What is the HIDDEN purpose of the Watchtower corporation?

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    M Terry posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:03:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    Why does the average man or woman on the street only have a vague awareness of who Jehovah's Witnesses are and what they stand for? Isn't it weird they know next to nothing after over a hundred years of door to door work???

    Ask yourself why this has been such an ineffective ministry.

    One actor, Tom Cruise, has raised more awareness about his own religion (Scientology) than all the Watchtower magazines placed at a million households. In Cruise's case, it is behavior that attracted attention.

    In the case of the Watchtower, the bad behaviors (death due to refused blood) only paints the Society as martyrs, albeit fantatical.

    The actual MESSAGE of what Jehovah's Kingdom means is completely lost to the public.

    Could it be because all this work is designed to do is imitate a process of delivering an important life-saving message?

    Could it be because the real purpose of the Watchtower corporation is hidden intentionally?

    Corporations acquire legitimacy by earning a profit. In the case of a religious corporation the "profit" must not appear as mere monetary gain. There has to be a public service aspect to generating millions of dollars that will escape taxation! Ordinary corporations must demonstrate to the Board of Directors that cash flow is equitable to investors and a justifiable return on investment has been made. The Watchtower Corporation has had to generate a kind of marvelous "machine" you could pour money into and make it disappear in the form of the preaching work.

    CONSTANT EXPANSION is the key! This is a kind of maniacal pyramid scheme to grow and grow ahead of the curve of waves of $$$.

    Watchtower rank-and-file members are used as volunteer labor staying very busy appearing to be doing something important.

    What they are really doing is generating publicity which serves to hide the actual purpose of the Watchtower corporation.

    What is the genuine purpose of the Watchtower corporation?

    POWER INVESTMENT!

    REAL ESTATE!

    The Watchtower was a corporate Donald Trump. It could grow dollars and not have to pay taxes on them. It could point to a worldwide work as evidence of money well spent (which wasn't really "spent" at all.) It could account for the cash flow by pointing to new projects in development and new acquisitions ostensibly for more and more publishing effort.

    But, in reality, the goose just kept laying golden eggs in the nest of Governing Body members.

    To the rank and file there was no Bill of Rights. They could be worked to death grinding out book and magazine sales. In fact, they had no choice but to comply since their very identity as Jehovah's Witnesses depended on demonstrations of door to door sales and hours devoted.

    But, why should they?

    There was a gun placed to the head of every Jehovah's Witness in the form of Armageddon. This threat could only seem real enough if Armageddon was made a fresh threat and not a vague one in the distant future.

    Any Jehovah's Witness who didn't fear being slaughtered at Armageddon just wasn't paying attention. Failure to comply with the busy-busy work commanded from Brooklyn headquarters would lead to disfellowshipping. Disfellowshipping would lead to having a big target placed on the ex-JWs back at Armageddon.

    It was the perfect "Protection Racket" organized crime had used to intimidate shopkeepers in the Al Capone era.

    Further, every once and awhile a GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE would have to be run. This would be in the form of date-setting.

    Date-setting (determining when Armageddon was to arrive) was an Investment.

    The publicity was golden. The threat level was heightened. The cash flow was extraordinary. The need for more investment property increased. The grip of absolute power was made real.

    The downside was practically nil!!

    Whatever number of members who balked and left in disgust; the upside was greater! How so?

    1.Only the "weaker" members would leave and that is no loss at all.

    2.The disfellowshipping would serve as a warning to other members and make threats appear very real.

    3.An outside body of “apostates” could be created as a target for vilification that served to drain off anger as a target away from the Governing Body itself. This apostate group would feel the brunt of frustrations and not the actual perpetrator's of date-setting fraud.

    4.A mindset of cognitive dissonance would be reinforced because anybody who stayed would have to justify being made a fool of for believing in the Faithful and Discreet Slave nonsense in the first place.

    5.Any slowdown in the worldwide conversions would be a bonus since it would "signal the end" of the preaching work was drawing near and that would mean Armageddon really was imminent!

    Even outright fraud in the preaching purpose redounded as a benefit!

    But, there was a fly in the ointment.

    THE MESSAGE could not be made available all at once to everybody or the work would implode!

    The only way for Jehovah's Protection Racket to stay healthy would be this:

    1. The public at large must have only a vague idea of who Jehovah's Witnesses really are (or the public eye would see through the corporate treadmill and start asking where the money went.)

    2. The rank and file must always bear the burden of selling the books and magazines to keep them busy.

    3. The use of martyrs has a limited purpose. If the relatives of martyrs start suing in court: the game is up!

    The legal situation got out of hand suddenly when people started questioning the backpeddling on delicate issues such as child molestation policy and medical emergency policy.

    A buffer of protection was needed to separate the Governing Body from legal responsibility for their hurtful policy-making edicts.

    Thus, the re-organization came and went without much publicity reaching the lower ranks and all was well.

    Which brings us back to the question: Why no TV ministry?

    As we have seen the purpose of the Governing Body is to generate investment capital through real estate ventures. A TV ministry would dry up that money machine quickly by generating a high-profile examination on the part of the newly well-informed public. An actual full-frontal presentation of the weirdness behind JW thinking would kill the vague persona of citizen do-gooders who clean up after themselves at conventions. The scrutiny would become intensely focused on Brooklyn, NY and the actual men who are power brokers on the throne of power.

    Publicity has served the corporate purpose when they can frame that publicity as Kingdom Work. Publicity of a different nature could destroy them!

    The lawsuits and exposure by internet sites dredging up failed prophecy and policy waffling are a sore point. Governing Body power can only deal with rank and file unrest by clamping down with threats and a tightening grip. It cannot control non-members curiosity. It cannot ignore penetrating questions of authority by threats if the press starts bombarding them with high-profile questions hanging in the air unanswered.

    That is why there is no TV ministry for Jehovah's Witnesses. It is a kind of self-fashioned paradox that the Watchtower claims to be heralding an important and urgent message and yet demonstrates an absolute horror of making that message public effectively by using the best technology available.

    Follow the money and it leads to a cover up; not a revelation of Christ's presence.

    A new generation of leader will emerge soon at the top of the corporate ladder in Brooklyn. A younger and more legally-protected leadership will shift this money machine into high gear once again by protecting its assets and eliminating its liabilities. What changes will this bring to the local congregations?

    Not the one they are praying for! The key purpose of new leadership will be to make individual responsibility invisible.

    THERE WILL BE A GREAT AND POWERFUL OZ at the helm with fire and smoke and mirrors.

    But, for the local Kingdom Halls it will be grunt work as usual.

    M stillajwexelder posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:10:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    ABBA sang, Money, Money, Money - its a rich mans world

    Liza Minneli sang Money Makes the World go round ,the world go round

    R.Crusoe posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:13:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    Suppose the guys at the helm began to believe they were just a fake! How to dissolve all the finance and let go all the believers?

    It's like a guy who has children with a wife he knows he shouldn't be with and stays for the responsibility of it all! He really doesn't believe in the relationship!

    That's the simple view! Any further than that and we get into politics and power and group control by a few individuals with an extra special view of themselves! With all the publicity and coming up with new light, a person in that position must feel imposed upon! I do wonder how they can ever believe in themselves as being uniquely chosen by god for the salvation of the whole human race. Very odd the more I think about it!

    F fifi40 posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:16:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    Terry

    Two thought provoking threads............have you being overdosing on a fish diet recently

    M Terry posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:23:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    Two thought provoking threads............have you being overdosing on a fish diet recently

    No, just raiding the pantry of old ideas I've tossed out for discussion before. JWD seems to infuse with new people about every six months. Old ones go on to life and new ones enter.

    I thought I'd throw this out and see what the new folks think.

    M Terry posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:34:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    Giving among World Religions and Cults

    The world has many religious views that regard giving as a way to win God’s favor or assuage one’s personal guilt, but Christianity is not one of these. Rather, the Bible measures human giving according to Jesus, the one perfect standard of generosity. Scripture also measures generosity by how much it reflects the giver’s recognition of salvation and gratitude to Christ (Luke 7:47). The table below is neither authoritative nor scientific. Because space does not permit us to include variations in orthodoxy, fervor or practice within each group, this table should serve only as a helpful starting point in your study.


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    Bahá’íHuqúqu’lláh, or the Right of God, is a voluntary payment of 19 percent of accumulated wealth that Bahá’ís make to the Universal House of Justice. 34The fundamental principle of the Bahá’í is the unity and oneness of humanity. Giving helps bring about that oneness by bridging the gap between rich and poor. Beyond the essentials of prayer, meditation and fasting, Bahá’ís view good deeds and service to humanity as the most important elements of spiritual training and progress. 35 “If he is a Bahá’í in reality, his deeds and actions will be decisive proofs of it. What are the requirements? Love for mankind, sincerity toward all, reflecting the oneness of the world of humanity, philanthropy, becoming enkindled with the fire of the love of God, attainment to the knowledge of God and that which is conducive to human welfare.” 36 Contributions are considered a sacred obligation, in order to expand Bahá’í spiritual activities. 37Kitáb-i-Aqdas 97There are 7.1 million Bahá’ís worldwide. 38 Giving is anonymous and conditional on the individual’s conscience. 39 The Bahá’ís have raised large amounts of money to build elaborate temples throughout the world.
    BuddhismAlms, known as the dana, are a completely voluntary contribution made to the gods, nuns and monks. 3 Generosity is the first of 10 virtues that a Buddhist must attain in order to reach enlightenment. 11Giving cultivates purity in the heart of the giver and allows the giver to make progress toward enlightenment. 16 Generosity brings blessings in the afterlife 11 and is motivated out of a concern for others over self. 17 The dana also exists to support the teachers of the dharma 18 and to promote social harmony. 11Dhammapada 224There are 364 million Buddhists in the world who give according to their own individual desires. 1
    ConfucianismConfucianism encourages particular acts of benevolence directed toward known individuals or groups, rather than philanthropic efforts from anonymous donors to distant recipients. 12Philanthropy is motivated out of “specific ethical patterns” and “relational structures” of society. 26 Giving is always to be done in the context of relationships out of a sense of duty and indebtedness and as opposed to the anonymous or altruistic giving that is typical in the West. 27 Generosity is part of cultivating the ultimate virtue of “humaneness” in order to maintain “equilibrium.” 28Analects 1:6; 4:2Japan’s Imperial Relief Association, established by the Confucian Meiji Emperor, contributed 10 million yen in seed money to provide medical assistance to the poor and to encourage contributions from the wealthy. 29 Japan made the largest recorded contributions ($5 million total) to the United Nations during peace-keeping efforts in Cambodia. 30 Presently, there are more than 20,000 private foundations in Japan, but only some 2,000 give grants, and only 250 have assets over $500,000. In 1990 a One Percent Club was established whereby corporate executives in Japan agreed to give 1 percent of their pretax profits and 10 percent of their own salaries to charity. 31
    HinduismAccording to the religious law, known as the dharma, Hindus are required to give the dana and the seva. 19 Hindus are expected to make donations to the poor as well as to their worship temples. 20Leading one’s life according to the dharma is essential for reaching moksha, or salvation. However, the dharma is primarily focused on prescribing what is worth doing in the present life. 21 Fulfilling the
    dharma requires that the wealthy give charitably to those in need, excepting those outside of the caste system, known as the outcastes. 22 These charitable acts aid the person in the quest for nirvana. 23
    Bhagawad Gita 17.20, 17.25There are 824 million Hindi in the world who view wealth as a means for their own individual spiritual progress. 1
    IslamThe third of five pillars of Islam requires Muslims to give the zakah, an annual alms tax of 2.5 percent of their net worth. 24 Sadaqah, or charity beyond the zakah, is also encouraged. 25Muslims do have an overall spiritual commitment to giving as it is one of the five pillars of Islam. Most branches or schools of Islam teach that some level of giving is necessary for salvation, ranging between 2 and 20 percent of annual income. But like many other aspects of Islam, there is great social pressure surrounding the practice giving so that giving may sometimes be less about piety than it is about fulfilling an social obligation to one’s community. 40 Giving zakah and sadaqah also is a way of purifying one’s possessions and attaining righteousness, as well as making provision for the poor. 25The Quran 9:71, 9:103, 9:60, 3:92, 73:20The world has over 1.2 billion Muslims. 1 In 2001, Islamic charities in the United States raised $70 million. 14 Annual income for U.S. Muslims is estimated at $1.5 billion. If American Muslims paid sadaqah at the average rate that most Americans give to charity, in addition to paying zakah, they would give $1.03 billion. 15
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    Members of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society cult are not compelled to tithe, but they are still encouraged to give according to what they have resolved in their own hearts. 32Tithing was a requirement that only applied to Israelites in the Old Testament. Tithing is not necessary for salvation today. Jehovah’s Witnesses encourage “Giving that brings Joy” to support “true worship,” Bible education, and to provide for the material needs of other Jehovah’s Witnesses.New World Translation version of 1 Corinthians 16:2; 2 Corinthians 8:12, 13; 9:6; 1 Timothy 5:8The Watchtower reports that there are 6,304,645 active Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide, who emphasize Bible education work over financial giving. From 1987 to 1989, the mean percentage of income given for Jehovah’s Witnesses was just under 3 percent. 8
    JudaismJews are required to give tzedakah, which traditionally entails giving 10 percent of one’s income to those who are in need. Charity beyond the tzedakah is also encouraged. 13Giving tzedakah is not an act of charity. Rather, it is a matter of obedience. “Some sages have said that tzedakah is the highest of all commandments, equal to all of them combined, and that a person who does not perform tzedakah is equivalent to an idol worshipper.
    Tzedakah is one of the three acts that gain [the giver] forgiveness from [his] sins.” 13 Charity beyond the
    tzedakah is not essential. Lisa Keister notes, “Jewish families encourage this-worldly pursuits including actual accumulation of wealth and other activities that lead to wealth accumulation.” 4
    Maimonides’ Ladder of CharityThere are 14.5 million Jews in the world. 1 In America, contributions from Jewish philanthropists reached nearly $2 billion in 1998. 5
    MormonismOften mistaken for a Christian denomination, the Mormon religious movement expects its members to pay a tithe (10 percent) of their incomes to build up and support the work of the church. 33Tithing is not so much a matter of dollars as it is a matter of faith. It becomes a privilege and an opportunity, not a burden. 33King James Version of Malachi 3:10; The Doctrines and Covenants of the Mormon ChurchUtah, which is over 70 percent Mormon 6 , is the U.S. state with the highest proportion of charitable giving from the wealthy (households with annual gross income of more than $200,000). The IRS reported, “Of the 9,800 Utah filers with adjusted gross incomes of more than $200,000, donations per filer stood at $42,000. Their average assets were $3.2 million.” 7 In 1987-89, Mormons gave almost 7.5 percent of their incomes. 8
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    Giving is encouraged in this liberal Enlightenment-era religious movement but is not compulsory. Giving is guided by the conscience and reason of the individual.Giving to other people empowers them and provides the donor with the opportunity to find meaning by affecting the future through generosity.Stewardship: the Joy of Giving: Stewardship for Adults education curriculumFrom 2002 to 2003, congregations of the Unitarian Universalist Association gave $5,731,096 to their Annual Program Fund. 9 Ten individuals gave over $5,000 each. Over 100 individuals gave between $1,000 and $4,999. 10 The mean percentage of income given for Unitarian-Universalists was under 1 percent, the lowest amount among 23 other religious groups and denominations in America.
    M drew sagan posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:39:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    The first thing I began to question when I started to doubt the Watchtower was field service. I could see that we where just wasting our time, and that giving people magazines simply wasn't effective.

    I think the Watchtower really doesn't want to draw attention to itself. Even though they tell their members they want to reach all people, the leaders really know what section of the population they want to reach with their message (lonely people at home with possibly no social connections). I believe the leaders are happy with 1-5% growth. Anything to big and then they would have to deal with some of the problems larger groups face in the public square. So I think they would rather waste magazines while continue to do things they way they have for the past 70 years rather than move for big drastic change.

    M sacolton posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:45:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    I think it's all about real estate ... they are buying up land and plopping down buildings.

    Does anyone in the WTBTS receive a paycheck? Where does the billions of dollars go? Are Third-World rectangular mud huts expensive to build?

    F horrible life posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:09:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    POWER INVESTMENT!

    REAL ESTATE!

    The Watchtower was a corporate Donald Trump. It could grow dollars and not have to pay taxes on them. It could point to a worldwide work as evidence of money well spent (which wasn't really "spent" at all.) It could account for the cash flow by pointing to new projects in development and new acquisitions ostensibly for more and more publishing effort.

    But, in reality, the goose just kept laying golden eggs in the nest of Governing Body members.

    Now that they are selling off real estate in New York and laying off workers, what will be their next investment? They certainly aren't going to give it to special pioneers, and missionaries!! They will fend for themselves.

    Is there cheaper real estate to invest in? Maybe large tracts of land, to build a commune?? That can't be it, because that would be giving to the rank and file.

    What do you suppose is their next move, with the money they are getting from sales? Is investing in the stock market the same as real estate?

    Is their purpose to pull out completely from New York? Slowly, as to not put a glut of buildings on the market. I have said this before here, Brooklyn as the people of New York know it, will never be the same.

    GOOD BYE AND GOOD RIDDENCE WATCHTOWER!!!!!! DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOUR ASS AS YOU LEAVE!!!!

    F coffee_black posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:09:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    Great post Terry,

    It is truly a money making machine.... If you follow the money...where does it all go? I've been wondering that for a very long time.

    Coffee

    M Burger Time posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:36:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    I believe the guys at the top really believe in what they do. I doubt they have some big evil conspiracy only to make money. If so they would be living in mansions driving BMW's and Mercedes all over Manhattan. I do believe though that they need to maintain what they have accomplished.

    M darth frosty posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:37:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    Sacolton-To answer your question here are two post from people who were at bethel and Know the inside manuvering. The first is from JT.

    ou are correct, the big boys don't benifit from the $951 Millions dollars they take in each year in the manner that most would assume, Homes, Yachts, summer homes, rolex watches, etc- when you compare most big time preachers they LIVE LARGE ---

    The guy who lives down by me he has only 24, 000 members and he has 2 Rolls Royces and flies a LEAR JET , diamond crusted watches and cufflinks and his suits LAY ON HIM- the whole nine yards

    while the big boys benifit from the goodies of the friends--- they usually don't have DIRECT ACCESS TO THE CASH-

    unlike other big time preachers if they QUIT their religion today they have plenty of cash stashed here and there, but the big boys if they got DFed today would be Sh!T up creek instead of having a nice nest egg.

    so that creates a tremendous dependency on the org to stay- my old roommate has moved up the corp ladder and he has admitted all the time that the org has alot of bogus rules, yet he tells me

    "James---- Why Bite the Hand the Feeds you"-

    One of the things that wt carefully did was wrote their by laws in a manner that no one person controls the cash, instead everything is by committee- and now with 5 new corps and everyone is looking to BROWN NOSE and take someones elses place, anyone who would suggest trying to pull something off, would be turned in and the person would feel that they would be recommended for that position for being SO LOYAL TO THE ORG

    Some times I don't think many poster have ANY IDEA OF HOW LOYAL TO THE ORG these guy are by the time they reach the level that they are at and i'm not just talking about GB, but major players in the org- take a look at this list below , these men didn't get to this level by showing any signs of not following orders-

    so yes they do get lots of goodies, but in proportion to the amount of cash they take in they don't get "Jack"

    i recall guys who worked in the offices would be so stingy as if the money was coming out of their pockets

    some of you may know this guy a bethel heavy David Sinclair, his office was right next to Ted Jaraz when they were in brooklyn, he drove an older car, even though he could have access to the New Buicks in the garage, he drove this older car, don't even think it had AC, he dress modestly, but this guy served as a Zone Overseer and was one of the most powerful guys around-

    another guy who worked down the hall from him was Malencant, he was a single guy about 50 , yet he was a power broker to the max, while some bethel heavies were flashy like JR Brown who drives around in a Q45 on $90.00 a month- go figure-- he and larry gramham are ACE BUDDIES--

    FOR THE MOST PART lots of the heavies just LOVE THE POWER AND CONTROL THEY HAVE-

    IN my exp the wealthest guy at bethel ( who at least flashed his cash) was Grant Suitor- he let you know he had cash, but in terms of dipping in the money like the house they had out in CAlifornia or the 12 cylinder Caddies-- those days are over with-

    in my personal exp IT IS THE POWER, MUCH MORE SO THAN THE MONEY

    in fact it starts out for the Male JW just like that, look back in the old days in the 70's how many brothers gave up good damn jobs to be what AN ELDER- think about all the little funky positions that eldrs can get locally that don't pay a dime beyond prestige- CITY OVERSERR

    ASSEMBLY OVERSEER- SUBCO- I THink of all the former bethel buddies i had who are currrentlY SUBCO, they are n limbo- they can't get a regular job cause they have to be avaible at a moment to serve a congo, and they could at anytime get that letter telling them to start the work in sept as a reg CO so for years these guys and their wives make all kinds of sacrifices waiting A FOR THAT DAMN CALL FROM THE SERVICE DEPT TELLING THEM THEY HAVE A CO ASSIGNMENT

    HOW SAD
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/50129/1.ashx


    and your's truly





    Now you may be thinking well that property is needed for the Kingdom halls, bethels, and to further the preaching work, but you need to disect how these properties are used. The heavies and GB at bethel go out on their zone and branch visit's. Wanna know when they go? during the cold winter months in NY. Thats when you can find bro. jaraz down in the carribean bethel. Ever wonder why conventions are held in certain parts of the world during the winter months?

    Its a very subtle abuse of the societies assets but abuse none the less. What will happen if you showed up on the steps of the bethel in brazil?

    F coffee_black posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:47:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    I've never thought that the gb or higher ups are benefiting in a big way in regard to the money. They do have enormous power though. The money is going somewhere, and it's not going to the preaching work. So where is it going? Who is benefiting? This is tax free money...virtually no wages or benefits paid and little to pay for actual product. The percentage of profit has to be staggering.

    Coffee

    heyfea posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:59:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    http://www.freeminds.org/psych/hiddenmessage.htm thank you for condensing some of the article Terry. There is one point that many people do not realize and is that the apostles in their letters to congregations never REALLY emphasized PREACHING work. They encouraged the brothers to have plenty of things to do in the Lord, but didn't that include good deeds instead? Or at least a substantial part of their work in the Lord? Why is it that today the GB NEVER encourages the dubs. to actually do good deeds, TO EVERYONE, not only to those JWs in need. Never a collection, never a food drive, never volunteer work for YMCA, Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc.

    M Terry posted Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:03:00 GMT(2/18/2008)

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    Ever heard of the FOUNDATION FOR NEW ERA PHILANTHROPY?'

    A nice Christian man named Bennett was behind it.

    He went to non-profit corporations and told them the following.

    A small group of anonymous investors wanted to give back to mankind in a way that did not redound to fame and riches for themselves. These anonymous investors wanted to help out charities and non-profits.

    All the non-profit had to do was this. Deposit any sum of money in an interest bearing account with the Foundation for 6 months. Subsequently, the non-profit would receive a check for DOUBLE that amount posted directly from the FOUNDATION for NEW ERA PHILANTHROPY.

    Bennett's credentials were impeccable. Even the Rockefeller Foundation did business with him.

    Scores of non-profits doubled their money time after time into the millions of dollars.

    Bennett was admired, complimented, revered and lauded by Wall Streeters, religious organizations, charities galore.

    Until--

    An auditor at Wheaton College blew the whistle and the Ponzi scheme fell apart.

    Bennett, it turned out had deluded himself into actually believing there were anonymous investors who funded the Foundation.

    Moral of the story?

    Draw your own. (Read about this on Wikipedia. It is fascinating.)

    M Homerovah the Almighty posted Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:11:00 GMT(2/19/2008)

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    The truth is that the WTS. has and always will be a corrupt commercial venture that was deliberately orchestrated with the intension of utilizing and manipulating the belief in

    the Bible to market its published literature. There is nothing spiritual or righteous about that is there, they indeed use mind control techniques on the people that get

    interested in them and eventually get them to promote their sales. To me its just commercialism with a religious flare, thats all.

    Was there a ever a devious attempt to cull and make money for the leaders of this organization you bet there was.

    Was there a deliberate attempt to hide this attention for the peoples eyes, you can surely bet on that too.

    The hidden purpose...............Christainity has stiff competition within its self, but with some aggressive marketing savvy you can pull it off

    So called spiritually empowered men can only bring tragedy and injustice toward humanity when they are being followed as such.

    M Tyrone van leyen posted Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:05:00 GMT(2/19/2008)

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    .An outside body of “apostates” could be created as a target for vilification that served to drain off anger as a target away from the Governing Body itself. This apostate group would feel the brunt of frustrations and not the actual perpetrator's of date-setting fraud.

    I havn't read all the responses yet, but i'd have to say your bang on again. Especially when you veiw from a 30's Racket point of veiw, in keeping with the times. Well done.

    I thought I might add to point number three by saying, that yes, this body of apostates could definately be set as a scapegoat to unify people in their us against them attitude. But..

    The other thing is, the elders themselves who are" puppet judges" probably, are more hated by apostates on a personal level, as opposed to the governing body. This creates a release from tension at a higher level for the Gb as they have neither an ass to kick or a neck to choke. This way the outside anger of apostates is misdirected again. I'm not saying it's not correct to get angry at the elders, but it's a better target than aiming at the elusive GB. They wash their hands of everything.

    Shit is indeed flying everywhere, but it seldom seems to hit where it should. The snakes head. They designed it this way for their own ego gratification, personna of mystique, and for the protection of their own legalized corporation.

    It's like getting angry at the IRS official for making you pay unfair taxes. While the IRS is taking the blows and may be veiwed as unfair, the legislators are not availble for comment or accountablity, the same as cops. They are just cogs in the system of gears.

    Wouldn't it be wonderful to go in and find a big shot, who is really responsible and has power to change things. Drag him across his desk by his effin tie and choke him with it. It might have a profound effect on the implimentation of policy. Just a theory though. Knowing those shitheads, they'd probably change policy by making clip on ties mandatory.

    Some people may call the lives of the governing body, the mystical ways of the elite. I assure you they are very planned and purposeful ways. If you know nothing of them, it is because this evassivenes is well thought out, right down to the clever wording of articles and how they will invest in their new real estate interests.

    To the GB, if you are not part of their corporate solution in advancing their interests and doing their will, you become a corporate problem.

    " No man, no problem!" Those are the words of Joseph Stalin, and these corporate purges have been ongoing since Stalins time. D effin is a legalized death sentence. If you survive it, it can be a great freedom. It is the only loose end the corporation can't deal with. US! The internet, is killing them. What is the next corporate move?

    trudy posted Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:31:00 GMT(2/19/2008)

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    Could be that they scheme to MAKE A NAME FOR THEMSELVES, under the guise of worshiping Yah God? They anoint themselves, (Acts 10:38) made themselves Kings of God's Kingdom, they rule without Christ, and anyone who desires to really follow Christ, they cast out of the congregations, for they make disciples after their own selves ( after their own understanding) ( Matt 23:15 )(Luke 21:8)( Ats 20:30) compare Apostle Paul's words below, evidently this sort of thing happened even before the Apostles left the scene:(1 Corinthians 4:8 ) "Already you are filled; already you have been enriched; you have reigned without us; and I would that you reigned, that *we* also might reign with you." They should have waited upon Christ to say, "Come up here", But they have seated themselves in the highest seat. ( Proverbs 25:7 )( Ps 69:29 )( Is 24:21 )( Micah 1:3 ) Isaiah 40:4 Every valley shall be exalted And every mountain and hill brought low; The crooked places shall be made straight And the rough places smooth" see also Ezekiel 17:24

    trudy posted Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:35:00 GMT(2/19/2008)

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    Could be that they scheme to MAKE A NAME FOR THEMSELVES, under the guise of
    worshiping Yah God? They anoint themselves, (Acts 10:38) made themselves Kings
    of God's Kingdom, they rule without Christ, and anyone who desires to really
    follow Christ, they cast out of the congregations, for they make disciples
    after their own selves ( after their own understanding)
    ( Matt 23:15 )(Luke 21:8)( Ats 20:30)

    compare Apostle Paul's words below, evidently this sort of thing happened
    even before the Apostles
    left the scene:(1 Corinthians 4:8 )
    "Already you are filled; already you have been enriched; you have reigned
    without us; and I would that you reigned, that *we* also might reign with you."

    They should have waited upon Christ to say, "Come up here", But they have seated
    themselves in the highest seat. ( Proverbs 25:7 )( Ps 69:29 )( Is 24:21 )( Micah 1:3 )

    Isaiah 40:4
    Every valley shall be exalted And every mountain and hill brought low; The crooked places
    shall be made straight And the rough places smooth" see also Ezekiel 17:24

    trudy posted Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:40:00 GMT(2/19/2008)

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    Joined 1/16/2002

    opps, sorry about the double posts. My computer froze and so.....shrugs~

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