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    stuckinamovement posted Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:42:58 GMT(7/8/2013)

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    the committee assigned to build the new complex was called into a meeting with the governing body. They were told " you finish this project by January 1 2017. We want the keys to the complex and will be headquartered there by that date, do you understand?"

    when the brothers protested and said that it would take 6 years for the project to be complete and if they moved that fast there would be many mistakes, the GB responded, "we don't care, that is your deadline"

    Apparently the worldly construction company will be brought on to build a large part of the complex. The bros at bethel are wtf is going on?

    This news article seems to confirm the date.

    http://commercialobserver.com/2013/07/rfr-and-kushner-companies-to-acquire-watchtower-dumbo-properties/

    Oubliette posted Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:48:39 GMT(7/8/2013)

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    Great update! Thanks.

    Comatose posted Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:52:24 GMT(7/8/2013)

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    I missed the whole Warwick thing till now. Interesting. Why would they care? Why would they bother selling and building unless they thought they had time? So I guess someone should tell my parents that they have at least three yrs and the end isn't as close as the DC indicated.

    cedars posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:16:18 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    Interesting, thanks SIAM.

    Cedars

    DesirousOfChange posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 13:21:56 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    Is there any similarity in the time frame as stated and that of the suspected timing of the final appeal for the Conti case. I suspect a final verdict on Conti that is unfavorable to the WTS will bring in a flood of new lawsuits. Does the 01/01/2017 window of time give the opportunity to "dispose" of all the assets that are at risk in future cases before they can be seized by a court?

    Follow the money.

    Doc

    M sir82 posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 13:28:50 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    That's really weird - what is so special about that date?

    What's even weirder is that the Soiety is apparently willing to spend actual money to meet this seemingly arbitrary deadline. They'd sooner drink worm milkshakes than spend money, when free labor is available.

    Iown Mylife posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 13:44:34 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    Now you all know Jehovah can speed things up including construction and drying time. When it suits, He can really move things along! Like one minute you're talking to your friend and the next, he hates your guts because you don't think you have to shun someone. Whew! It can boggle your mind, all the things Jehovah chooses to accomplish when He decides to.

    A'course, if something bad happens that's because you did it to yourself.

    Newly Enlightened posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:15:17 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    Interesting. Thanks for the intel.

    whathappened posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:29:17 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    They better get to work. The GB better role up their sleeves and start helping lay the brick. Anyone see that happening? (I bet they never have to vaccuum the Kingdom Hall.)

    M JeffT posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 16:25:22 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    This project probably has nothing to do with lawsuits, as they can't hide assets just by moving them around. It MIGHT make collecting the money harder, but it would be funny if somebody like Candace foreclosed a lein on this place.

    Also 3 1/2 years is not a tough time line if they have their permits in place (and probably impossible if they don't). Having the place built by people that know what they're doing makes sense, and maybe a legal requirement to get permits.

    Vidiot posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 16:36:49 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    stuckinamovement - "Apparently the worldly construction company will be brought on to build a large part of the complex."

    Yeah, this surprised me initially, too, but when I thought about it, I realized that it does kind of make sense.

    The work will definately get done faster by a team of professionals, inspection approval will be streamlined, and NDAs will cover any "unconventional" changes to the design. R&F volunteer labor has no such guarantee for any of those things.

    Plus it might have been an addendum to the "no proselytizing" deal they made with the county.

    sir82 - "What's even weirder is that the Soiety is apparently willing to spend actual money to meet this seemingly arbitrary deadline. They'd sooner drink worm milkshakes than spend money, when free labor is available."

    Why? It ain't their money; they'll just squeeze the R&F for more donations to pay the contractors. Amounts to the same thing as free labor.

    The set-in-stone deadline is interesting...

    ...I can't help but wonder if they want to be comfortably holed up there by the time the Conti Case appeals have reached SCOTUS. The Legal Dept. will have a clearer bead on their chances of winning, and (assuming those chances are low) the subsequent tsunami of lawsuits sure to follow after any precedent is set.

    It's definately a factor in the decision to hire outside construction help.

    BTW, stuckinamovement, how'd you find out about this meeting?

    M Open mind posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:37:07 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    Thanks for the info, SIAM.

    I wonder if there's any possibility that a new Fred Franz has arisen on the GB who has pulled another "1975" version9.5 out of his arse and has gotten a simple majority of the GB to believe his "New Light" on timing of the Big A.

    om

    AndDontCallMeShirley posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:41:00 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    when the brothers protested and said that it would take 6 years for the project to be complete and if they moved that fast there would be many mistakes, the GB responded, "we don't care, that is your deadline"

    --

    I see the GB proceeds with construction projects using the same methodology for concocting "new light" doctrine.

    sosoconfused posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:42:36 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    Vidiot what is this about a "no proselytizing clause"

    Vidiot posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:49:08 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    sosoconfused - "Vidiot what is this about a 'no proselytizing clause'?"

    An earlier thread mentioned something about the GB (or their reps) meeting privately with the Warwick city council and effectively promising not to proselytize in the area in exchange for municipal approval on the complex.

    AndDontCallMeShirley posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:51:22 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    Vidiot what is this about a "no proselytizing clause"

    Instrumental to getting building permits for the project the WT agreed to not do any preaching in the city of Warwick.

    I think there was an article on JWN about this several months ago.

    [edit] you beat me to it Vidiot!

    Londo111 posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:54:00 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    I don't get why they just don't move to Patterson or to the Farm?

    sosoconfused posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:54:03 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    @Vidiot and Shirley - Now that is some serious news. They agreed to not preach in Warwick. I am sure Jesus and Jehovah would be glad to hear about this.

    So Jehovah has total control of the governments but not enough to get them some building permits???? Come on.

    I am going to go see if I can find this article

    Vidiot posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:03:04 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    Londo111 - "I don't get why they just don't move to Patterson or to the Farm?"

    I suspect Patterson ain't big enough for what they wanna do, plus it looks like a f**king penitentiary.

    I don't know much about the "Farm"; is that Walkill?

    sosconfused - "Now that is some serious news."

    Well, you're new.

    After you've been around a while, you'll have learned just how much the WTS will play ball with elements of "Satan's World" to get what they want.

    One of the things that helped my fade, actually; a few years back I came to the inescapable conclusion that, yes indeed, the WTS would absolutely get in bed with them if the Religious Right ever succeeded in their goal of dominating American politics.

    M sir82 posted Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:04:41 GMT(7/9/2013)

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    An earlier thread mentioned something about the GB (or their reps) meeting privately with the Warwick city council and effectively promising not to proselytize in the area in exchange for municipal approval on the complex.

    I'd also like to see any documentation of this.

    If this information got out to the R&F it would cause a HUGE hullabaloo.

    Which is good.....

    Except for when you realize that stuff that should make an even bigger hullabaloo, like thousands of JWs dying from lack of blood transfusions, or thousands of JW child molesters not geting reported to police, or hundreds, possibly thousands of JW suicides....doesn't faze JWs in the least.

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