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2011 Yearbook - "Tracing All Things with Accuracy"

    pirata posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:43:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    2011 Yearbook - "Tracing All Things with Accuracy", p.9-13

    Jesus said that the faithful slave would be discreet in giving the domestics "their food at the proper time." Christ thus indicated that those who dispense this "food" would be conscientious, prudent, and discerning in providing spiritual food for the household of faith.-Matt. 24:45-47.

    In our time, Christ's anointed brothers use the Writing Department in Brooklyn, New York, to provide spiritual information in the form of magazines, brochures, books, and other printed and electronic material. This spiritual food, like physical food, has to be well prepared. Even Bible writers, who were directed by holy spirit, made sure that they recorded information that was thoroughly researched and accurate. Luke, for example, spoke to many eyewitnesses and "traced all things from the start with accuracy."-Luke 1:1-4.

    The Writing Department follows the pattern of 'tracing all things with accuracy'. But where can reliable information be found? While the Internet is a convenient and quick source of vast amounts of information, our researchers do not rely on blogs or poorly documented Web entries written by unidentified or unqualified persons. For example, Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia, warns that some articles on its own site "contain significant misinformation, unencyclopedic content, or vandalism," adding that "users need to be aware of this." Thus, the Writing Department looks to standard reference woks, articles written by recognized experts, and books produced by respected publishers.

    The Writing Department itself has a comprehensive library with thousands of books. Additionally, our researchers make use of nearby public and academic libraries. They can also obtain specialized material from other sources by means of interlibrary loans. One of the large university libraries that our researchers use has some five million books, 58,000 periodicals, 5.4 million microforms, and thousands of electronic databases. The Writing Department also maintains a large archive of clippings, experiences, and historical information that is constantly being updated with material from local sources as well as from our branch offices around the world.

    Of course, it is as Ecclesiastes 12:12 reminds us: "To the making of many books there is no end." Even reputable sources may contain false information. So how do we check for quality, accuracy, and reliability?

    Take, for example, the following statement in the brochure Was Life Created? about spider silk being one of the strongest materials on earth: "If enlarged to the size of a football field, a web of dragline silk 0.4 inch thick with strands 1.6 inches apart could stop a jumbo jet in flight!" Although the source for this statement was a reputable science magazine, it was not the original source, and the original source was ambiguous. Therefore, it became necessary to contact the researcher who made the original statement and check how he reached this conclusion. Our researchers also had to find the formula and the information needed to calculate for themselves what impact a jumbo jet may have on a spiderweb the size of a football field. Many hours of research and meticulous calculations eventually confirmed the accuracy of this astounding piece of information.

    At times, though, even a seemingly reputable source may fail to corroborate details adequately. For example: Gandhi has been quoted as saying at his ashram (religious retreat) to Lord Irwin: "When your country and mine shall get together on the teachings laid down by Christ in this Sermon on the Mount, we shall have solved the problems not only of our country but those of the whole world." However, a thorough investigation of this statement revealed that there is no evidence that Lord Irwin ever visited Gandhi at his ashram, raising unanswered questions about where, when, and whether Gandhi made this statement. Hence, our publications do not use this particular quote anymore.

    Or you may have read about the incident involving Sir Isaac Newton and a model of the solar system. Reportedly, a visiting atheist asked: "Who made it?" When Newton answered, "Nobody!" the atheist replied, "You must think I am a fool!" Newton is then said to have told the atheist that his puny imitation of the much grander solar system proves there there has to be a designer or a maker. As appealing as this account may be, historical sources, as well as Newton scholards and biographers, cannot provide evidence that this conversation really occurred. Interestingly, the earliest reference to this incident appeared in the early 1800's using, not Newton's name, but the name of German scholar Athanasius Kircher. Consequently, our Writing Department no longer uses this account in our publications.

    Sometimes even minor statements require additional research to confirm their accuracy. For instance, a brother may say in his life story that he was born in Czechoslovakia in 1915. But Czechoslovakia did not come into existence until 1918. So, where was he born? Settling the question might require examining old maps or historical records.

    Then, too, a brother may state in his experience that he was baptized in San Francisco on a specific date. Careful scrutiny, however, might reveal that there was no convention or assembly on that date in that city. How can such a discrepancy be reconciled? Individual memories can at times be fragile. While the brother would probably not get confused about the place of his baptism, he might not accurately recall the date of the event. It is usually possible to confirm the accuracy of the details by cross-checking various sources of information.

    In summary, the Writing Department insists on using only material that is accurate and truthful, even regarding seemingly insignificant details. As a result, "the faithful and discreet slave" can consistently supply spiritual food that brings honor to "The God of truth," Jehovah.-Ps. 31:5

    Alwayshere posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:11:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    THE WRITING DEPARTMENT INSISTS ON USING ONLY MATERIAL

    THAT IS ACCURATE AND TRUTHFUL.

    All they know how to do is lie.

    M slimboyfat posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:21:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    No mention of using the United Nations library.

    poopsiecakes posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:38:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    The Writing Department itself has a comprehensive library with thousands of books. Additionally, our researchers make use of nearby public and academic libraries. They can also obtain specialized material from other sources by means of interlibrary loans. One of the large university libraries that our researchers use has some five million books, 58,000 periodicals, 5.4 million microforms, and thousands of electronic databases. The Writing Department also maintains a large archive of clippings, experiences, and historical information that is constantly being updated with material from local sources as well as from our branch offices around the world.

    ...they forgot to mention that they're perfectly comfortable misquoting these sources or quoting out of context.

    It's all well and good to have a wealth of sources but if you misuse them to push your own agenda, they're essentially worthless.

    M TD posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:40:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    Thorough research?

    From what I've seen, the entire Bethel writing department would be thoroughly trounced by 5th graders in basic science.

    When they can explain (After more than 70 years of effing it up) what an equinox is, I'll retract this statement and apologize.

    punkofnice posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:40:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    2011 Yearbook - "Tracing All Things with INAccuracy", p.9-13

    Jesus said that the faithful slave would be discreet in giving the domestics "their food at the proper time." Christ thus indicated that those who dispense this "food" would be conscientious, prudent, and discerning in providing spiritual food for the household of faith.(No Jesus didn’t SAY anything of the kind, neither did he IMPLY anything about ‘spiritual food’ being meant. This was just a parable. He even said it was an ‘illustration’. This is an example of manipulating the Scriptures.)-Matt. 24:45-47.

    In our time, Christ's anointed brothers use the Writing Department in Brooklyn, New York, to provide spiritual information in the form of magazines, brochures, books, and other printed and electronic material. This spiritual food, like physical food, has to be well prepared. Even Bible writers, who were directed by holy spirit, made sure that they recorded information that was thoroughly researched and accurate. Luke, for example, spoke to many eyewitnesses and "traced all things from the start with accuracy."-Luke 1:1-4. (No scriptures say anything about a ‘writing department’ in Brooklyn or anywhere else. Scripture in Luke 1:1-4 used way way way out of context.)

    The Writing Department follows the pattern of 'tracing all things with accuracy'. (Don’t get me started on the amount of secular material they have misquoted), But where can reliable information be found? While the Internet (Oh, here we go! This should be fun!!) is a convenient and quick source of vast amounts of information, our researchers do not rely on blogs or poorly documented Web entries written by unidentified or unqualified persons.(Which is exactly what he Watchtower does). For example, Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia, warns that some articles on its own site "contain significant misinformation, unencyclopedic content, or vandalism," adding that "users need to be aware of this." Thus, the Writing Department looks to standard reference woks, articles written by recognized experts, and books produced by respected publishers.(Then why doesn’t the Watchtower accurately give quotes and names?)

    The Writing Department itself has a comprehensive library with thousands of books. Additionally, our researchers make use of nearby public and academic libraries. They can also obtain specialized material from other sources by means of interlibrary loans. One of the large university libraries that our researchers use has some five million books, 58,000 periodicals, 5.4 million microforms, and thousands of electronic databases. The Writing Department also maintains a large archive of clippings, experiences, and historical information that is constantly being updated with material from local sources as well as from our branch offices around the world. (Yet the average JW is not really allowed to do independent research?)

    Of course, it is as Ecclesiastes 12:12 reminds us: "To the making of many books there is no end." (Then why so many Watchtower publications?)Even reputable sources may contain false information.(What, like 607BCE? 1975 being Armageddon?)So how do we check for quality, accuracy, and reliability?

    Take, for example, the following statement in the brochure Was Life Created? about spider silk being one of the strongest materials on earth: "If enlarged to the size of a football field, a web of dragline silk 0.4 inch thick with strands 1.6 inches apart could stop a jumbo jet in flight!" Although the source for this statement was a reputable science magazine, it was not the original source, and the original source was ambiguous. Therefore, it became necessary to contact the researcher who made the original statement and check how he reached this conclusion. Our researchers also had to find the formula and the information needed to calculate for themselves what impact a jumbo jet may have on a spiderweb the size of a football field. Many hours of research and meticulous calculations eventually confirmed the accuracy of this astounding piece of information. (Wow! That makes a change. Mind you, who did they contact? Only ones who would be favourable to the Watchtower doctrine?)

    At times, though, even a seemingly reputable source may fail to corroborate details adequately. For example: Gandhi has been quoted as saying at his ashram (religious retreat) to Lord Irwin: "When your country and mine shall get together on the teachings laid down by Christ in this Sermon on the Mount, we shall have solved the problems not only of our country but those of the whole world." However, a thorough investigation of this statement revealed that there is no evidence that Lord Irwin ever visited Gandhi at his ashram, raising unanswered questions about where, when, and whether Gandhi made this statement. Hence, our publications do not use this particular quote anymore.(So what does this prove? It’s OK to make false prophecy like 1975 but best not to mention it now?)

    OK. I’m bored with this now...........

    Bonnie_Clyde posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:41:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    We've discussed before how the WT has misquoted sources regarding the date of Jerusalem's destruction as well as regarding the whether Jesus died on a cross or torture stake.

    Leolaia posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:54:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    Wow, what audacity. The Society has published "poorly sourced" information for many decades; "A scientist says" etc. etc. Its creation literature in particular is well-known to have taken quotes out of context. Same goes with what it has published on earthquakes.

    Instead of putting all that effort into verifying whether spider silk is really so strong, how about availing themselves to the wealth of information in that vast university library and elsewhere to verify whether the 607 BC date is correct? What kind of corroboration would they likely find in such research?

    Also the internet does contain reliable information. Many of those periodicals and books are available online as e-documents. It isn't just a world of Wikipedia and blogs. And much of those writing on the internet do take care to go straight to primary sources, just as they claim to be doing.

    nolongerwaiting posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:59:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    OH MY GOODNESS!! Uggg. I see they tried to get a jab at the wikipedia article because of stuff on there that embarresses the WTS. This article turns my stomach.

    NLW's wife

    poopsiecakes posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:04:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    Instead of putting all that effort into verifying whether spider silk is really so strong, how about availing themselves to the wealth of information in that vast university library and elsewhere to verify whether the 607 BC date is correct?

    That's awesome...as if they'd have the balls!!

    Aussie Oz posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:22:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    OMG

    wikipedia is more reliable than the WT writing department

    they make me wanna puke!

    oz

    M No Apologies posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:49:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    Wow this article is so full of mistakes, its like shooting fish in a barrel.

    How about the life stories where a witness relates how he was first contacted by the Bible Students in the very early 1900s and was told by the Bible Students that Jesus presence had begun in 1914? It doesn't take much "research" to know that up until the 30s they taught that Jesus' invisble presence began in 1874.

    I predict this thread will go on for dozens of pages.

    No Apologies

    Ding posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:06:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    If you're trying to trace all things with accuracy, you'll steer clear of WT publications.

    They become unreliable "old light" in two years or less.

    If quoted at freeminds.org or on JWN, they have turned into "apostate literature."

    M slimboyfat posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:23:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    They make an argument in favour of print sources of information over online sources, which on the face of it is not all that surprising from a publishing company that is well over 100 years old and is increasingly slow to adapt. Yet they fail to acknowledge that a lot of published material is also made available online these days, and that trend can only accelerate. In fact maybe the Yearbook itself will be available online on their website, in which case you will have the irony of the statement in this publication denigrating online sources itself being found online, at which point presumably it can no longer be trusted.

    M slimboyfat posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:46:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    Also the comment about not relying on blogs as sources of information is interesting because online Witness blogger Solomon Landers appears to have been their main source of information for the article in the Watchtower a couple of years ago about the Coptic version of John 1:1

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/165941/1/Coptic-John-1-1-makes-it-into-the-Watchtower

    http://copticjohn.blogspot.com/

    zoiks posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:51:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    Instead of putting all that effort into verifying whether spider silk is really so strong, how about availing themselves to the wealth of information in that vast university library and elsewhere to verify whether the 607 BC date is correct?

    Exactly!

    This is simply a case of misdirection on the WTS' part, IMO.

    bobld posted Sun, 06 Feb 2011 23:26:00 GMT(2/6/2011)

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    I always get a good laugh when they(GB) say "proper food at the proper or right time".When they say things like the generation that saw 1914 would not pass away before the end of the system of things.And I would have to hold my tongue and say to myself you are wrong.If I said anything I would be DF'D for apostasy.Or I would have to wait for the light to get brighter for the GB and than they would try and weasel their way out by saying it was my fault for running ahead of their ORG.Oh they would claim it is Gods' org.

    Also all the bs in books as proper food at the proper time.Oh I get it we the J.W. are NOT to read any books that are not edited by the GB.Otherwise we would be smarted then the GB.They don't want anyone educated.Reminds me of how powerful leaders(Hilter) would get rid of the educated elite.

    B

    Perry posted Mon, 07 Feb 2011 02:10:00 GMT(2/7/2011)

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    And here are some of their past tracings:

    In several Watchtower publications, the Society has favorably cited the work of Johannes Greber as supporting its theology and key bible passages. Greber’s stand on many major doctrines is identical to that of the Watchtower Society. In 1923, Greber, who was a Roman Catholic priest, became interested in communication with spirit beings. These spirits often spoke through his wife, who was a spirit medium. The spirits told him that the Bible was full of errors and couldn’t be trusted and that he should translate his own. His experiences with spirits and their communications with him are related in his book, Communication With the Spirit World, published in 1932. As a reminder, Deuteronomy 18 commands:

    10 There shall not be found among you any one …that useth divination …or a charmer… or a consulter with familiar spirits…For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD

    And again in Leviticus chapter 20 He warns:

    6 And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off…

    In open rebellion to God, Greber consulted the demons through his wife and other spirit mediums when facing ‘difficult’ passages while working on his bible translation. In the Forward to his "bible", he states that sometimes the correct translation would supernaturally appear as letters on the wall.

    I own a copy of Greber’s bible and it is identical to many passages in the New World Translation, especially those dealing with foundational Christian truths. The facts simply do not allow for the Watchtower to plead ignorance on this matter. Here are just a few citations to demonstrate the Watchtower's early acknowledgement of Greber’s demonic involvement:

    "Very plainly the spirits in which ex-Catholic priest Greber believes helped him in his translation" (W.T. 2/15/56/ p.111).

    Also in that 1956 issue of the Watchtower magazine we find the following quote:

    “Says Johannes Greber in the introduction of his translation of The New Testament, copyrighted in 1937: ‘I myself was a Catholic priest, and until I was forty-eight years old had never as much as believed in the possibility of communicating with the world of God's spirits. The day came, however, when I involuntarily took my first step toward such communication, and experiencing things that shook me to the depths of my soul. . .My experiences are related in a book that has appeared in both German and English and bears the title, Communication with the Spirit World: Its Laws and Its Purpose.’ "

    So, if the Watchtower knew that spirits had assisted Johannes Greber in “translating” his bible version as early as 1956, why would they use him to support various renderings of the NWT for the next 20 years? Here are a few of those citations:


    Aid to Bible understanding Page 1669, (Pub. 1969) The Word
    Aid to Bible understanding Page 1134, (Pub. 1969) Memorial tombs
    Make sure of all things... Page 489, "a god"
    The Watchtower 9/15/1962 Pg 554, The Word
    The Watchtower 10/15/1975 Pg 640 No Resurrection
    The Watchtower 4/15/1976 Pg 231 No Resurrection
    The Word Pg 5 "a God

    therevealer posted Mon, 07 Feb 2011 03:38:00 GMT(2/7/2011)

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    I like where they say that with further research they have concluded that the 1914 doctrine and the overlapping generation doctrine have been shown to be simply the imaginations of over zealous old men.

    punkofnice posted Mon, 07 Feb 2011 09:19:00 GMT(2/7/2011)

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    Sometimes even minor statements require additional research to confirm their accuracy. For instance, a brother may say in his life story that he was born in Czechoslovakia in 1915. But Czechoslovakia did not come into existence until 1918. So, where was he born? Settling the question might require examining old maps or historical records.

    ....or he might claim to be 'annointed' or some other unbelievable cobblers! EG. Some silly experience involving a 'truth book' hitting him on the head and knocking him out. Thus he found the 'trooooooOOOoOOOOooOOth!'

    Does the writing department deliberately write such boring backpeddling nonsense?

    Oh, sorry of course it does! It's the propoganda technique of 'cognitive dissonance' or baffle them with BS!

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