Jan Awake, stating JW's are only true religion


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    F lostsheep82 posted Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:33:00 GMT(11/8/2010)

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    I haven't posted in a long time. Most trying to recover and still get my head straight, this religion when you find it's not the 'truth' is hard to move on sometimes. My mom urgently needed to speak to me about a magazine that just came out. You can download the PDF for January 2011 awake here:


    It blatently states that JW's are the only true relgion quoting book writers and the relgion encyclopedia. My mom is super excited and the JW's have been waiting for an article like this to come out. I know they have said it before, but are they grasping at straws here? I want so badly to have my mom realize the truth about this religion but they publish stuff like this it makes the believers all the more avid!

    It makes me shake my head in frustration:(

    Magwitch posted Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:48:00 GMT(11/8/2010)

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    LOST SHEEP: It makes me shake my head in frustration:(

    I shake my head in absolute frustration when I hear my parents drone on about the only and absolute "TROOF"

    At this point I feel it is best for my parents to die believing it is the only true religion. It has been their whole life and now they are at the end of that JW life. Sometimes it is best to let them have their fairy tale.

    M leavingwt posted Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:49:00 GMT(11/8/2010)

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    She probably believes that Armageddon is "just around the corner", too.

    ziddina posted Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:58:00 GMT(11/8/2010)

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    Oh, for pete's sake...

    I cannot believe that ANYONE not on the WatchTower payroll, would claim that they are the "TRUE™ " religion...

    Research the sources. Who the heck puts out this "religion encyclopedia", anyway????

    Also, 3 billion dollars can buy a lot of cooperation from small, struggling publishing companies....


    sabastious posted Mon, 08 Nov 2010 23:02:00 GMT(11/8/2010)

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    I feel for ya lostsheep. It's hard to watch people rejoice over religious bigotry.


    bohm posted Mon, 08 Nov 2010 23:10:00 GMT(11/8/2010)

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    The "Atheism on the march" magazine also had an interview with a scientist who assure the reader that all "true science" agree with the bible.

    "true" religion, "true" science, "true" worship. Whats next, all "true" facts agree with X? all "true" arguments agree with Y? Somehow the prefix "true" does not have the ring of credibility.

    MrMonroe posted Mon, 08 Nov 2010 23:15:00 GMT(11/8/2010)

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    If the link at http://www.encyclopedia.com/article-1G2-3424501597/jehovah-witnesses.html is the article they're quoting from (and the online article is sourced to The Encyclopedia of Religion), it contains the following statements:

    • Like other sectarian Protestant groups founded in the later nineteenth century, they claim to restore Christianity to its original doctrines and practices.
    • In matters of faith and practice, Jehovah's Witnesses submit to the theocratic authority of the Watchtower Society.
    • Russell's personal life was marked by controversies. He based some of his biblical interpretations on analyses of the Great Pyramid ...

    The WTS is very skilled at plucking convenient quotes from published literature to give the impression of an official endorsement.

    Paulapollos posted Mon, 08 Nov 2010 23:29:00 GMT(11/8/2010)

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    Hold on, JW's have been waiting for an article to come out that states that the Encyclopedia of Religion says they are "distinctive" because they claim "they base all their beliefs on “the authority of the Bible, which entirely supplants tradition.” ?

    Oh, and "A paper published by the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine states that Jehovah’s Witnesses aim to overcome “racial, national, religious, social, and economical differences.” The study explains that Jehovah’s Witnesses do not engage in “anti-state activity” and are “law-abiding citizens of their country.” ?

    JW's have been waiting for this?

    If someone thinks that the EOR acknowledging that they don't have centuries of traditional interpretation to rely on, and that a Ukrainian organisation acknowledging that they try not be racist, classist and so on, and that they don't commit treason and sedition as a rule, and generally obey the law..........if a Witness reads that as "They are all saying we are the true religion".........oh dear!

    I think even the Witnesses will find as they read the next paragraph, it's not these organisations "recognising" them as "the true religion"! It's the Awake writers who say: "Because they closely follow the pattern of first-century Christians, it could be said that Jehovah’s Witnesses have successfully reinstated the form of worship that was established by Christ and his apostles." Er, ok. Or.....it could be said....they haven't....?

    If a JW used those quotes to say others recognised him as the true religion, i think perhaps kindly asking them to re-read the paragraph might help!


    M jwfacts posted Mon, 08 Nov 2010 23:33:00 GMT(11/8/2010)

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    It is frustrating the JW's are so ignorant as to get excited just because their magazine tells them they are special. So what; it holds no weight. That magazine article is not unique, they have made the same claims endlessly over their history, as do every marketing organization.

    wiser posted Mon, 08 Nov 2010 23:36:00 GMT(11/8/2010)

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    who wrote this book, satan?

    Paulapollos posted Mon, 08 Nov 2010 23:40:00 GMT(11/8/2010)

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    I wonder, if I could write something where I said, "I am special and unique and right and the only person trusted by God because.......I say I am." I wonder if I could get 7m people to give me some money too.....


    MrFreeze posted Mon, 08 Nov 2010 23:57:00 GMT(11/8/2010)

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    Where can I send the check Paulapollos?

    M Black Sheep posted Tue, 09 Nov 2010 00:18:00 GMT(11/9/2010)

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    I haven't managed to find the quote in The Encyclopedia of Religion, but the author of that article, David L. Weddle, also wrote this article on JWs for Introduction to New and Alternative Religions in America.

    The Encyclopedia of Religion is deceptively quoted in the Trinity brochure. I doubt that there has been any change in the integrity of their journalism since then.

    Paulapollos posted Tue, 09 Nov 2010 00:42:00 GMT(11/9/2010)

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    Mr Freeze,

    only you have responded, because only you have the right heart condition! I have much to share with you.....all you need to do is make the cheque out to C.ongregation of L.atterday A.nnointed P.eople of T.rue R.ighteous A.nnointed P.aulapollosians', and I will show you more sacred secrets....just remember MrFreeze, if anyone tries to convince you otherwise, ask yourself - do they have your best interests at heart like me?? I haven't even started showing you the truth......

    "remember, we don't tell it all (just as Jesus didn't) because some it (sic) is still a sacred secret..that must be held in complete confidence , by the Cheiftain of the Temple, who eats Bread in the Very Presence of God". (www.yorww.com)

    Looks like "God" is going to provide for me, I think I need to start looking for my new villa out in LA....to welcome all the holy men of old back of course, ahem....


    MrMonroe posted Tue, 09 Nov 2010 00:56:00 GMT(11/9/2010)

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    Though to be fair, I've also found another Encyclopedia of Religion, http://www.gale.cengage.com/pdf/facts/EncyReligion.pdf, a 15-volume tome, that the Awake may be quoting. Among all the encyclopedias that include JWs, they've finally found one that says what they want. If it does.

    Lily Pie posted Tue, 09 Nov 2010 01:03:00 GMT(11/9/2010)

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    Just read Jan Awake.... for interest you know....

    It's like reading Richard Dawkins (BTW I have no problem with athiests, just the *religious contemptuous athiest*). He too ires on about the ugliness of "religion"... All the while inspiring bigotry, divisiveness, intolerance, and most importantly - "contempt".

    This is preaching to the choir at its best!!!!

    The Watchtower publishes uninspiring crusades *against* the world. It makes them look ugly, and very very small minded. Good luck handing this out to householders.... It is nothing to be gleeful about. They should be ashamed.

    Lily Pie

    F Mary posted Tue, 09 Nov 2010 01:03:00 GMT(11/9/2010)

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    Someone did a post on this the other day as well. Witlesses have been tooting their own horn for decades, claiming that they and only they are 'true Christians'. Below is the chart that's in the Asleep magazine along with a um, more accurate one:

    Spade posted Tue, 09 Nov 2010 01:30:00 GMT(11/9/2010)

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    Most people descend into disbelief because their prayers go unanswered. I doubted that my prayers were answered at all. What do JWs say about this or do they also think of God in strictly terms of an intellectual exercise as nobody talks about that here? The religion being true doesn't necessarily mean I'd be a part of it as I need nothing from God atm. Everything about the religion seems real personal to people here although here, all the information they publish is simply treated as an intellectual exercise.

    ziddina posted Tue, 09 Nov 2010 03:37:00 GMT(11/9/2010)

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    If you'll include wild orgies, pot, free-flowing alcohol and tons of sugary sweets as part of your dogma [think Halloween, only year-round...], I'll send you a check, too!!!

    'Course, I don't know if it'll cash...

    So, am I "special" now, too???


    booby posted Tue, 09 Nov 2010 03:56:00 GMT(11/9/2010)

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    Mary, Mary, quite contrary. But dead on.


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