as well) Not that I blame her; no amount of money could pay for what they went through, so no one could judge this family for pursuing compensation if the money's out there.

    Back to the dub connection: I was struck by the fact that Diane S mentioned JWs, even though she didn't follow up on that (or at least they didn't air any follow up). I don't know who wrote the script and have no idea how much input DS had on that, but the fact that they included this connection in a report that was carefully edited regarding details about the crime suggests someone thought it was pertinent. Perhaps this link will be explored in future news reports.

    Mad Sweeney Re: Diane Sawyer interviews Jaycee Dugard 7/10/11, ABC 2-hr. Special, 9PM EST: Jaycee was kidnapped by Garridos, supposedly one-time JWs posted Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:44:00 GMT (7/11/2011) edit




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    I'm glad it was mentioned.

    It may not wake up any active JWs because they're programmed to disbelieve any media that makes the Borg look bad, but if it prevents some people from listening to their lunacy at the door or in the workplace, we can be glad she mentioned it.

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