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    F Gayle posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:17:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    just scanned thru quickly,,same stuff I think mostly,,Dan. chapter 2,, world powers illustrations,,re-statements of 1914 & 607,,

    By the time the Lord’s day began

    in 1914,pg 15

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    Babylonians conquered

    Jerusalem in 607 B.C.E. pg 22

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    picture of maybe 12 yr old girl getting baptized

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    more don't go to college, pioneer instead and don't work too much on your job, etc..

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    illustration on page 6 on how the GB, circuit and district overseers truly help people,,hee-hee, just kidding :)

    F AnnOMaly posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:35:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    Two of the articles are based on last year's Convention Public Talk - the 'toes' one. Para. 11, p. 16:

    Does the number of toes of the image have special meaning? Consider: In other visions, Daniel mentions specific numbers-for example, the number of horns on the heads of various beasts. Those numbers are significant. However, when describing the image, Daniel does not mention the number of toes. Therefore, the number seems no more significant than the fact that the image had multiple arms, hands, fingers, legs, and feet. Daniel does specifically mention that the toes would be made of iron and clay. From his description, we can conclude that the Anglo-American World Power is the one that will be dominating when the "stone" representing God's Kingdom hits the feet of the image.-Dan. 2:45.

    F AnnOMaly posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:44:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    Para. 19, p. 18 - Prophecy alert for any young'uns to keep an eye on. (The older'uns already remember the predictions relating to the role of Soviet-led communism in kick-starting the End, and the one about the preaching work bieng completed in the 20th century.)

    We are living in the days of the seventh head. No more heads will appear on this beast before it is annihilated. The Anglo-American World Power will be the dominant world power when false religion is eradicated. The prophecies of Daniel and John have been fulfilled to the smallest detail. We can be confident that the destruction of false religion and the battle of Armageddon will soon come. God has revealed these details in advance. Will we pay attention to the prophetic warnings? (2 Pet. 1:19) Now is the time to take sides with Jehovah and to support his Kingdom.-Rev.14:6, 7.

    Knowsnothing posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:12:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    Same old same old.

    designs posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:25:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    Join God's Army

    M JeffT posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:58:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    Ann has a a good point. China and India are growing by leaps and bounds. If trends continue, they're going to need to change the light bulb on this one.

    Conan The Barbarian posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:14:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    While they are at it, it would be good to revise "The King of the North and The King of the South" stuff. That should be good for a few study articles. It is clear that The King of the North cannot be the Communist block (considering any of that was ever correct). Terrorism maybe? Terrorism is nebulous and a moving target. That could be good revision for a decade or two.

    wannabefree posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:32:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    Since China and India are growing by leaps and bounds, this just emphasizes how close we absolutely must be to the end since it has to come before any other nation takes world power status! That's it ... why have I let you doubters infect my mind? I must get back to examplary status at the Kingdom Hall ... afterall, the Watchtower must be right, God wouldn't mess with us like that. See ya.

    M moshe posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:42:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    more don't go to college, pioneer instead and don't work too much on your job, etc.

    Why work hard, who needs college anyway? Just start your own service business and be a fulltime pioneer and never worry about retirement, because you will never be able to quit working.

    breakfast of champions posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:16:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    Wow, this one is chock full of crap. Amazing.

    This reads like one of the watchtowers in the mid 80's when I was in HS deciding what to do with my life. Masters of guilt and deception.

    bats in the belfry posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:47:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    Is Loretta for real? Where do they find these people? Let me get this straight: When the company relocated the business, her boss checked for her place of worship to accommodate her beliefs, and she turned it down?

    Quintessentially, you've got to love the it when the GB proverbially kicks the JWs in the ass by scripture-quoting the life-sytle of the rich and famous.


    Loretta, one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, had a good job at a food-preparation company. When the company was to relocate, Loretta was offered an important position at the new place: “It’s the chance of a lifetime,” the directors told her. “We’ve already found out that there’s a Kingdom Hall there.” But Loretta wanted to simplify her life to serve the Creator more fully. She saw that the new post would leave her less time for Christian activities. Hence, she submitted her resignation, though the director confided that she was the only employee whom they really wanted to keep. Loretta, who now has been a regular pioneer for some 20 years, is convinced that the good results obtained were directly related to her having planned with “skillful direction,” yes, in harmony with the advice found in God’s Word. She strengthened her relationship with Jehovah and has had the privilege of helping several to accept
    Bible truth.

    (...) True success is not determined by the material or social goals that those in the world often pursue. King Solomon understood this. He was inspired to write: “It will turn out well with those fearing the true God, because they were in fear of him.” (Eccl. 8:12)
    Awake! June 15, 2012, page 31

    bats in the belfry posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:50:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    Sorry, it is: WT June 15, 2012, page 31 / mea culpa!

    M moshe posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:06:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    True success is not determined by the material or social goals that those in the world often pursue. King Solomon understood this. He was inspired to write: "It will turn out well with those fearing the true God, because they were in fear of him." (Eccl. 8:12)

    Well spoken by a King with 700 wives a 300 concubines, so just what was the WT trying to imply here?

    Larsinger58 posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:27:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    The Bible cldarly says the seventh king would be there for a short time. That must be the Anglo-American dual world power. But then the 8th king follows it which is a combination of all the others, meaning the U.N., the scarlet-colored wild beast to whom all the major governments give up their power.

    We see that now, the inevitable coalition of all the world governments solving the global issues through the U.N. So it is not the Anglo-American dual world power that is ruling when the stone hits, but the U.N.

    The TEN toes must represent the composite of all worldly governments cooperating through the U.N.. The number ten represents "earthly completeness" so is not an absolute number but a figurative one. The ten toes thus repesent the various collective member nations of the U.N.

    This is directly from the Bible. So that would accommodate what we see today with the new emergic economic countries including China, Brazil and others not previously on the world scene influencing the global economy.

    The US is already giving up sovereignty to the U.N.! the U.S. includes the U.N. in global issues and requires the other member nations to pay their fair share now. The US does not want the burden of being the world's police. It is financially strapped and needs the cooperation of the other member nations now.

    The next BIG EVENT that we are now to expect is the destruction of "Babylon the Great" which is not the "world empire of false religion", that is, organized religions around the world. It is the underground activities of the "Illuminati" which subscribes to the "Mysteries" of ancient Babylon and Egypt. This is well documented on conspiracy theory weblinks. It is that faction in the world that put the seeing-eye pyramid on the dollar and why C.T. Russell was mysteriously honored by a huge pyramid on his Freemasonry grave site. BTG is thus the connection to the economic control exerted over the world by world banking, etc. So when we see the U.N. destroy the Federal Reserve and all the nations create a world government through the U.N. then we know the next event will be Armageddon.

    LS

    wannabefree posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:26:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    I still don't see what is really different other than the toes, it doesn't actually change what was taught about the final kings ... does it? It just seems to be a repackaging of what was already believed to somehow instill the thought that the end is really soon now even though nothing has changed. The only thing they seem to be avoiding is the pushing between the king of the north and south.

    I am such an IDIOT for getting mixed up with this BS!

    therevealer posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:34:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    from what bats in the belfry posted

    20 years and she has helped several "She strengthened her relationship with Jehovah and has had the privilege of helping several to accept Bible truth."

    agonus posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:44:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    Yeah, they've been banging on the so-called "Anglo-American World Power" since at least the 80s (remember the Rev Climax book?) and probably further back than that. I doubt they'll touch the KOTN vs KOTS again anytime soon, they're just way too clueless and I think they're cautious of throwing too much new end-times theology out there because they know how ridiculous it could potentially make them look. They're already experiencing fallout over the "overlapping generation", why make the situation worse by feeding more conjectural nonsense to an already weary, confused, and restless flock?

    agonus posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:46:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    And yeah, if these "experiences" are not completely fabricated, they have to at least be embellished. Your employer scouting for a new place of worship for you? For someone in "food preparation"? Are you kidding me?

    agonus posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:53:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    Does "Loretta" by any chance have a son in high school named "Andre" who was recently offered a full ride scholarship to Harvard after spending his Senior year successfully fending off the advances of a popular girl who was determined to seduce him?

    M jwfacts posted Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:59:00 GMT(3/15/2012)

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    They really do not seem to get the contradiction in this magazine, and their overall teaching. The cover is witnessing in Thailand where there are almost no JWs. But then they say the end is soon. Soon, these 69 million people in Thailand will be killed, because the preaching work did not fully reach them in time. How is the whole preaching aspect at all encouraging when it has had so little reach.

    Also, an indication of how poor Watchtower research is, they list the population of Thailand as 65million, which is the 2005 figure. The current figure is 69 million. I wonder why they don't check these things before printing.

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