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No more 3-day DCs starting in 2013?

    St George of England posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:35:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    So why do these new CA's have to be on weekends? Yes, I know people work all week (usually) but even that is changing. We have several in our congregation who work weekends on rota.

    Maybe they will guilt people into taking a day off or changing rota and use Fridays or other mid week days; after all people that attend DC's have to take a day off.

    George

    M sir82 posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:45:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    Yeah that would ease the overcrowding, if they had one set on Thursday / Friday and another on Saturday / Sunday.

    And as noted it would ratchet up the guilt level for those assigned to Thursday / Friday - "a true Christian would realize that the benefits from attending these vital spiritual banquets far outweigh the hazards of getting fired in the worst job market in 70 years. Just put the kingdom first - somehow or another Jehovah will provide. Oh by the way, don't forget to max out your credit card on your way out of the assembly hall."

    iclone posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:50:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    Good point SGOE, they could hold two conventions in a weekend. Friday/Saturday and then Sunday/Monday. At this point I still think its speculative as there are no official confirmations yet. I will do some digging out in my part of the world. I know many faithful adherents that will be really dissapointed if this is true. These people will often travel to take in the DC more than once. (gross) These same people have still not come to terms that we lost the weekly book study!

    elderelite posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:53:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    Omt!!!! Generation, you just hit a major major point! Possible mid week "DC" to make maximum use of the halls!!! Damn thats brilliant

    clarity posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 16:07:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    I can see that having DC on weekdays could happen easily .... after all

    When we had 7 day & 4 day assemblies those were mostly weekdays!

    See we are kindly going back to those happifying upbuilding days! Yahoo! OMG!

    >

    Also love this comment " I actually stumbled across some information that wasn't intended for me,

    so I don't want to get ahead of the 'Faithful Slave" !!!!!!!!!

    Ya like that would be hard! lol

    clarity

    Red Piller posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 16:18:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    I really want this to be true. So,I'll believe it. I don't think mid-week days will work. I'm still in and I don't see the level of commitment and sacrifice that existed prior. People just wont go.

    designs posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 16:21:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    DCs are not money makers anymore.

    breakfast of champions posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 16:25:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    Not at all surprising - it is all just a question of numbers. Can the existing Assembly Halls handle that many meetings a year for a given district? How will increased usage affect maintenance of Assembly Halls (bathrooms, septic, AC, heating) I predicted this one (to friends and family) along with end of the Bookstudy and tracts instead of magazines YEARS ago.

    Marvin Shilmer posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 16:31:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    Watchtower sponsored district conventions have always been money making affairs. For decades the primary revenue was gathered under the food service departments at conventions (cafeterias and refreshment stands, for those who remember the days). Those days are long gone.

    It has not passed unnoticed by Watchtower that when Witnesses attend a district convention they tend to make one and only one donation. No matter how many days the convention lasts, they donate only once.

    When Watchtower reduces its 3-day idolatry fest it will do so for economic reasons. They’ll reduce cost and retain the same revenue.

    Marvin Shilmer

    http://marvinshilmer.blogspot

    JakeM2012 posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 16:37:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    I had heard from one quick build worker that they were finishing up the remods on the halls this year. Attention was then to be turned to building assembly halls.

    Many jw's will split the assemblies and conventions up now into sessions or days.

    As far as the money jw's bring into the convention cities is debateable. Other than hotels, many still don't spend much money while at a convention.

    Perhaps they will start having to pay for parking to wt at the assembly halls. Wt has always been upset about how much revenue the parking lots get. Recently, around here they moved the convention at the last minute because the parking lots wanted $2 or $3 more per car for the 3 day convention. Wt moved the convention and the rank and file drove another 45 minutes to some other cheap place.

    Sapphy posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 16:45:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    Oh that's a good point, I can confirm that at the DC I went to nothing was said as usual about loving arrangements in place for next years conventions.

    trebor posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:28:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    Highly doubtful in light of the new brochure ('Who's doing Jehovah's Will Today' or something like that?) their pushing, it specifically mentioned three day district assemblies, no?

    EDIT: Looked over the brochure, "Who Are Doing Jehovah's Will Today?" - Page 11 - "Why Do We Attend Large Assemblies?"

    First paragraph mentions "three-day district convention"...

    This is a brand new release, very doubtful the planning has become that horrible (At least not yet).

    JW GoneBad posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:29:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    WT is going to do away with DCs and thereby lessen debt. WT is going to increase seating capacity at all current and future circuit assembly halls. WT is also going to increase the amount of debit/credit card ATM stations at circuit assembly hall sites for the purpose of increasing revenue.

    I would say that money has more influence on how the WTBTS operates than Holy Spirit!

    M sir82 posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:38:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    This is a brand new release, very doubtful the planning has become that horrible (At least not yet).

    Lately it seems they make some rather sudden & abrupt shifts. A recent KM mentioned how Gilead school still had the purpose of "training missionaries", and they had to send out a letter to the BOEs to correct it when that part of the KM was considered in a service meeting.

    Remember there is a bit (or a bit more than a bit) of rancor between the writing & service departments. It would not surprise me in the writing dept. was the last to know of proposed changes for next year, after they had sent the final content of the new brochure to printing.

    trebor posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:42:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    Lately it seems they make some rather sudden & abrupt shifts. A recent KM mentioned how Gilead school still had the purpose of "training missionaries", and they had to send out a letter to the BOEs to correct it when that part of the KM was considered in a service meeting.

    Remember there is a bit (or a bit more than a bit) of rancor between the writing & service departments. It would not surprise me in the writing dept. was the last to know of proposed changes for next year, after they had sent the final content of the new brochure to printing.

    Good points. I will hold off though until something more "official"...

    I still remember how certain the 'no more CO and/or DO' rumors were...lol.

    M Momma-Tossed-Me posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:45:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    For the love of Momma let this be true.

    redvip2000 posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:55:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    This is a cost saving measure.

    The Org is realizing that if they reduce the lenght of DC's their costs will go down, but more often than not, Jdubs will contribute the same as they always do. It's the same concept with reducing the amount of pages per magazine - reduced cost, but same donation amount.

    This is a typical business decision of big corporations to increase profit. This is why companies reduce the size of their product, often under the disguise of being "concentrated". They know that people will use the same amount regarless and thus pay the same amount for less.

    tresdecu posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:28:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    This is a great rumor..very happifying indeed! I sure hope it's true. But as another mentioned the byebye CO/DO rumer kind of fizzled. The OP seems like he had a conversation from someone who is in the 'know'.

    Just want to keep this bumped, so someone else out there (maybe a high ranking lurker) can join JWD and confirm or deny...come on' just do it.

    Incognito posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:29:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    I believe assemblies/conventions will continue to be shorter in duration as the W/T is running out of things to say and witnesses are tuning-out that which they've already heard 100 times over.

    There had been a prior post where it was mentioned that DC's would soon be held at Assembly Halls. I recall that it was over 1 year ago. I searched but cannot find that thread.

    Perhaps the SAD will be discontinued?? (speculation)

    I too think that the mid-week days might be utilized as DCs had previously been held through the week. As the DCs are generally scheduled during summer months when most people schedule their vacations and children are on school break, W/T would expect JWs to schedule their vacation time when the DC is being held.

    I think another component of utilizing Assembly Halls is the ability to accept digital payments through Debit/Credit machines. Debit/Credit payments may be working so well that income brought in through digital access may be greater than the old cash method. I doubt that implimenting this means of payment is easy within a rented venue, especially when utilizing numerous machines which are decentralized throughout the entire facility. One alternative is cellular data access but this is an additional cost and signal coverage may be probelmatic depending on the venue. If the digital payment machines are already set-up at the assembly halls as I understand they now are, they could be utilized more often at little additional cost.

    exwhyzee posted Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:31:00 GMT(7/9/2012)

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    They could still have a 3 day assembly but shorten each days program and have the assembly in shifts. 7am to noon for one group and a second shift could hear the program from Noon to 4. Or they could have week day programs that require retired persons, weekend workers, unemployed persons or stay at home Mom's/Dads attend them rather than clog up the weekends when people with jobs can only attend.

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