New Governing Body Member: Hugo Riemer - More WT Revisionist History

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    00DAD posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:10:55 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    As part of the WT's recent push to get the R&F "to study and recount the history of the earthly part of Jehovah’s organization" there is a curious article in the From Our Archives featurette of the August 15th, 2012 Watchtower.

    It offers a highly sanitized version of early JW history. But what is particularly strange is this revisionist history re-categorizing of an early Bible Student/JW, one Hugo Riemer.

    Notice how this man has been promoted to a Governing Body member:

    Beginning about 1894, the Watch Tower Society sent out traveling representatives to meet with groups requesting a visit. Later called pilgrims, these experienced, hardworking menwere selected for having meekness, Bible knowledge, and fine speaking and teaching ability, and for demonstrating fidelity to the ransom. ... After his evening discourse in a school, Hugo Riemer, who later became a member of the Governing Body, answered Bible questions until past midnight. -w2012 8/15, p. 31 - From Our Archives - [Emphasis Added]

    Never heard of Hugo Henry Riemer? I'm not surprised. He was apparently on the Board of Directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania from 1943 until his death in 1965. He also served on the New York corporate board.

    Apparently that now qualifies him to be considered a Governing Body member ... the only problem I have with this is that the Governing Body (note the capital "G" and the capital "B") was not formally established as such until 1971, six years after Mr. Riemer's death!!!

    Note this from JWSurvey.org answering the question Where does the term “Governing Body” come from? :

    ... the term “governing body” does not come from the scriptures at all. Rather it is a secular term that was first employed casually in 1944 to describe the Board of Directors of the Watch Tower Society. However, from 1971 onwards, the term was capitalized, and the new “Governing Body” came to take on a powerful new role as the religious leaders of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    pre-1971 WT Board of Directors

    A rare photo of the pre-1971 Board of Directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. (Left to right) Lyman Swingle, Thomas J. Sullivan, Grant Suiter, (Sec’y.-Treas.), Hugo Reimer, Nathan H. Knorr (President), Fred W. Franz (Vice-President), Milton G. Henschel.

    These guys just get kookier all the time!

    00DAD

    MC RubberMallet posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:17:02 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    Another huge inconsistency they will have to cover...

    M OnTheWayOut posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:18:13 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    I doubt too many will notice that. It's actually huge. They continue to re-write their own history. Probably a preemptive strike to build up their FDS-is-only-the-Governing-Body nonsense. They need there to alway have been a GB.

    minimus posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:33:45 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    So this mean Ray Franz was of The Faithful & Discreet Slave or was he of the Evil Slave?

    M Wasanelder Once posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:46:31 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    Ray was Faithfully evil Minimus.

    minimus posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:49:16 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    Wasa, stop spreading rumors of truth.

    St George of England posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:58:30 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    Funny they never mentioned this fact while he was alive:

    *** jv chap. 26 p. 578 Producing Bible Literature for Use in the Ministry ***
    This failure to get coal was not merely due to wartime shortage. Hugo Riemer, who was then a member of the headquarters staff, later wrote that it was principally because hatred for the Bible Students was so rampant in New York at that time.

    *** w85 6/1 p. 27 How Priceless Your Friendship, O God! ***
    The passing years have been enriched by human relationships with dedicated and devout men who loved Jehovah more than life itself—men such as Judge Rutherford, whom I had the privilege to meet in his home in San Diego, California. It was also my privilege to work side by side with other such men, including Hugo Riemer, Nathan Knorr, Klaus Jensen, John Perry, Bert Cumming, and a host of others who were spiritual giants, “big trees of righteousness.”—Isaiah 61:3.

    *** w65 5/15 p. 320 Announcements ***
    Drawing great consolation from the written Word of “the God of all comfort,” the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society of Pennsylvania announces herewith the death of Brother Hugo H. Riemer on March 31, 1965. After years of service as a pioneer publisher in the field, he was called to the Society’s Brooklyn headquarters in 1918, since which time he served with the Society’s headquarters till his death at eighty-six years of age. He was on the boards of directors of both the Society’s Pennsylvania corporation and its New York corporation, also serving in the official capacity of assistant secretary-treasurer of both corporations. Thus, after his dedication to Jehovah God in 1904, he served for the greater part of his long life in the direct, full-time service of his heavenly Father, as one of the anointed remnant of Christ’s followers. After a funeral service attended by 239 on Saturday morning, April 3, interment of his earthly remains took place at the private burial plot of the Brooklyn Bethel family at Huguenot Park, Staten Island, N.Y. We are happy at his entering into the heavenly happiness spoken of in the promise of Revelation 14:13.

    So he was a member of HQ staff, a big tree of righteousness and on the board of directors plus Secretary-Treasurer. No mention of him being on any Governing Body.

    George

    00DAD posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:09:02 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    St. George: So he was a member of HQ staff, a big tree of righteousness and on the board of directors plus Secretary-Treasurer. No mention of him being on any Governing Body.

    Exactly, as I said, he just got a posthumous promotion ... 47 years too late!

    BTW, thanks for those references.

    00DAD

    sabastious posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:09:09 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    I don't trust bowties and I trust neckties even less.

    -Sab

    minimus posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:13:14 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    Was Thomas J. Sullivan a GB member too?

    00DAD posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:17:33 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    minimus: Was Thomas J. Sullivan a GB member too?

    Probably.

    Apparently they can make anyone they want a GB member and remove whoever they want at will. What really happened is irrelevant. Look, as of the first of the month, Charles Taze Russell, the FOUNDER of this kooky religion, is no longer a member of the FDS.

    Now that I think of it, I'm pretty sure I was a member of the Governing Body once, but it was a very long time ago, and all the old WTs will have had my name purged.

    Search as you will and you'll no longer find any mention of 00DAD in the pages of the WT CD or the new jw.org on-line library. It's like it never, ever happened!

    Spooky ...

    minimus posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:18:29 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    OK, I see Sully was a GB member, so they must've forgot to tell us that old Hugo was one too. Why wouldn't he be?? I think they should've told him, though. (Not that it makes any difference because in the 1960s, they were not viewed as GB members).

    King Solomon posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:24:35 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    So this mean Ray Franz was of The Faithful & Discreet Slave or was he of the Evil Slave?

    From what I've read on the forum, the term FDS refers to the GB collectively when performing their official duties. So that creates ANOTHER problem, since Ray Franz and Olin Moyle were characterized individually as "evil servants", when they're now saying that the body collectively is the "faithful servant".

    That bit of illogic could be side-stepped by explaining that it's like one part of the faithful servant's body decided to "go rogue" (which makes sense, if you think back to Jesus' advice to cut off your hand or gouge out your eye if it stumbles you!).

    minimus posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:29:33 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    So, I'd like to know if they still consider the Dawn Milleniallists as the Evil Slave?

    00DAD posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:32:44 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    King Solomon: the term FDS refers to the GB collectively when performing their official duties. So that creates ANOTHER problem, since Ray Franz and Olin Moyle were characterized individually as "evil servants", when they're now saying that the body collectively is the "faithful servant".

    Good point!

    Actually the application of the FDS to a "collective" group is not new, it's just the re-definition of the term to include ONLY the GB (as a group) to the exclusion of all the [other] anointed ones.

    You bring up another inconsistency (what a surprise!) in WT "Theology" that I've thought about before but not seen addressed here on JWN: If the "Faithful Slave" only, and I mean ONLY, refers to the currently GB designated group de jour as a group, then it would be consistent to apply the "Evil Slave" term in the same way.

    Where is this organized group that comprises the Evil Slave? Hmmmn, they are no where to be found. If the "Evil Slave" is/are individuals then the "Faithful Slave" should be too.

    Once again, we're trying to make sense of nonsense.

    It's a pointless exercise in futility and frustration.

    WT "theology" is a illogical, incoherent, inconsistent hodge-podge of constantly changing contradictory teachings, doctrines, ideas, rules and regulations that somehow are still nonetheless: The Truth.

    What a mess!

    00DAD posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:34:01 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    Next thing you know they'll be saying JWN is the Evil Slave since were "organized" and constantly taking exception to WT "teachings."

    Think about it, no sooner do they publish or declare some new idea or policy and we here on JWN are pointing out all the problems with it, usually before the local elders even know about it!

    They must be really pissed!

    Gorbatchov posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:41:43 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    About the picture of the pre-1971 GB: from Knorr to the right they just look like Himmler (Knorr), Hess (Franz) and Speer (Henschel).

    When you look at the picture you see that the power is at the right side and the no powers are at the left side...

    Gorby

    minimus posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:44:56 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    Where would Chitty or the other male lover be? (I forget his name.)

    Satanus posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:45:37 GMT(10/13/2012)

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    What a bunch of clowns , the gb.

    S

    minimus posted Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:46:29 GMT(10/13/2012)

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