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Edward Dunlap Talks About The 1980 Witch Hunt At Bethel and The Faithful And Discrete Slave

    M frankiespeakin posted Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:30:54 GMT(4/4/2013)

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETGHbmUUrwg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkGmfQAB2M8

    leaving_quietly posted Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:47:57 GMT(4/4/2013)

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    marking for later

    F jamiebowers posted Thu, 04 Apr 2013 23:38:05 GMT(4/4/2013)

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    Marked

    Balaamsass posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 00:06:54 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    Ed Dunlop and Ray Franz were true Christians. Thanks for sharing.

    Pickler posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:32:07 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    I listened to these, thanks for posting.

    I know it's off topic, but, it really struck me......you listen and it's just...."brothers, brothers, brothers, brothers".......the WTBTS it's just men isn't it?

    So male dominated, in that second recording its like he's talking about a world inhabited by men only, which I suppose spiritually it was.

    but, there were women in the annointed class, but not in the GB.

    Quendi posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:36:04 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    bookmarked

    ÁrbolesdeArabia posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:43:36 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    Where is my Texas friend who introduced me to Ed Dunlap here on JWN? The good looking chap with the Ferrari?

    ÁrbolesdeArabia posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:43:37 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    Where is my Texas friend who introduced me to Ed Dunlap here on JWN? The good looking chap with the Ferrari?

    ÁrbolesdeArabia posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:43:37 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    Where is my Texas friend who introduced me to Ed Dunlap here on JWN? The good looking chap with the Ferrari?

    F FlyingHighNow posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 02:30:46 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    ****

    M Terry posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 02:35:52 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    James Woods is the fellow who USE TO HAVE a Ferarri--he traded it in for an Aston Martin DB9

    ÁrbolesdeArabia posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:50:12 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    How did I get three posts? I don't see any of Jame's posts, did he return back to the Kingdom Hall?

    Iamallcool posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:10:50 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    nope, you are crazy, he ain't coming back to the kingdum hell.

    M Terry posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:36:05 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    What we learn from the tape recording of Ed Dunlap is that it has taken 33 years for the "adjustment" of understanding on "Who is the Faithful and Discreet Slave" to result in recent New Light!

    maisha posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:48:25 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    THE TRUTH about the TRUTH will SET YOU FREE

    M moshe posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 12:09:10 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    James Woods is the fellow who USE TO HAVE a Ferarri--he traded it in for an Aston Martin DB9

    Did the Lord direct him to do that instead of paying 10-20k for the engine out service and new cam shaft belts? We were all praying for spiritual guidance.

    M Terry posted Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:06:16 GMT(4/5/2013)

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    The red telephone on James Woods' desk rang and Jehovah told him it was time for him to get a 12 cylinder auto

    that his wife could ALSO drive!

    Quendi posted Sat, 06 Apr 2013 17:01:31 GMT(4/6/2013)

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    Listening to these recordings cast much light on the workings of the organization over the last forty years. Despite the claims of strictly following Scriptural precedents and “theocratic procedures”, the organization has never in fact done so. From its very beginnings it has been a counterfeit, a man-made substitute for real theocracy.

    But even though this has been the case, I doubt that most of the rank-and-file would agree. Ed Dunlap quotes one former Governing Body member as saying that he actually wanted someone to tell him what to do. I believe that attitude is not only still current among Jehovah’s Witnesses, but is also held by the vast majority in the cult. They have willingly abdicated their individual responsibility to make personal decisions. They no longer have the courage to do so.

    This is very important for those of us who have left to remember. We must not let our love for friends and family persuade us to ‘return to our own vomit’ as it were and entertain the idea of fully reintegrating ourselves. True, some of us have legitimate reasons for wanting to regain association with those we have left behind and we should pursue every avenue, including reinstatement, to achieve this. But once we have, we should never again give strength and support to this cult but fade as quickly as possible. To do otherwise will not help our loved ones but only add to their shackles, chains and bonds.

    Quendi

    Pterist posted Sat, 06 Apr 2013 17:19:50 GMT(4/6/2013)

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    Thanks, Nice to hear brother Dunlop's voice again. I misplaced all his tapes, after 3 house moves over the years.

    Shalom

    M rocketman posted Sat, 06 Apr 2013 21:28:11 GMT(4/6/2013)

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    Interesting. So Brother Dunlap essentially, as Terry already pointed out, had this thing pegged 33 years ago. And now it's becoming official doctrine.

    I will reiterate a post I made 12 days ago to a thread started by Cedars on this topic, and that is that this "new light" actually makes more sense. When I was a teenager, we had an old sister who partook and so was supposedly, back then, a member of the FDS Class. And yet I wondered how that could be the case when she (and thousands like her) never contributed anything in the way of direction or distribution of spirtual food.

    So it's very interesting to find out that Ed Dunlap had that same view. And again, this new understanding makes more sense, even though it is being taken generally in ex-jw circles as a further consolidation of power by the GB. And perhaps indeed it is. Whatever the case, it's actually, in my view (and apparently in Mr. Dunlap's view as well) that this a better interpretation.

    Of course, my main question now is: What took them so long?

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