JESUS CHRIST - ALPHA AND OMEGA

JESUS CHRIST -- IS HE THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA, THE FIRST AND THE LAST, AND THE BEGINNING AND THE END, THE SUPREME BEING?

My purpose in Posting all of these Scriptures is to get everyone's opinions and beliefs on these Scriptures. I will be adding my comments on them soon.

My goal is to learn more about The Father and The Son.

I know that believing in the Trinity is I believe, NOT a requirement for Salvation, however, I believe that believing that Jesus is the Messiah and the Son of God and our Mediator AND believing in Jesus Christ's Sacrifice is the requirement for Salvation, here is an example:

Luke 23:39: And one of the hanged criminals blasphemed Him, saying, If You are the Christ, save Yourself and us.
Luke 23:40: But answering, the other (criminal) rebuked him, saying, Do you not fear God, for you are in the same judgment?
Luke 23:41: And we indeed justly, for we receive things worthy of what we did. But this One did nothing wrong.
Luke 23:42: And he said to Jesus, Lord, remember me when You come in Your Kingdom.
Luke 23:43: And Jesus said to him, Truly I say to you, Today you will be with Me in Paradise.

I doubt that the criminal had real good knowledge of the Trinity.

All Bible Scriptures below are from the "Literal Translation of the Holy Bible":

ALPHA AND OMEGA SCRIPTURES:

Revelation 1:7: "Behold, He comes with the clouds," and "every eye will see Him, and the ones who pierced" Him, and all the tribes of the Earth "will wail on account of Him." Yes, Amen. (See Daniel 7:13; Zechariah 12:10)
Revelation 1:8: I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, says the Lord, the One who is, and who was, and who is coming, the Almighty.

Revelation 1:10: I came to be in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and I heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
Revelation 1:11: saying, I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last; also, What you see, write in a scroll, and send to the seven assemblies of Asia: to Ephesus, and to Smyrna, and to Pergamos, and to Thyatira, and to Sardis, and to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.
Revelation 1:12: And I turned to see the voice which spoke with me.
Revelation 1:13: And having turned, I saw seven golden lampstands, and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, having been clothed to the feet, and having been girded with a golden girdle at the breasts.

Revelation 1:17: And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet, as dead. And He put His right hand on me, saying to me, Do not fear. I am the First and the Last,
Revelation 1:18: and the Living One; and I became dead; and, behold, I am living forever and ever. Amen. And I have the keys to Hell, and of death.

Revelation 21:5: And the One sitting on the throne said, Behold! I make all things new. And He says to me, Write, because these Words are faithful and true.
Revelation 21:6: And He said to me, It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the Ending. To the one thirsting, I will freely give of the fountain of the Water of Life.
Revelation 21:7: The one overcoming will inherit all things, and I will be God to him, and he will be the son to Me.

Revelation 22:12: And, behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to each as his work is.
Revelation 22:13: I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, the First and the Last.

Revelation 22:16: I, Jesus, sent My angel to testify these things to you over the assemblies. I am the Root and Offspring of David, the bright and morning Star.

Revelation 22:20: The One testifying these things says, Yes, I am coming quickly. Amen. Yes, come, Lord Jesus!

I think it is obvious that Jesus Christ is THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA, despite whatever the Watchtower says about it currently (they have back and forth on this also).

Edited by - UnDisfellowshipped on 5 September 2002 9:43:26

THE FIRST AND THE LAST SCRIPTURES:

Isaiah 41:4: Who has planned and done it, calling forth the generations from the beginning? I Jehovah am the First and the Last; I am He.

Isaiah 44:6: So says Jehovah, the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, Jehovah of Hosts: I am the First, and I am the Last; and there is no God except Me.

Isaiah 48:12: Listen to Me, O Jacob, and Israel My called: I am He; I am the First; surely I am the Last.

Revelation 1:11: saying, I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last; also, What you see, write in a scroll, and send to the seven assemblies of Asia: to Ephesus, and to Smyrna, and to Pergamos, and to Thyatira, and to Sardis, and to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.

Revelation 1:17: And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet, as dead. And He put His right hand on me, saying to me, Do not fear. I am the First and the Last,
Revelation 1:18: and the Living One; and I became dead; and, behold, I am living forever and ever. Amen. And I have the keys to hell, and of death.

Revelation 2:8: And to the angel of the assembly of Smyrna, write: These things says the First and the Last, Who became dead, and lived

Revelation 22:13: I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, the First and the Last.

KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS SCRIPTURES:

Deuteronomy 10:17: For Jehovah your God, He is the God of gods, and the Lord of lords; the great, the mighty, the fearful God who does not lift up faces, nor take a bribe.

Psalms 136:1: O give thanks to Jehovah, for He is good; for His mercy endures forever.
Psalms 136:2: O give thanks to the God of gods; for His mercy endures forever.
Psalms 136:3: O give thanks to the Lord of lords; for His mercy endures forever;

1st Timothy 6:14: that you keep the Commandment spotless, blameless, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,
1st Timothy 6:15: who in His own time will reveal the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
1st Timothy 6:16: the only One having immortality, living in light that cannot be approached, whom no one of men saw, nor can see; to whom be honor and everlasting might. Amen.

Revelation 17:14: These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and the ones with Him are the called and elect and faithful ones.

Revelation 19:16: And He has on His garment and on His thigh a name having been written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

Leolaia

Yes, I too hate it when the Society constantly belittles and downgrades Christ Jesus our Lord -- and they TWIST and PERVERT Scriptures around and add words to them too to support their opinions!

BELOW ARE SCRIPTURES THAT WERE PROPHECIES ABOUT JEHOVAH THE SUPREME BEING, ALMIGHTY GOD, AND YET, THEY WERE FULFILLED BY JESUS CHRIST:

Zechariah 12:8: In that day Jehovah shall protect around those living in Jerusalem. And it will be, he who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of Jehovah before them.
Zechariah 12:9: And it shall be in that day, I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Zechariah 12:10: And I will pour on the house of David, and on those living in Jerusalem, the Spirit of Grace and of Prayers. And they shall look on Me whom they have pierced; and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they shall be bitter over Him, like the bitterness over the first-born.
Zechariah 12:11: In that day the mourning in Jerusalem shall be great, like the mourning of Hadad-rimmon in the Valley of Megiddo.

John 19:33: But on coming to Jesus, when they saw He was dead already, they did not break His legs.
John 19:34: But one of the soldiers pierced His side with a lance, and at once Blood and Water came out.
John 19:35: And the one seeing has borne witness and his witness is true; and that one knows that he speaks truly, that you may believe.
John 19:36: For these things happened that the Scripture might be fulfilled, "Not a bone of Him shall be broken." (See Exodus 12:46 and Psalm 34:20)
John 19:37: And again, a different Scripture says, "They shall look at Him whom they have pierced." (See Zechariah 12:10)
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Zechariah 11:12: And I said to them, If it is good in your eyes, give My price; and if not, let it go. And they weighed My price, thirty pieces of silver.
Zechariah 11:13: And Jehovah said to Me, Throw it to the potter, the magnificent price at which I was valued by them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw it to the potter in the House of Jehovah.

Matthew 26:14: Then one of the Twelve going to the Chief Priests, the one called Judas Iscariot,
Matthew 26:1: said, What will you give to me, and I will deliver Him up to you? "And they weighed to him thirty silver pieces." (See Zechariah 11:12)
Matthew 26:1: And from then he sought opportunity that he might betray Him.

Matthew 27:3: Then Judas, the one betraying Him, seeing that He was condemned, repenting, returned the thirty pieces of silver to the Chief Priests and the Elders,
Matthew 27:4: saying, I sinned, betraying innocent Blood. But they said, What is it to us? You see to it.
Matthew 27:5: And tossing the silver pieces into the Temple, he left. And going away he hanged himself.
Matthew 27:6: And taking the pieces of silver, the Chief Priests said, It is not lawful to put them into the treasury, since it is the price of Blood.
Matthew 27:7: And taking counsel, they bought of them the potter's field, for burial for the strangers.
Matthew 27:8: So that field was called Field of Blood until today.
Matthew 27:9: Then was fulfilled that spoken through Jeremiah the Prophet, saying, And I took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of Him who had been priced, on whom they of the sons of Israel set a price,
Matthew 27:10: and gave them for the potter's field, as the Lord directed me. (See Zechariah 11:12 and 13)

Acts 1:18: Indeed, then, this one bought a field out of the reward of unrighteousness; and falling headlong, he burst in the middle, and poured out all his bowels.
Acts 1:19: And it became known to all those living in Jerusalem, so as that field to be called in their own dialect, Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.
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Isaiah 40:3: The voice of him who cries in the wilderness: Prepare the way of Jehovah; make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
Isaiah 40:4: Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low; and the knoll shall be a level place, and the rough places a plain.
Isaiah 40:5: And the Glory of Jehovah shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together, for the mouth of Jehovah has spoken.
Isaiah 40:6: A voice said, Cry! And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all its grace as the flower of the field!
Isaiah 40:7: The grass withers, the flower fades because the Spirit of Jehovah blows on it. Surely the people is grass.
Isaiah 40:8: The grass withers; the flower fades; but the Word of our God shall rise forever.

Matthew 3:1: Now in those days John the Baptist came preaching in the deserted places of Judea,
Matthew 3:2: and saying, Repent! For the Kingdom of Heaven has drawn near.
Matthew 3:3: For this is he spoken of by Isaiah the Prophet, saying: "The voice of one crying in the wilderness: Prepare the way of the Lord! Make His paths straight!" (See Isaiah 40:3)
Matthew 3:4: And John himself had his clothing from hairs of a camel, and a belt of leather about his loin. And his food was locusts and wild honey.
Matthew 3:5: Then Jerusalem and all Judea went out to him, and all the neighborhood of the Jordan,
Matthew 3:6: and were baptized by him in the Jordan, confessing their sins.
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Malachi 3:1: Behold, I am sending My messenger, and He will clear the way before Me. And the Lord whom you are seeking shall suddenly come to His Temple, even the Angel of the Covenant, in whom you delight. Behold, He comes, says Jehovah of Hosts.

Mark 1:2: as it has been written in the Prophets, "Behold, I send My messenger before Your face, who will prepare Your way before You;
Mark 1:3: the voice of one crying in the wilderness. Prepare the way of the Lord, make His paths straight." (See Malachi 3:1 and Isaiah 40:3)

Luke 2:27: And by the Spirit he came into the Temple. And as the parents were bringing in the Child Jesus for them to do according to the Custom of the Law concerning Him,
Luke 2:28: even Simeon received Him into his arms. And he blessed God and said,
Luke 2:29: Now, Master, You will let Your slave go in peace according to Your Word;
Luke 2:30: because my eyes saw Your Salvation,
Luke 2:31: which You prepared before the face of all the peoples;
Luke 2:32: a Light for revelation to the nations, and the Glory of Your people Israel.
Luke 2:33: And Joseph was marveling, also His mother, at the things being said concerning Him.
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Isaiah 45:21: Declare and bring near; yes, let them consult together. Who has revealed this of old; who has told it from then? Is it not I, Jehovah? And there is no God other than Me; a just God and a Savior; there is none except Me.
Isaiah 45:22: Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the Earth; for I am God, and there is no other.
Isaiah 45:23: I have sworn by Myself, the Word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that to Me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Isaiah 45:24: He shall say, Only in Jehovah do I have righteousness and strength; to Him he comes; and they are ashamed, all who are angry with Him.
Isaiah 45:25: In Jehovah all of the seed of Israel shall be justified, and shall glory.

Philippians 2:5: For think this within you, which mind was also in Christ Jesus,
Philippians 2:6: who subsisting in the Form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God,
Philippians 2:7: but emptied Himself, taking the form of a slave, having become in the likeness of men
Philippians 2:8: and being found in fashion as a Man, He humbled Himself, having become obedient until death, even the death of a Cross.
Philippians 2:9: Because of this also God highly exalted Him and gave Him a Name above every name,
Philippians 2:10: that at the Name of Jesus "every knee should bow," of Heavenly ones, and Earthly ones, and ones under the Earth,
Philippians 2:11: and "every tongue should confess" that Jesus Christ is "Lord," to the Glory of God the Father. (See Isaiah 45:23)

Isaiah 6:1: In the year that King Uzziah died, then I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, high and lifted up. And His train (skirt) filled the Temple.
Isaiah 6:2: Above it stood the seraphs. Each one had six wings; with two he covered his face; and with two he covered his feet; and with two he flew.
Isaiah 6:3: And one cried to the other and said, Holy, Holy, Holy is Jehovah of Hosts; all the Earth is full of His Glory!
Isaiah 6:4: And the doorposts shook from the voice of the one who cried; and the house was filled with smoke.
Isaiah 6:5: Then I said, Woe is me! For I am cut off; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I live amongst a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, Jehovah of Hosts.
Isaiah 6:6: Then one of the seraphs flew to me with a live coal in his hand, snatched with tongs from the altar.
Isaiah 6:7: And he touched it on my mouth, and said, See, this has touched your lips; and your iniquity is taken away, and your sin is covered.
Isaiah 6:8: And I heard the voice of Jehovah, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us? Then I said, Behold me. Send me!
Isaiah 6:9: And He said, Go and say to this people, Hearing you hear, but do not understand; and seeing you see, but do not know.
Isaiah 6:10: Make the heart of this people fat, and make his ears heavy, and shut his eyes, that he not see with his eyes, and hear with his ears, and understand with his heart, and turn back, and one heals him.

John 12:37: But though He had done so many miraculous signs before them, they did not believe into Him,
John 12:38: so that the Word of Isaiah the Prophet might be fulfilled, which he said, "Lord, who has believed our report? And the arm of the Lord, to whom was it revealed?" (See Isaiah 53:1)
John 12:39: Because of this they could not believe, because Isaiah said again,
John 12:40: "He has blinded their eyes" and "has hardened their heart," "that they might not see with the eyes" and "understand with the heart," "and be converted," "and I should heal them." (See Isaiah 6:10)
John 12:41: Isaiah said these things when he saw His Glory, and spoke about Him.
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Isaiah 8:13: Sanctify Jehovah of Hosts Himself, and let Him be your fear; and let Him be your dread.
Isaiah 8:14: And He shall be for a Sanctuary, and for a Stone of Stumbling, and for a Rock of Falling to the two houses of Israel; for a Trap and for a Snare to the ones living in Jerusalem.
Isaiah 8:15: And many among them shall stumble and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.

1st Peter 2:7: Then to you who believe belongs the preciousness. But to disobeying ones, He is the "Stone which those building rejected; this One became the Head of the Corner," (See Psalm 118:22)
1st Peter 2:8: and a Stone-Of-Stumbling, and a Rock-Of-Offense" to the ones stumbling, being disobedient to the Word, to which they were also appointed. (See Isaiah 8:14)
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Isaiah 29:13: And the Lord says, Because this people draws near with its mouth, and they honor Me with its lip; but its heart is far from Me, and their fear of Me is taught by the commandments of men;
Isaiah 29:14: So, behold, I am adding to do wonderfully with this people, the wonder, even a wonder. For the wisdom of his wise ones shall perish, and the wit of his witty ones shall be hidden.

Matthew 15:7: Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy concerning you, saying:
Matthew 15:8: "This people draws near to Me with their mouth, and with their lips honor Me; but their heart holds far off from Me.
Matthew 15:9: But in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men." (See Isaiah 29:13)
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Joel 2:28: And it shall be afterward, I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh. And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions.
Joe 2:29: And also I will pour out My Spirit on the slaves and on the slave-girls in those days.
Joe 2:30: And I will give signs in the Heavens and in the Earth: blood, and fire, and columns of smoke.
Joe 2:31: The sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the coming of the great and awesome day of Jehovah.
Joe 2:32: For it shall be, all who shall call on the Name of Jehovah shall be saved. For salvation shall be in Mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, as Jehovah has said, and among the survivors whom Jehovah shall call.

Romans 10:9: Because if you confess the Lord Jesus with your mouth, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
Romans 10:10: For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses unto salvation.
Romans 10:11: For the Scripture says, "Everyone believing on Him will not be put to shame." (See Isaiah 28:16)
Romans 10:12: For there is no difference both of Jew and of Greek, for the same Lord of all is rich toward all the ones calling on Him.
Romans 10:13: For everyone, "whoever may call on the Name of the Lord will be saved." (See Joel 2:32)

1st Corinthians 1:2: to the Assembly of God which is in Corinth, those having been sanctified in Christ Jesus, called-out Saints, with all those calling on the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ in every place, both theirs and ours
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JESUS CHRIST IS CALLED JEHOVAH (YAHWEH):

Jeremiah 23:5: Behold, the days come, says Jehovah, that I will raise to David a Righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and act wisely, and He shall do justice and righteousness in the Earth.
Jeremiah 23:6: In His days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely. And this is His Name by which He shall be called, Jehovah our Righteousness.

Zechariah 3:1: And he made me see Joshua the High Priest standing before the Angel of Jehovah, and Satan standing at his right hand to accuse him.
Zechariah 3:2: And Jehovah said to Satan, Jehovah rebuke you, Satan! And, Jehovah who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand plucked out of the fire?

Edited by - UnDisfellowshipped on 7 September 2002 5:23:55

This is a good list of texts, but many will be unmoved by them. IMO it all depends what you personally feel. The arguments for the Trinity have been raging for nearly two thousand years and I guess when it comes down to it, the most important thing is a personal relationship with God and not some esoteric arguments. well, that's my feeling, anyway.

Cheers, Ozzie

My "Little Computer People" Philosophy of life helps shed light on Jesus as the manifestation of God. The Creator as like man is the creator of the computer. As such he is not subject to the laws of the world he creates. In fact the only way a creature from the created world could at all communicate with or perceive the existence of the creator from his inpercievable world is by means of an interface. It requires a mediator to reflect the creator to the greatest extent possible in the created world. In this world this interface or mediator is Jesus Christ the Word. He is the manifestation of the Creator in the world of the creation. He also is the only directly created thing. Through him all things else were created. In a sense he is the creator of all things though he himself is creation. He is properly referred to in scripture as the Alpha and Omega because he is the first and last of all creation.

Thinking of Christ in this way answers all the questions we can have about Christ and God.

Zechariah

Edited by - zechariah on 5 September 2002 7:11:44

JESUS CHRIST IS CALLED GOD

John 1:1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2: He was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3: All things came into being through Him, and without Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being.

John 20:27: Then He said to Thomas, Bring your finger here and see My hands, and bring your hand and thrust into My side, and be not unbelieving, but believing.
John 20:28: And Thomas answered and said to Him, My Lord and my God!
John 20:29: Jesus said to him, Because you have seen Me, Thomas, you have believed. Blessed are the ones not seeing, and believing.

John 10:30: I and the Father are One!
John 10:31: Then again the Jews took up stones, that they might stone Him.
John 10:32: Jesus answered them, I showed you many good works from My Father. For which work of them do you stone Me?

Psalm 45:6: Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; the scepter of Your Kingdom is a scepter of uprightness.
Psalm 45:7: You love righteousness and hate wickedness; on account of this God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your fellows.

Hebrews 1:1: In many ways and in various ways of old, God spoke to the fathers in the Prophets;
Hebrews 1:2: in these last days He spoke to us in the Son, whom He appointed Heir of all; through whom He indeed made the ages;
Hebrews 1:3: who being the Shining Splendor of His Glory, and the Express Image of His Essence, and upholding all things by the Word of His power, having made purification of our sins through Himself, He sat down on the right of the Majesty On High, (See Psalm 110:1)
Hebrews 1:4: having become so much better than the angels, He has inherited a Name more excellent than they.
Hebrews 1:5: For to which of the angels did He ever say, "You are My Son; today I have begotten You"? And again, "I will be a Father to Him, and He shall be a Son to Me." (See Psalm 2:7)
Hebrews 1:6: And again, when He brought the First-Born into the world, He said, "And let all the angels of God worship Him."
Hebrews 1:7: And as to the angels, He said, "Who makes His angels spirits, and His ministers a flame of fire;" (See LXX-Psalm 103:4 and MT-Psalm 104:4)
Hebrews 1:8: but as to the Son, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, A scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your Kingdom;
Hebrews 1:9: You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; because of this God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness beside Your fellows." (See Psalm 45:6 and 7)
Hebrews 1:10: And, "You, Lord, at the beginning founded the Earth, and the Heavens are works of Your hands.
Hebrews 1:11: They will vanish away, but You will continue; and they will all become old, like a garment,
Hebrews 1:12: and You shall fold them up like a covering, and they shall be changed. But You are the Same, and Your years shall not fail." (See LXX-Psalm 101:26-28 and MT-Psalm 102:25-27)
Hebrews 1:13: But to which of the angels did He ever say, "Sit at My right hand until I place Your enemies as a footstool of Your feet?" (See LXX-Psalm 109:1 and MT-Psalm 110:1)
Hebrews 1:14: Are they not all ministering spirits for service, being sent out because of the ones being about to inherit salvation?

Isaiah 7:14: So, The Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold! The virgin will conceive and will bring forth a Son; and she shall call His Name Immanuel.

Matthew 1:23: "Behold! The virgin will conceive in her womb and will bear a Son, and they will call His Name Emmanuel" (which translated is, God with us). (See Isaiah 7:14)

Isaiah 9:6: For a Child is born; to us a Son is given; and the Government is on His shoulder; and His Name is called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:7: There is no end to the increase of His Government and of peace on the throne of David, and on His Kingdom, to order it, and to sustain it with justice and with righteousness, from now and forever. The zeal of Jehovah of Hosts will do this.

Isaiah 10:20: And it shall be in that day, the remnant of Israel, and the escaped ones from the house of Jacob, shall not any more lean on him who struck him. But they will truly lean on Jehovah, the Holy One of Israel.
Isaiah 10:21: The remnant shall return, the remnant of Jacob, to the Mighty God.

Isaiah 40:9: Go up for yourself on the high mountain, one bearing good news to Zion; lift up your voice with strength, one bearing good news to Jerusalem. Lift up, do not fear. Say to the cities of Judah, Behold! Your God!
Isaiah 40:10: Behold, the Lord Jehovah will come with strength, and His arm rules for Him. Behold, His reward is with Him, and His wage before Him.
Isaiah 40:11: He shall feed His flock like a shepherd; He shall gather lambs with His arm; and carry them in His bosom; those with young He will lead;

Romans 9:5: whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to Flesh, He being God over all, blessed forever. Amen.

1st John 5:20: And we know that the Son of God has Come, and He has given to us an understanding that we may know the True One, and we are in the True One, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the True God and the Life Everlasting.

1st Timothy 3:16: And confessedly, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in Flesh, was justified in Spirit, was seen by angels, was proclaimed among nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in Glory.

1st John 3:16: By this we have known the Love of God, because that One laid down His Life for us; and on behalf of the Brothers we ought to lay down our lives.

Titus 2:13: looking for the blessed hope and Appearance of the Glory of our Great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Titus 2:14: who gave Himself on our behalf, "that He might redeem us from all lawlessness and purify a special people for Himself," zealous of good works. (See Psalm 130:8 and Ezekiel 37:23 and Deuteronomy 14:2)
Titus 2:15: Speak these things and exhort and convict with all authority. Let no one despise you.

2nd Peter 1:1: Simon Peter, a slave and Apostle of Jesus Christ, to those equally precious with us, having obtained Faith in the righteousness of our God and our Savior, Jesus Christ

1st John 5:7: For there are Three bearing witness in Heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these Three are One.
1st John 5:8: And there are Three who bear witness on the Earth: The Spirit, and the Water, and the Blood; and the Three are to the One.

Acts 20:28: Then take heed to yourselves and to all the Flock, in which the Holy Spirit placed you as overseers, to shepherd the Assembly of God which He purchased through His own Blood.

Jude 1:4: For certain men stole in, those of old having been written before to this judgment, ungodly ones perverting the grace of our God into unbridled lust, and denying the Only Master, God, even our Lord Jesus Christ.

Colossians 1:12: giving thanks to the Father, who has made us fit for a share of the inheritance of the Saints in light,
Colossians 1:13: who delivered us out of the authority of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of the Son of His Love,
Colossians 1:14: in whom we have redemption through His Blood, the remission of sins;
Colossians 1:15: who is the Image of the Invisible God, the First-Born of all creation.
Colossians 1:16: For all things were created in Him, the things in the Heavens, and the things on the Earth, the visible and the invisible; whether thrones, or lordships, or rulers, or authorities, all things have been created through Him and for Him.
Colossians 1:17: And He is before all things, and all things have subsisted in Him.
Colossians 1:18: And He is the Head of the Body, the Assembly, who is the Beginning, the First-Born out of the dead, that He be preeminent in all things;
Colossians 1:19: because all the Fullness was pleased to dwell in Him,
Colossians 1:20: and through Him making peace by the Blood of His Cross, to reconcile all things to Himself; through Him, whether the things on the Earth, or the things in the Heavens.

Colossians 2:9: For in Him dwells all the Fullness of the Godhead (Deity, or Divine Nature and Essence of God) Bodily;
Colossians 2:10: and having been filled, you are in Him, who is the Head of all rule and authority

Revelation 4:8: And the four living creatures each one had six wings around, and within being full of eyes. And they had no rest day and night, saying, "Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God Almighty," the One who was, and is, and is coming! (See Isaiah 6:3)
Revelation 4:9: And whenever the living creatures shall give glory and honor and thanks to the One sitting on the throne, to the One living to the ages of the ages,
Revelation 4:10: the twenty four elders fall down before Him sitting on the throne; and they will worship the One living to the ages of the ages, and will throw their crowns before the throne, saying,
Revelation 4:11: Lord, You are worthy to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because You created all things, and through Your will they exist and were created.

Revelation 5:6: And I saw, and behold, in the midst of the throne, and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, was a Lamb standing, as having been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the Seven Spirits of God, having been sent out into all the Earth.
Revelation 5:7: And He came and took the Scroll out of the right hand of Him sitting on the throne.
Revelation 5:8: And when He took the Scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one having harps, and golden bowls full of incenses, which are the prayers of the Saints.
Revelation 5:9: And they sing a new song, saying, Worthy are You to receive the Scroll, and to open its Seals, because You were slain, and by Your Blood purchased us to God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
Revelation 5:10: and made us Kings and Priests to our God; and we shall reign over the Earth.
Revelation 5:11: And I saw, and I heard a sound of many angels around the throne, and the living creatures, and the elders, and their number was myriads of myriads, and thousands of thousands,
Revelation 5:12: saying with a great voice, Worthy is the Lamb having been slain to receive the power and riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and blessing.
Revelation 5:13: And every creature which is in Heaven, and in the Earth, and underneath the Earth, and the things that are on the sea, and the things in all of them, I heard saying: To Him sitting on the throne, and to the Lamb be the blessing and the honor and the glory and the might forever and ever.
Revelation 5:14: And the four living creatures said, Amen. And the twenty four elders fell down and worshiped the One living forever and ever.

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2nd Thessalonians 3:5: And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God and into the patience of Christ.

Ozzie,

You don't have to believe or accept the trinity doctrine to believe that the bible says Jesus is God.

Sirona

JESUS CHRIST WAS PRAYED TO:

Psalm 31:5: Into Your hand I commit My spirit; You have redeemed Me, O Jehovah, God of Truth.

Acts 7:55: But being full of the Holy Spirit, looking intently into the Heaven, he saw the Glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right of God.
Acts 7:56: And he said, Behold, I see the Heavens having been opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right of God!
Acts 7:57: And crying out with a loud voice, they held their ears and rushed on him with one passion.
Acts 7:58: And throwing him outside the city, they stoned him. And the witnesses put off their garments at the feet of a young man called Saul.
Acts 7:59: And they stoned Stephen, invoking and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
Acts 7:60: And placing the knees, he cried out with a loud voice, Lord, do not make stand this sin to them. And having said this, he fell asleep.

2nd Corinthians 12:8: Beyond this I entreated the Lord three times, that it depart from me.
2nd Corinthians 12:9: And He said to me, My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is perfected in weakness. Therefore, I will rather gladly boast in my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may overshadow me.
2nd Corinthians 12:10: Because of this, I am pleased in weaknesses, in insults, in dire needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for the sake of Christ. For when I may be weak, then I am powerful.

Revelation 22:20: The One testifying these things says, Yes, I am Coming quickly. Amen. Yes, Come, Lord Jesus!
Revelation 22:21: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with all of you. Amen.

Acts 2:21: "And it shall be that everyone who shall call on the Name of the Lord will be saved."
(See Joel 2:28-32)

Acts 9:14: And here he has authority from the Chief Priests to bind all the ones calling on Your Name.

Acts 9:21: And all those hearing were amazed and said, Is this not the one destroying those who have called on this Name in Jerusalem, and he had come here for this, that binding them he might lead them before the Chief Priests?

Acts 22:16: And now what do you intend? Rising up, be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on the Name of the Lord.

1st Corinthians 1:2: to the Assembly of God which is in Corinth, those having been sanctified in Christ Jesus, called-out Saints, with all those calling on the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ in every place, both theirs and ours

1st Timothy 1:12: And I have thanks TO Him empowering me, our Lord Jesus Christ, because He counted me faithful, putting me into the Ministry

Jeremiah 17:10: I, Jehovah, search the heart, I try the reins, even to give to each man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings.

Revelation 2:23: ....and all the assemblies will know that I (Jesus) am the One searching the inner parts and hearts. And I will give to each of you according to your works.

Psalm 139:23: Search me, O God, and know my heart; try me, and know my thoughts

Acts 1:24: And having prayed, they said, You, Lord, Knower of all hearts, show which one You chose from these two,
Acts 1:25: to take the share of this Ministry and Apostleship, from which Judas fell, to go to his own place.
Acts 1:26: And they gave their lots. And the lot fell on Matthias; and he was numbered with the Eleven Apostles.

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JESUS CHRIST WAS WORSHIPED AND HE ACCEPTED THE WORSHIP:

Exodus 20:2: I am Jehovah your God, who has brought you out from the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Exodus 20:3: You shall not have any other gods before Me.

Deuteronomy 6:13: You shall fear Jehovah your God, and you shall serve Him, and you shall swear by His name.
Deuteronomy 6:14: You shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the peoples who are around you,
Deuteronomy 6:15: for Jehovah your God is a jealous God in your midst, lest the anger of Jehovah your God burn against you, and He destroy you from off the face of the Earth.

Matthew 4:10: Then Jesus said to him, Go, Satan! For it has been written: "You shall worship the Lord your God, and you shall serve Him only." (See Deuteronomy 6:13)

Acts 10:25: And as Peter was coming in, meeting him, Cornelius fell at his feet and worshiped.
Acts 10:26: But Peter lifted him up, saying, Stand up! I myself am also a man.

Acts 14:11: And seeing what Paul did, the crowd lifted up their voice in Lycaonian, saying, The gods have come down to us, becoming like men.
Acts 14:12: And they called Barnabas, Zeus, and Paul, Hermes, because he was the leader in speaking.
Acts 14:13: And the priest of Zeus being before their city, carrying bulls and garlands to the gates, he wished to sacrifice along with the crowds.
Acts 14:14: But Paul and Barnabas, the apostles, hearing, tearing their garments, they sprang into the crowd, crying out,
Acts 14:15: and saying, Men, why do you do these things? We also are men of like feelings to you, announcing the gospel to you to turn you from these vanities to the living God, who "made the Heaven and the Earth and the sea, and all things in them," (See Exodus 20:11)

Colossians 2:18: Let no one condemn you, delighting in humility and worship of the angels, pushing into things which he has not seen, being puffed up by the mind of his flesh without cause

Revelation 19:10: And I fell before his feet to worship him, but he said to me, Behold! Stop! I am a fellow-slave of yours, and of your Brothers, having the Testimony of Jesus. Worship God. For the Testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Revelation 22:8: And I, John, was the one seeing and hearing these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel showing me these things.
Revelation 22:9: And he said to me, Behold! Stop! For I am your fellow-slave, and of your Brothers the Prophets, and of the ones keeping the Words of this Book. Do worship to God.

Hebrews 1:6: And again, when He (The Father) brought the First-Born (The Son) into the world, He said, "And let all the angels of God worship Him." (Even the older New World Translation Bibles say "Worship" in this Scripture instead of "Obeisance".

Matthew 2:1: And when Jesus had been born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men arrived from the east to Jerusalem,
Matthew 2:2: saying, Where is He born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.

Matthew 2:11: And having come into the house, they saw the Child with His mother Mary. And falling down, they worshiped Him. And opening their treasures, they presented gifts to Him: gold and frankincense and myrrh. (The Watchtower's own "My Book of Bible Stories" says that the "Wise Men" WORSHIPED JESUS!)

Joshua 5:13: And it happened, when Joshua was beside Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked. And, behold! A Man stood in front of him, and His drawn sword was in His hand. And Joshua went to Him and said to Him, Are You for us, or for our foes?
Joshua 5:14: And He said, No, for I now come as the Commander of the Army of Jehovah. And Joshua fell on his face to the Earth and worshiped. And he said to Him, What does my Lord speak to His slave?
Joshua 5:15: And the Commander of the Army of Jehovah said to Joshua, Take your shoe off your foot, for the place on which you are standing is Holy. And Joshua did so.
Joshua 6:1: And Jericho was closed, and was shut in from the face of the sons of Israel; no one going out, and no one coming in.
Joshua 6:2: And Jehovah said to Joshua, See I have given Jericho and its king, mighty warriors, into your hand.

Psalm 45:11: And the King will desire your beauty, for He is your Lord, and you shall worship Him.

Psalm 45:17: I will make remembered Your Name in every generation and generation; on this account people shall thank You forever and ever.

Matthew 14:25: But in the fourth watch of the night, Jesus went out to them, walking on the sea.
Matthew 14:26: And seeing Him walking on the sea, the Disciples were troubled, saying, It is a phantom! And they cried out from the fear.
Matthew 14:27: But immediately Jesus spoke to them, saying, Be comforted! I AM! Do not fear.
Mat 14:28 And answering Him, Peter said, Lord, if it is You, command me to come to You on the waters.
Matthew 14:29: And He said, Come! And going down from the boat, Peter walked on the waters to go to Jesus.
Matthew 14:30: But seeing the wind strong, he was afraid, and beginning to sink, he cried out, saying, Lord, save me!
Matthew 14:31: And immediately stretching out the hand, Jesus took hold of him, and said to him, Little-Faith, why did you doubt?
Matthew 14:32: And coming into the boat, the wind ceased.
Matthew 14:33: And those in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, Truly, You are the Son of God.

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Yes, I do agree with you. I do think though, that to be saved you must believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and our Mediator, and that He died for your sins.

Absolutely. Without doubt.

My point, if there was a point, was that seemingly endless repeating of scripture texts are not going to bring someone to Christ. Nor will seeking to "prove" the Trinity. Let us, by all means, proclaim the Gospel. That's indeed 'good news'. God will see to the rest.

God bless.

Ozzie

Something overhere:

jwsons

"All Bible Scriptures below are from the "Literal Translation of the Holy Bible."

What is the "Literal Translation of the Holy Bible"?

Who translated it?  Who publishes it?  Why does it use the name "Jehovah" in the OT instead of the Lord?

Zechariah, you said:

"Through him all things ELSE were created"

Read John 1:3 carefully, (Also 1 Cor. 8:6; Romans 11:36)

"All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." John 1:3