How Come I Rarely See People In Field Service, Vs The 1980-1990s Doing House2House?

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    Bubblegum Apotheosis posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 07:51:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    Field Service hours have hit new records each year, but I am seeing less people working the territory. Where is all the time spent, that people are putting in the Field Ministry? It's been close to ten years, since I have seen people working certain territories. Where do you think all the time is spent, do you see JWs out in force, the way the past "generation" hit the House2House ministry? Are they counting "drive bys" as time?

    A bit more of a qualification, there are territories where people don't see JWs, even though it's claimed the territory is worked every three months. One householder told me, "I have not seen you people for years, I thought you quit!"

    biometrics posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:18:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    Becaues they're now more creative with how they go witnessing. Bible study with family, email, commenting on You Tube ... all make up hours in the ministry.

    Wizard of Oz posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:20:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    I've also noticed this BA and many friends have asked if they have given up as well.

    Before we split in mid90's my wife told me that there would come a time when the field service would come to an end and when that happened I would have to make my own way to the KH, as by that time time would be very very short.

    She also told me that I was the devil incarnate.

    I haven't seen a proclamation the big A is happening tomorrow though.

    Iamallcool posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:26:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    more houses are being built, population is growing way faster so JWs that cannot keep it up like they did in the 1980-1990s. Thats my answer.

    Phizzy posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:42:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    Not in my area Lama, I live in a rural area where building is strictly controlled, so we have had few new dwellings in my old Congregation's territory, and there are more active JW's, moved in mostly, but more of the buggers.

    Not so many years ago they got round the whole area in 3 months , now it is 9 months, without doubt here there has been a slow down, quite what it is due to I don't know, they couldn't possibly have started walking any slower than they did !

    I would guess that it is a lack of enthusiasm, perhaps some have stopped pioneering, and just maybe they have been exhorted to actually engage householders in a proper conversation ? nah, probably not. Not many of 'em capable of that.

    Bubblegum Apotheosis posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:11:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    The House2House was the trademark of JWs, not Youtube videos. It's hard to find cargroups that want to work the door2door, instead time is spent

    wasting time, being as inefficient as possible (Pioneer Shuffle) and avoiding talking to people. It can be a challenge to find a volunteer for a part, one

    who "had a good experience talking with a householder" so, we have to create experiences from a different time period. Back to the main thought, I don't see them out, like

    they use to be, with steel toed boots, big bookbags and a zealous smile. The more you beat a dog, the slower it responds to your voice, the constant

    call for relentless preachers, is falling upon deaf ears?

    biometrics posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:41:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    How about this theory. The sprit directs Jehovah's Witnesses to avoid apostates, and thust you never see them.

    MMXIV posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:43:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    They did my road on Saturday, I was driving home and saw a group of maybe 8 or 10, mostly teenage girls standing on the corner. They finished the long road 20 minutes later so clearly no-one was interested. It's the first time in years I've seen them though. I used to get mormons call more frequently or charity workers wanting donations which is probably quite unusual for the UK.

    In my old territory we used to cover it consistently every 6-9 months for 20 years, however given that not homes were done twice, it might have seemed as though we called every few months.

    mmxiv

    bats in the belfry posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:54:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    Field service it is going the way of prophetic fulfillments in general: More and more invisible.

    M ohiocowboy posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:07:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    I think that part of the reason is that JW's are really worn out, and they are only going through the motions so as not to appear "Weak". I hear that many of them are on antidepressants too which only causes them to not feel, but rather just trudge along. Very sad. I make it a point to not "Hate" JW's (unless they are child abusers, etc), rather I feel very sorry for them as they are so misguided. The WTBTS is a different animal altogether...

    Alfred posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:54:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    When I stopped going to Field Service in early 2010, the service overseer would approach me with something like: "Alfred, are you sure you didn't have at least one conversation with someone at work about Jehovah??? You may not know this yet but all you need is 15 minutes and we won't need to mark you down as IRREGULAR."

    I'd say: "Yes brother Worried-About-The CO's-Visit-Next-Month, I'm 100% sure... I have no hours to report at all."

    He would then look down in dissapointment and his mind would start to race... but before he could think of anything else to say, I'd be long gone...

    cantleave posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:02:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    My wife, who works from home, pointed this out the other day. She stated that she has not seen JW's in our area for over 2 years. Admittedly, we are in a relatively rural area, but it used to be worked at least three times a year.

    breakfast of champions posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:37:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    Starbuck's

    iamwhoiam posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:16:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    All the witnesses are mostly made up of older ones...they can't walk door to door anymore and all they do is RVs (magazine routes) they have been doing for the last 10 years. Even though the people they call on have no intention of becoming a witness. Plus, if they do get territory, they don't usually do more than 5 to 10 houses at one time before they go on break...followed by RVs

    All the young witnesses don't want to go out in service unless thier older family members drag them out or are guilted into it. Then they have to ride along with the older ones who do nothing but RVs.

    Only the 2-4 pioneer sisters in each hall are the ones working territory.

    Im am just guessing on all of this..but it has a ring of truth to it.

    ssn587 posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:30:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    I believe it like Christs supposed invisible coming in 1874 er 1914 or whenever it's invisible and like that they do their house to house invisibly. Count your blessings with them coming less and less or as it seems in my neighborhood not at all thats one of those invisible blessings. Really it must be like the supposed love in the congregation H-H doesn't really exist.

    Amelia Ashton posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:18:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    I have lived here for 3 years now and have never once had witnesses knock on my door or post a tract etc through the letter box.

    We regularly get Mormons and chuggers so not sure what their excuse is.

    WTWizard posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:22:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    The last time I saw the witlesses out in field circus was one crisp fall morning in 2009. I was pedaling to the bank and saw a couple of witlesses going to the door. When I returned, they were elsewhere in the territory. They didn't seem to be moving all that fast--but I was, once I thought they might be witlesses (when I see them, I speed up so they don't get enough time to do anything).

    Aside the fake time slips and wasting their time warming up, taking coffee breaks, and doing street work or working at bookstores where they are browsing for books (and the return visit there, where I made a return visit and picked up the Excitotoxins book I saw while there the first time), I wonder if they are dogging it. Going online and posting comments is one way--if they nurf the RAM enough, the computer will be slow as hell, allowing them to count even more time while waiting for it to post.

    I also wonder if that means they are doing more missionary work, whether in their country "where the need is greater" or in foreign countries. I have been noticing that, while studies are coming down in developed countries, Nigeria seems to be having an awful lot of studies in recent years.

    F mrsjones5 posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:33:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    "How about this theory. The sprit directs Jehovah's Witnesses to avoid apostates, and thust you never see them."

    If that true I'd never see my parents.

    highdose posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:18:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    by the time i left it had become socail acceptable within the cong to fake your hours. One elder even advised me to do so , saying that he did that himself!

    the magazines are embarssing these days and hopelessly out of touch. the GB has no idea what is going on in the heads of their younger ones. most of them are only in for two reasons]

    A) the stranglehold of loosing your entire socail circle and family

    B) loosing the carrot of the paradise

    M wha happened? posted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:33:00 GMT(2/28/2012)

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    I rarely see the English Cong out in service. Rarely. From the late 80's when I 1st studies, through the 90's I would see them every weekend in some part of the Westside of Los Angeles. Now it's been years since they have knocked on my door.

    Spanish congregation I do see on occasion

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