Jehovah's Christian Witnesses

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    LoisLane looking for Superman posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 03:32:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    How much do you want to bet, that in the next year or two, the Governing Body will get "new light" and change their name to Jehovah's Christian Witnesses"?

    Sulla posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 03:41:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    I'll take the "No," side and bet $100.

    EmptyInside posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 04:04:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    Actually,I don't believe they will,since we were told not to say that out in service. There is supposedly an "apostate" group who goes by Jehovah's Christian Witnesses. At least,that is what I was told.

    M Athanasius posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 04:28:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    You are correct, EmptyInside. There is a schismatic sect of Jehovah's Witnesses that goes by the name Jehovah's Christian Witnesses. I think there is a small group of them in the Seattle area. By the way shortly after the Rutherford coup in 1917, a group of Bible Students broke away from the Watchtower. They were called the Stand Fast movement and they were mostly located in the Pacific Northwest of the U.S. and British Columbia in Canada. So it's possible that the JWs from that part of the country are more independent in their thinking.

    Maybe there are some ex-JWs from Washington State that have more information on the JCWs.

    3rdgen posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 04:30:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    Ray Franz was fond of the term and you know what happened to him. If he said it, wrote it, or liked it, it is no longer acceptable. Congregations that had signs that said Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses were told they must remove Christian from the signs. The WT$ is correct they are NOT Christian.

    LoisLane looking for Superman posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 04:37:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    Thanks, all of you for your comments.

    I thought since they have signed off on some official correspondence as "Jehovah's Christance Witnesses", they were letting "us" get used to that idea.

    M yadda yadda 2 posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 07:06:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    Nothwithstanding all that, the point is it would make a lot of sense for them to do it. Their current name makes them sound like a quasi-Jewish cult and not Christian at all (there is a good argument that they are in fact just that). Even my mother who has been a devoted Witless for 43 years and never read anything apostate thinks they should change their name to this. But alas, the almighty creator of the universe was trumped by a tiny, obscure ex-JW group getting rights to it first. Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

    inbyathread posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 10:07:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    Their letterhead has on it, "Christian Congregation of Jehovan's Witnesses". This way they affiliate them selves with the word Christian but keep the name different than the other group to avoid any legal entanglements.

    Sulla posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:28:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    OK, but I'm still interested in a bet? Do we have anyone on the other side willing to make a wager?

    Witness My Fury posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:50:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    n the meantime, this imposter GB has not had "new light" in 20 years,

    Utter bollocks, ..as per usual. Faulty premise, faulty "logic", = bonkers conclusions.

    F jgnat posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:56:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    "planned JW kill event"

    huh?

    Finkelstein posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 14:13:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    Possibly something might change from the WTS. starting in 2014 and further on, as they try and distance themselves from 100

    years of failed prophecies. New Light can come in many variations, such as changing the name of the Watchtower and Awake magazines,

    they did this once before you'll remember. There is a underlining marketing strategy operating within the WTS. publishing house,

    whether one is intellectual aware of this or not.

    NeverKnew posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 15:37:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    Since Christ's promise is applicable to so very few within the JW congregation, I'm kinda thinking the name Jehovah"ists" would be most appropriate. They can practice Jehovah"ism".

    The Aid to Bible Understanding tells everyone who actually reads it that the term "Jehovah" was a name that was made up by a Roman Catholic monk in 1270 AD. That would make it man-made. It would only be fitting that a man-made organization would leverage the use of a man-made name. Oh wait... that would make it harder to deceive the unwashed masses who have some familiarity with the New Testament's promises to Christians... nevermind.

    The insertion of the word "Christian" would clearly serve the corporation's goal of acquiring more intangible assets... I mean... "believers." Having more "believers" has the potential to lead to higher revenues.... unless folks stop believing in the product.

    Lois, as an outsider who has only gotten a 1 year internet driven education of what this organization has done to people's lives, my stomach churns just thinking about what may be in the works to maintain current and obtain more intangible assets - I mean, "believers." Sorry.

    OUTLAW posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 15:54:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    They will release "new light" before the planned JW kill event,

    The Cuckoo is out of his Clock Again..

    ........................... ...OUTLAW

    M kurtbethel posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:57:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    Jehovah's Christian Witnesses, sure.

    You could put a sign on Anthony Morris III's desk that says "Respected Bible Scholar" but that does not make it so.

    Anthony Morris III Watchtower Jehovah's Witness governing body

    F blondie posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:24:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    The WTS once used this phrase frequently. They started using it frequently in the mid 60's but by 1984 with one last mention in the WT and a couple in 1986 publications, the phrase was dropped. The WTS even directed congregations not to put that phrase on the KH sign.

    *** km 4/79 p. 4 Announcements ***Is it appropriate to have a Kingdom Hall sign saying: “Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses”? So there will be uniformity, the Society encourages all to make their signs read: “Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses.”

    They now have a corporation called "Christian Witnesses of Jehovah" which may circumvent the problem of another group having it as a "trademark."

    *** w03 12/15 p. 21 par. 9 Prove Yourself Ready for Jehovah’s Day ***The outer garments mentioned here refer to what identifies us as Christian Witnesses of Jehovah. This includes our work as Kingdom proclaimers and our Christian conduct. If we slide into sleeplike inactivity, we may be stripped of our Christian identity.

    F Quandry posted Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:26:00 GMT(8/26/2012)

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    Welcome to the forum, Lois.

    I enjoyed your opening post. I don't know what their next "new light" will be, but I'm thinking it will be something again with the generations..........after all, no one can understand the "current light" on that one.

    NOLAW posted Mon, 27 Aug 2012 00:58:00 GMT(8/27/2012)

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    Agreed. Maybe a new greater scale fulfillment of the generation and Revelation. 1914 was correct we live in the spiritual paradise now, but soon Arm...

    same bulls**t x2 ...

    tresdecu posted Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:19:00 GMT(8/29/2012)

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    Is this the official name in the UK?

    THE EUROPEAN ASSOCIATION OF

    JEHOVAH’S CHRISTIAN WITNESSES

    See link with letterhead:

    http://lib.ohchr.org/HRBodies/UPR/Documents/Session7/EG/EAJCW_UPR_EGY_S07_2010_TheEuropeanAssociationofJehovahsChristianWitnesses.pdf

    tresdecu posted Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:22:00 GMT(8/29/2012)

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    another one...from jw-media.org

    contact info at bottom of press release:

    Media Contacts:
    J. R. Brown, tel. +1 718 560 5600
    Ukraine: Religious Center of Jehovah’s Witnesses, tel. +38 032 240 9315
    Belgium: European Association of Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses, tel. +32 2 782 0015
    Britain: European Association of Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses, tel. +44 208 906 2211

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