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Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
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Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:33:00 GMT
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Post 116 of 127 Since 7/30/2010 |
Expansion of Wallkill to double in size - why? Warwick property? Here is why it should be - JW Retirement Center for Ministers of the Full-Time Servant Order. There is such a lack of care for retired CO, DO, Missionaries, Special Pioneers without real funds. A Real Retirement Center with care provided and Hospital staff. It will never happen, but if it did, what a change of heart by the GB for the beatup and thrown out full-timers who will never have to die in this old system! Instead of the local cong & circuits and wealthy bros taking care of them - headquarters would have it. Thoughts by others? |
james_woods
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:35:00 GMT
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![]() TexasPost 9150 of 15810 Since 10/26/2005 |
You really have to be kidding yourself if you think they have the slightest notion of doing anything for their rejected elderly full time people. |
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:39:00 GMT
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Post 3531 of 4495 Since 5/13/2009 |
The only ones that get nursing care are the GB and maybe some high ups, the rest could die on the street for all they care. |
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:40:00 GMT
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Post 924 of 3727 Since 12/17/2011 |
No, they expect the family, often non or ex Jw to take care of elderly or sick ones who gave their life for the Corporation for no pay, and ended up with no money or home. Cynical hard-hearted bastards is too polite a label for the GB and the faceless money men behind them. |
undercover
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:43:00 GMT
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![]() Post 13478 of 14261 Since 9/25/2002 |
JW Retirement Center for Ministers of the Full-Time Servant Order.
This would seem more likely:
Annointed Pointe An exclusive golf and country club for Governing Body members of the Jehovah's Witnesses faith.
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:44:00 GMT
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Post 119 of 127 Since 7/30/2010 |
I know - it was put out as a challenge and thought for many of the older ones entering their final years to consider. There is real resentment and bitterness from the group that pushed the theories of never having to die, not raising children, staying single, not re-marrying and giving your estate to WTBTS. With sale of Brooklyn bldgs, downsizing of mags, no subs, credit / debit card machines and other things - a fear of what's next? GB.2 is here and watch out for what is in store! |
OnTheWayOut
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:48:00 GMT
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![]() IllinoisPost 15520 of 17294 Since 9/8/2006 |
There is no real "expansion." Two properties gets new buildings and the Brooklyn facilities lose more working/living spaces than the new ones gain. It's a money thing, selling property that's been renovated by free labor and inflated in value while paying no taxes on it. The new rural properties are lower in value now and buildings can be built with more free labor. The members think they are working for God, the giant printing corporation gets a handsome profit. WIN-WIN. Retirement Center? HA HA! You send those middle-aged Bethelites packing and let them be the burden of their families. They feel they did it for God. WIN-WIN, at least in WTS's rose-colored glasses.
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:51:00 GMT
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![]() Post 13480 of 14261 Since 9/25/2002 |
it was put out as a challenge and thought for many of the older ones entering their final years to consider. It's a noble challenge, to be sure. But this isn't the first generation to pass into old age, without retirement pensions, having skipped raising famililes, staying single, etc. From the early days to now, several generations (real time, not WT fantasy generations) have passed believing the same thing, expecting the same thing as the generation previous. If the WTS didn't give a shit about those already gone, they're not gonna give a shit about those on the way out now. |
james_woods
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:51:00 GMT
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![]() TexasPost 9151 of 15810 Since 10/26/2005 |
No, they expect the family, often non or ex Jw to take care of elderly or sick ones who gave their life for the Corporation for no pay, and ended up with no money or home. And that is after they promised these people that they would never get old or have to face retirement - new system was all the social security they needed. |
wha happened?
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Mon, 09 Apr 2012 23:14:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 7317 of 11285 Since 10/2/2004 |
not unless it was like soylant green. 45 minutes and then you're gone |
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:55:00 GMT
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Post 135 of 242 Since 12/31/2011 |
Just where does all that money go???????? |
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Wed, 11 Apr 2012 05:15:00 GMT
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Post 4720 of 9333 Since 4/26/2011 |
They'll be resurrected into magazine feed stock before that happens.
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:02:00 GMT
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Post 300 of 776 Since 1/13/2012 |
What kind of provisions are made for faithful missionaries, Bethelites,and Traveling Brothers who pursued "real treasure" in Heaven but are currently penniless on Earth? Who is responsible for their quality of life, are they "used and dumped" into the loving care of their "worldly family"? The modest penion they receive, will go far in Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Burma, Mexico, Panama if their health can hold. Who is responsible for taking care of the elderly JWs, the ones who abandoned all other things but Kingdom Interest? The identifying mark of "love" is not suppose to fall short on those who served Jehovah, they should not be saying, "I have no delight". The WT, Awake, Platform preached this fate was for the ones who did not sacrifice their lives to God, again, not the ones who did! This game is well played, pretend you care about the elderly ones, but don't get to close to them, they might, could or will take time away from "Public Witnessing!" Remember howcharity to involve yourself other than preaching, teaching or serving the high level ones, it waste precious time that could be spent preaching! Depressed sisters are not a good investment of time, they are a "sunk cost" and it's wasteful to pour your good solid resources (Time to find new younger ones) on these black holes of emotion and time. All efforts are the "slight of hands" trick, distract the eyes to avoid seeing members who are hurting in the group, by propping up the All Stars whose light will block the spiritually weak ones. |
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:13:00 GMT
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Post 40 of 394 Since 7/18/2011 |
Quite clearly they should have COUNTED THE COST before offering themselves for service, if they didnt count the cost then they were not serving the god of love properly. |
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:45:00 GMT
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Post 10229 of 16416 Since 6/17/2009 |
Its a wonder Paul Ryan hasn't been offered a position of the Governing Body. |
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:57:00 GMT
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Post 552 of 1184 Since 9/24/2010 |
The society could have linked assisted living residences to assembly halls (ie same property same building time, volunteers etc) and specify that the funds that are generated from the assembly hall pay for or offset the old age home. Handled correctly they might have even turned a small profit. They certainly had the buildings in Brooklyn to handle the aged, the poor and the ill. But no that wasn't the plan that concept was way to christian. They could have converted bethals that are being closed into facilities......but no that's not in the plans. If I was a witness reading these posts I'd be red faced with embarassment. The WT is a money grubbing corporation who's few good deeds are offset by a complete lack of responsibilitytowards their human resources. My advice......get out of this dreadful organization and start planning for your old age. |
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:03:00 GMT
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Post 10231 of 16416 Since 6/17/2009 |
For all of their money-hungry pleadings they miss a good business sitting right under their noses Senior Living Centers. |
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:39:00 GMT
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Post 106 of 1030 Since 3/12/2012 |
Designs, you're right. They could make that into a business. I think it's so sad that they treat those people so badly after they have given their lives to the organization. I guess they don't even have any Social Security to fall back on. The so called F/DS-GB has no feeling or love for the flock. |
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Re: Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
posted Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:00:00 GMT
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Post 107 of 1030 Since 3/12/2012 |
Quite clearly they should have COUNTED THE COST before offering themselves for service, if they didnt count the cost then they were not serving the god of love properly. Maisha , these poor souls believed that the "NEW ORDER" would come in their lifetime and they would have all their needs met. They did not expect to grow old and weak in this "System of Things." Remember? The end was supposed to come in 1975; about 35 years ago! Who would have thought the GB/F&DS didn't know what the heck they were talking about. Thank goodness some of us had the brains to figure it out and get out while we could still make plans for the future. The organization owes them something, but hell will freeze over before they get any help for the GB/F&DSLAVERS! |


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