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    F purplesofa posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 13:34:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    I don't know why I particularly got this daily text today, I don't usually get them.

    But, I could not help but share the comment that went with it.

    Heres the text:

    Wednesday, November 3 Those who [marry] will have tribulation in their flesh.—1 Cor. 7:28. The “tribulation” may involve health problems for the couple, their children, or their aging parents. It may also involve difficulties and heartaches connected with the rearing of their children. The Bible foretold that “the last days” would bring “critical times hard to deal with.” Among the things hard to deal with would be children who are “disobedient to parents.” (2 Tim. 3:1-3) Rearing children is a serious challenge for Christian parents. We are not shielded from the adverse effects of the current “critical times.” Hence, Christian parents have to wage an ongoing fight against the pernicious influence that “the system of things of this world” can have on their children. (Eph. 2:2, 3) And the battle is not always won! In case a son or a daughter of a Christian family stops serving Jehovah, it is, indeed, “tribulation” for parents who have tried to raise him or her in God’s truth.—Prov. 17:25. w08 4/15 4:14, 15

    Heres the comment:

    Lesson learned?

    Don't get married, what they comment from the Branch says is true...

    I recommend Chemical castration. In the New world Jesus can fix that :0)

    M OnTheWayOut posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 13:44:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    That comment from WTS belongs right on my thread- my rant about the children JW's.

    AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This friggin' cult makes me mad when I think about the parents "who have tried to raise him or her in God’s truth" and failed so they view it as tribulation for the parents.

    F mrsjones5 posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:03:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    My mother once told me and recently repeated that I'm not a jw today because of my worldly husband. Which is funny cuz I never got baptised to become a jw and I stopped attending meetings regularly about 6 years before I met my husband (I was 27 when I married my husband).

    WTWizard posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:03:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    Of course there will be tribulation in the flesh--and a good chunk of that tribulation comes from the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger. Making it so damn hard for children to obey the religion, teaching them that they are worthless, killing all their fun, and forcing them to live as pio-sneers and Beth Hellites is surely a good way to make sure any smart person will leave the cancer.

    And, a good portion of that "tribulation in the flesh" involves money and sex issues. Money issues are made worse when the Washtowel Slaveholdery insists that both take crap jobs, that one or both pio-sneer, and that he reaches out to be a hounder. Sex issues come when the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger keeps printing articles in their Washtowel rags (which children have to study) that kill any initiative. You can only do it the standard way, which takes away all the fun. Not to mention health issues that are imposed on the witlesses because their lifestyles are the most sickness inducing in the world.

    DagothUr posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:38:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    I studied the Bible with a family in which both were regular pioneers and had no children. They subtly encouraged me not to think of having children and instead concentrate on a "spiritual career", meaning pioneering. They also tried to subtly suppress my desire to marry, but I was always very firm on that position. It seems the BORG atrociously needs single young males...

    M watson posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:49:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    "We told you so. You shouldn't have had kids!" With 60 to 70% of the young ones leaving, they have to blame someone....Satan, "the world," or the parents. Subtle way to do it.

    zoiks posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:02:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    How nice of them to keep reminding parents with unbelieving children to feel sorry for themselves and to view their child's course as a failure.

    Little articles like this continue to undo any hard-fought progress that I make in my relationship with my parents.

    clarity posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:05:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    "We are not shielded from the adverse effects of the current “critical times.” Hence, Christian parents have to wage an ongoing fight.."

    >

    Sheeeesh! Just one more "Constant Battle" without end! One more load of bricks piled on your back!

    Truth be known, most JW kids are acting out against the crazyness of the borg. We make our own particular "critical times"!!!!

    Shunning, marking, gossip, violent armaggeddon teachings(pictures in children's books), spankings for 'moving' at any meetings, no celebrations, isolated from others, persecution at school, being dragged door to door, embarassment, constant disapproval, comparisons with little miss perfect, forced into ministry school & talks even when sick or when Johnny's 12 & his voice keeps cracking up(I'm so sorry honey, god I hope one day you can forgive me), haircuts & clothes always different, no association with non jw family - you lost a big part of what would have been your life, there can be no apology that could cover that kind of criminal behavior, ...

    "In case a son or a daughter of a Christian family stops serving Jehovah" .........Well, in that case, what happens? ...we write them off, we stop talking to them, we gossip about them, their 'true friends' walk rite on past - eyes averted.

    I haven't even covered the fact that we may even let our kids DIE for lack of medical treatment - I can't go on ..................................

    it is, indeed, “tribulation” for parents who have tried to raise him or her in God’s truth. ... And this tribulation for a large part, is not caused 'by this system of things; it is caused by a high control cult!

    may God and our children forgive all of us,

    clarity

    zoiks posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:19:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    Clarity -

    GrandmaJones posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:48:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    It is a terrible shame. One of my daughters has postponed children past the prime childbearing years. A couple more and it would be doubtful she could conceive. If she made the choice for any reason other than her desire to pioneer and "not to bring children into the world in this system of things" I would feel differently, but under the circumstances....

    brotherdan posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:51:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    This is just one more example of how the GB doesn't understand how to interpret scripture according to context. If you read 1Cor chapter 6 and THEN chapter 7, you get a clearer picture of why Paul was talking about this subject.

    For one thing, the Corinthians were saying that NO ONE should get married (or having sex since it was a desire of flesh) (See vs 1 after examining the context of Chapter 6) But Paul was showing that there are benefits and there are risks associated with both marriage AND non-marriage. Paul was saying that sex between a husband and wife was NOT succombing to the flesh, but was of value (see vs 2-4). He was also saying there was danger in remaining single because of the desire for sex. (also vs 2) In vs 8 Paul acknowledge that he saw benefits in staying single. He expands his talk about being BALANCED in your view in vs 17-19 when he said that both circumcision and uncircumcision was NOTHING. I personally took it as comparing this to marriage and non-marriage is NOTHING. The importance is your calling and love and faith for God. vs 27 and 28 says that each one should be happy in their own position and station in life. He was not forbidding marriage, nor was he saying that one SHOULD get married. But each had it's own tribulations.

    And so, this WT comment in the days text misses the entire point. They used the scripture to even further solidify parents in the cult. They used this verse out of context to show that some kids would stop being slaves of the Watchtower when they said:

    In case a son or a daughter of a Christian family stops serving Jehovah, it is, indeed, “tribulation” for parents who have tried to raise him or her in
    God’s truth.—Prov. 17:25. w08 4/15 4:14, 15

    Nefarious scheme at best...IMO

    carvin posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 16:17:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    Well, maybe all JW will heed this advice and stop having children. That would be a good thing for the children, so they won't have to suffer like many others did.

    MrsJones - I know the feeling my elder dad (neither of us were born in he converted and then so did I) still tries to blame others for my not being a JW anymore. He would sometime say things like "You just don't want to be told what to do.", or other similar comments. I told him that I was just using the wisdom that he and my mother taught me to think for myself and to objectivly look at all sides of an issue and make the right dession. Ever since then my leaving was somebody elses fault. I think they insist on that so they can say they did everything right.

    Wouldn't it be nice to be a fly on the wall on judgement day and here all the lame excuses they give for treating family so hatefuly?

    brotherdan posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 16:20:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    He would sometime say things like "You just don't want to be told what to do."

    I HATE that! I get told that ALL the time! I don't mind being told what to do! I'm told what to do by my boss everyday!

    F purplesofa posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:22:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    Thanks for your comments,

    I don't want to have an ongoing fight with my children,

    I want to love them, guide them, support them, teach them, enjoy them.

    It's not fun and games all the time,

    but we are a family. It's my family.

    My responsibility.

    The way they live their life is their choice,

    my always being their mother is not.

    I saw the torment my youngest daughter went through

    trying to be a teenage JW. I think it scarred me worse than her.

    Thanks for reading.

    antes8080 posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:56:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    tribulation how nice the fact is the jehova does not whant your kid in paradise only that ppl he whants so he is so loving

    F Snoozy posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 22:09:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    So are they saying that kids can/may be a pain in the arse now or later?

    Snoozy

    F mrsjones5 posted Wed, 03 Nov 2010 22:15:00 GMT(11/3/2010)

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    Wouldn't it be nice to be a fly on the wall on judgement day and here all the lame excuses they give for treating family so hatefuly?

    Yes Carvin, that would be something to see (you got that right, my parents have been extremely hateful. Now my husband, kids and I are "you people" instead of family).

    M Honesty posted Thu, 04 Nov 2010 12:42:00 GMT(11/4/2010)

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    "In case a son or a daughter of a Christian family stops serving Jehovah, it is, indeed, “tribulation” for parents who have tried to raise him or her in God’s truth.—Prov. 17:25. w08 4/15 4:14, 15"

    I wish those asses up in NYC would stop writing shit about me.

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