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what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
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what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:21:00 GMT
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Post 3012 of 3904 Since 11/12/2009 |
It's almost like there are so many little things that add up to a lot, a lot of evidence that the WT selectivly presents its history, and even attempts to re-write it at times. But if you had to choose just one item to prove your point, what would it be? Oz |
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Re: what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:37:00 GMT
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Post 10110 of 16159 Since 6/17/2009 |
'Bible Students as Jehovah's Witnesses were once called' |
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Re: what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:40:00 GMT
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Post 1426 of 2063 Since 3/22/2010 |
Jesus came to power in 1914. Until 1943 they believed he came to power in 1874. Not many JW's know that and the WTS are not actively promoting it. George
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Re: what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:50:00 GMT
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Post 1795 of 2240 Since 3/30/2010 |
The 'trumpet blast assemblies in the 1920's- never happened, as the world was supposed to end in 1925- right in the middle of those assemblies! You can have one; or the other- but not both! My thread here: |
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Re: what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:28:00 GMT
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Post 5174 of 3408 Since 7/22/2009 |
all of it |
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Re: what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:55:00 GMT
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Post 859 of 3825 Since 12/17/2011 |
I don't know what to pick really, some are so small, seemingly that they wouldn't qualify as "all time best" examples, but the hidden ageda behind the deceit is fascinating. Take the claim, on their official Web site as I write, that C.T Russell was the first President of the WT. Sloppy research by the writer ? I doubt that very much, they have made the claim for too many years, so why hide who was the first President ? Because he left in no time over major doctrinal matters, and they obviously want to hide the fact that discord, disputations and schisms have dogged the Society from its inception. As to what I consider to be an amazing example of selective history is the changing of what actually appeared in the Watchtower or Awake magazines when they produced the Bound Volumes, that must have taken huge effort, with special print runs etc. and is so so dishonest ! Some mind-controlled JW's do not see it that way, but they are wrong, it is a sly deceit to confuse those trying to find the history, and for no other purpose. |
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Re: what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 17:04:00 GMT
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Post 3 of 897 Since 3/25/2012 |
One that comes to mind for me was related as an experience at last years (or the year before) DC. I think it may have been the public talk. The experience was of a brother just released from a concentration camp near the end of WWII. He runs into a fleeing German official. The German says something like: 'So what now, since the Nazi empire is collapsing? (Said as if JWs thought that would not happen.) The JW responds that they always knew that Germany would lose the war. At this point the speaker (no doubt sticking closely with his manuscript or outline) points out how the "faithful slave" was on top of things all the time - that is, they knew Germany would lose the war. The real history follows: In the late thirties, JF Rutherford gave a talk at Albert Hall in London (?) called "Face the Facts." In the talk he urges US and Great Britian not to oppose the Nazis since a Nazi victory was Scripturally certain. This would be followed immediately by God's Kingdom bringing Armageddon. The allied leaders would be better off trusting in God's Kingdom. This talk was then published as a booklet called "Face The Facts" for the next several years. After that, around 1940, the Society published another booklet called "The End of the Axis Powers." (?) In it, it was said that the Axis and Allied powers would fight to a draw, then God's Kingdom would wipe out both powers at Armageddon. Then in September 1942 came the "Peace - Can It Last." There it was predicted that the Allied powers would win, soon followed by Armageddon. So, it didn't matter how the war ended. The Society -with their usual great insight - had predicted it! As an aside, the actual conversation between the Nazi and the JW may be accurate. The JW may have been in a camp and only heard the most recent WT rantings. Whereas, the German may have heard the "Face the Facts" material but then got too busy with the war to keep up with the Society's latest. As an additionsl aside, the Society's predictions actually followed after major turning points in the war. "Face the Facts came out while Germany was subdueing continental Europe, but before the Battle of Britain. "The End of the Axis Powers" came out after the Battle of Britain was lost by Germany, thus blunting their westward movement. "Peace - Can It Last" came out after the German push into Russia had been stopped and after Japan lost two major sea battles in the Pacific. One thing I learned from this experience is that the Society does read the newspapers.
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james_woods
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Re: what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 17:11:00 GMT
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![]() TexasPost 8930 of 13560 Since 10/26/2005 |
Like everybody says - so many things were covered up. I think my biggest example would be the cloud of smoke raised over the whole lifetime of J.F.Rutherford and his leadership of the JWs - given what we actually know now about this sorry excuse for a man. |
heathen
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Re: what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 18:29:00 GMT
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![]() TexasPost 8077 of 8323 Since 4/13/2001 |
The old ,"millions now living will never die". identifying the Great Crowd , all that nonsense is cleverly covered up . Now they even changed the generation that does not pass away to be overlapping and not the generation of 1914 where they would DF any one that tried to correct them . Really screwed up cult there. |
thetrueone
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Re: what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 18:40:00 GMT
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![]() British ColumbiaPost 5836 of 5958 Since 9/18/2006 |
Since the WTS. is such a fraudulent commercialized false prophet, there many circumstances one could point out. The selective year professed by the JWS of 1914, even prior to that year occurring by the IBSA and further on by the JWS under J Rutherford. It really had no biblical significance other than it was used a marketing devise to attract the publics attention., which unfortunately it did. That year was fraudulently masked over many times and will continue to be masked over as time progresses. Selective history by the WTS/JWs comes in as a vehicle of self supporting propaganda for this corrupt publishing organization.
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Re: what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:29:00 GMT
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Post 448 of 1224 Since 2/3/2012 |
Fall of Babylon. They say 607 and evidence says 587. Must be nice to ignore proven history.
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Shawn10538
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Re: what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:38:00 GMT
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CaliforniaPost 1174 of 1334 Since 11/8/2005 |
Gotta be the 1914 thing. That was huge for me. I didn't know about it until like 2002 or something. |
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Re: what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:46:00 GMT
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Post 172 of 573 Since 2/21/2012 |
Why was the Watchtower annual report wrong in 2011?
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Because of all the false prophets.
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Re: what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?
posted Mon, 02 Apr 2012 23:08:00 GMT
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Post 295 of 501 Since 4/25/2010 |
“At times explanations given by Jehovah’s visible organization have shown adjustmentsA, seemingly to previous points of view. But this has not actually been the case.” The Watchtower (WT), 1981, 12/1 p. 27
Resurrection of Sodomites? YesWT 1879 p 7, 8 NoWT 1952 p 335 YesWT 1965 p 87, 88 NoWT 1967 p 409 YesAwake! 1974 p 20 NoWT 1988 Jun 1 p 31 YesInsight V1 p 616 (Jun 17, 1988) NoWT 2005 7/15 p 31 Sw |


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