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2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:14:00 GMT
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Post 62 of 92 Since 7/5/2008 |
Actually, guys, I think they are quoting from scholar A.E. Bailey's book "Daily Life in Bible Times," not the childrens book somebody linked to. The best full quote I could find is “Paul’s general practice was to work at his trade from sunrise to 11 a.m., . . . then from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. to preach in the hall, . . . and then lastly to make a house to house evangelistic canvass that lasted from 4 p.m. to far in the night.” (sir82 seems to have beat me to posting about this) |
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:16:00 GMT
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Post 55 of 127 Since 10/14/2011 |
BINGO! *** w61 8/15 p. 503 “From House to House” ***
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:25:00 GMT
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Post 300 of 592 Since 7/19/2011 |
No one wants their home messed up anymore. Especially elders and their wives. Now they want your humble abode to be messed up and call it a privilege. |
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sir82
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:37:00 GMT
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Mongolia Post 6600 of 7768 Since 5/17/2005 |
Ha! I knew it! Service Department honcho: "Brother Lackey, do some research and find me a quote I can use about 'evening witnessing' that I can plug into the KM article I am writing." Brother Lackey: <Fetches WT-CD and pops it into his laptop> Click-click-clickety-click. "Aha - found something!" Brother Lackey thinks to himself "I am a world-classs researcher..." |
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 01:21:00 GMT
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![]() Post 5446 of 6417 Since 11/29/2007 |
So did the author of that book discover Paul's datebook or iPad. How was he able to come up with his information on Paul's daily schedule? |
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 01:44:00 GMT
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Post 440 of 724 Since 4/26/2012 |
Billy, it took a while to figure out his password, they kept trying variations of "607" but it was actually "587". |
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:01:00 GMT
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Post 1068 of 1823 Since 11/18/2009 |
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:39:00 GMT
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Post 582 of 1784 Since 11/9/2011 |
http://forums.planet-tonga.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=32541&start=30 The A. E. Bailey quote was quoted in the All Scripture Inspired book as well. Of course, did house-to-house mean door-to-door in the same manner JWs do it? Or did it mean visiting the houses of believers? I believe the latter. |
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 03:48:00 GMT
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Post 2137 of 3267 Since 4/3/2009 |
Amen
Scott77 |
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steve2
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 06:13:00 GMT
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![]() Post 4963 of 5970 Since 10/31/2004 |
Yes, but what about the scripture that describes how the early Christians met in private homes to discuss the literature on offer that morning before embarking on the door-to-door work? Where in the Bible is that you ask? Let me think.... Sorry, I've just confused the Kingdom Ministry for the Bible...again. Stop your questioning and just do it! |
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smiddy
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 07:29:00 GMT
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QueenslandPost 1554 of 2527 Since 3/30/2007 |
My wife & I opened our house to book study & fieldservice arrangements during the 19 seventies. Prior to that in the 19 sixties I often engaged in evening witnessing sometimes on a monday evening , but more often than not, before the bookstudy on a tuesday evening. Do witnesses do anything like that now ? Certainly not in my area that I have observered smiddy |
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besty
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 09:50:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 4034 of 4566 Since 3/3/2005 |
thanks for the clarifcation on the source material :-)
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:26:00 GMT
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Post 441 of 724 Since 4/26/2012 |
My hall during the summer had evening witnessing two nights a week. To ensure support, they assigned not one, but THREE brothers to be there. Often those three (if they even made it) were the only ones there. I told them to take me off that list because I worked retail and could not always make it. What a shitstorm that started. |
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:18:00 GMT
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![]() Post 13783 of 14542 Since 5/10/2007 |
And did Paul become a Satanist so he could win Satanists? I doubt it. Working field circus in the evenings is dumb. First, you might get people home--and pxxx them off. Do you really want to risk pxxxing off someone that happens to have a big dog or a gun? Or, do you wish to cut yourself off from potential opportunity later on? What if that householder you pxxx off on a late night call is just the person you need later to help you find a job? Or barter with? Another dumb thing is crime. Do you want to work a bad area in the city at night? They are bad enough working at 10 in the morning. I would not want to work those sections at 8 PM on a hot muggy summer evening. Chances are good that you will be mugged, your car stolen, or even get caught in cross fire between people settling a gambling or drug argument with a gun. They don't always hit their target--and if they miss, do you wish to be there so you can be hit instead? Plus, when do you get time to actually do things normal humans do? Are you only a normal human, with regular needs, between 1 and 5 AM? That is what the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger seems to think. |
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Gayle
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:24:00 GMT
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![]() ArizonaPost 3636 of 4109 Since 11/17/2006 |
You know, the GBers won't be doing this evening service. Maybe once for 'show.' |
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:32:00 GMT
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Post 2297 of 2730 Since 4/5/2010 |
I found this Kingdom Ministry interesting in relation to information from the recently settled court case ... also additional Watchtower publication references. Opposing Party's Response and Supporting Evidence taken from "Linda Vista's Opp to Plaintiff's Sep Statement of Undisputed Material Facts" 15. Jehovah's Witnesses do not engage in their field ministry activity as representatives or on behalf of Watchtower or any congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses. The engage in the field ministry in personal response to Jesus' command at Matthew 28:19,20, not a response to any command from Watchtower or any congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses. 23./24. Congregation publishers are not required to complete or turn in any forms regarding their field ministry activity to anyone. 25. Before Jehovah's Witnesses engage in their field ministry, they generally meet for a brief "meeting for field service", which is generally conducted by an elder or ministerial servant. However, publishers are not required to attend a meeting for field service before they begin their field service activity. 26. Congregation members are not required to engage in the field ministry in any specific territory. 27. Congregation members are not required to call on homes in an assigned territory. The primary purpose of a congregation member's field service activity is to preach the Good News of God's Kingdom and honor Jehovah God. How do the following compare with the above statements? From OKM 10/201 5 Our presentation should be tailored to Howto Benefit FromYour Field 3 Although the congregation now meets 4 It is often advantageous for each group Can You Offer Your Home? Field Service Highlights *** km 8/09 pp. 6-7 Meetings for Field Service *** *** km 9/10 p. 4 Schedule for Week of October 4 *** *** km 11/07 p. 3 Announcements *** *** w11 3/15 p. 19 You Have Cause for Rejoicing *** *** km 12/02 p. 8 par. 3 Do You Contribute to an Accurate Report? ***
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kurtbethel
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:46:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 3593 of 4725 Since 5/20/2007 |
Taken literally, you are not required to do any of those things. It is all volunteer work. What is not stated in the lawsuit is the negative consequences of not volunteering, such as shunning, loss of family, possible loss of job and so forth. |
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:32:00 GMT
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Post 2140 of 3267 Since 4/3/2009 |
The Watchtower Society of Jehovah's Witnesses is a manipulative , deceptive and misleading cult group. The level of hypocrisy and misrepresentation is amazing. This day, I will never understand how on earth can still those seemingly 'humble' rank and file accept those bullshits. Its amazing and unbelieable.
Scott77 |
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:20:00 GMT
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Post 1436 of 3533 Since 2/21/2012 |
Im calling bullshit on anybody preaching after 4pm and into the night in the ancient world. Given electricity and street lighting did not exist back then, i highly doubt anybody was wondering the streets at night. I also highly doubt anybody in those days would be opening their door to some strange character again in the dark. Given Paul supposedly travelled from town to town how exactly does a new person in town find thier way home in pitch black dark. Even with some fires going the streets are still dark and its can imagine very difficult to remember how to get home or to the inn where he stayed. In winter it gets dark not that longer after 4pm in the middle east, and given the narrow dark passages in typical towns noone could find their way in the dark. I remember watching some of those Jack the Ripper remakes and the streets of olde London in the late 1800s had simple lighting and it was a very dark place. Given the old towns in the Roman world had none, just makes it obvious what utter nonsense it is to think there was a busy night inthe ancient world, where people moved about and so on. |
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Re: 2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!
posted Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:29:00 GMT
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Post 1437 of 3533 Since 2/21/2012 |
Street lighting http://www.ehow.com/about_5453076_inventions-did-ancient-rome-make.html Government
http://www.mariamilani.com/ancient_rome/ancient_roman_inventions.htm
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