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BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
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BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:20:00 GMT
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Post 1658 of 5851 Since 7/29/2011 |
I know this has been dished over before, but when I was doing some research I discovered a couple of interesting points. As far as I can find, there is only ONE WT article that implies that JW men should not have beards. Here it is: *** w75 8/15 pp. 500-501 par. 9 - Do Not Let Yourself Be Ensnared by Fads and Entertainment *** Extreme hair styles can easily lead one into a trap of the Devil also, and cause others to stumble. For example, a young man in the United States was making fine progress in his study of the Bible, and he was moved to share with an experienced Witness in preaching to others about the good things he was learning from the Bible. From early youth he had let his beard grow, and since some in the business community wore beards, he felt that his wearing one in preaching to others would be acceptable generally. But in speaking to a lady he was unable to do more than introduce himself, when she said:
No amount of explanation after this sufficed to clear up the misimpression. After the conversation ended with the closing of the door, he asked the experienced Witness what had happened. He was invited to consider his appearance in relation to what he claimed to be, a servant of God. Not wanting to be responsible for even one person’s being stumbled so as to miss the way to everlasting life, this new Kingdom publisher shaved off his beard. Would you be willing to do the same or to make similar adjustments if your appearance gave the wrong impression in a certain community? - Emphasis added So, let me get this straight: it's all because some un-named lady sometime back in the '70s or sometime earlier from "a certain [un-named] community" in some undisclosed location somewhere in the United States had the opinion that any young man with a beard would try to persuade her "to become involved in student revolt" JWs all across the world can't have beards! Well that seems perfectly reasonable to me! I wonder whatever happened to that lady? Do you think she knew she was making Theocratic Doctrine? She must've been one of the anointed, a member of the "Faithful & Discreet Slave" class, no doubt!!! Hmmmm, ...
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:24:00 GMT
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Post 966 of 1470 Since 3/30/2010 |
Wow! I never knew about that article! Thanks for sharing that nonsense 00Dad. LOL CoC |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:25:00 GMT
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:26:00 GMT
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Post 1659 of 5851 Since 7/29/2011 |
While we're on the subject, let me add this little tidbit:
*** g00 1/22 p. 24 - A Close Shave *** "The clean-shaven look continued through the 18th century. But then, by the mid-to-late 19th century, the pendulum began to swing the other way. Hence, photographs of C. T. Russell, the first president of the Watch Tower Society, and fellow Christian W. E. Van Amburgh show both men wearing stylish, well-trimmed beards that were dignified and appropriate for their time." - Emphasis added
Certainly "stylish" is subjective and changes from time-to-time, but I can't ever imagine anybody considering this beard to be "well-trimmed". That's just silly!!! And what about that hair while we're at it!!!
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:26:00 GMT
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Post 1973 of 4015 Since 11/24/2010 |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:31:00 GMT
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Post 1660 of 5851 Since 7/29/2011 |
Blondie, thanks for the additional references. They didn't come up when I searched the Publications Index on the 2008 WT Library (the last one I had). Still, none really explicitly state: Thou Shalt Not Have a Beard! But the implications are obvious to anyone wanting to "please Jehovah" (READ: Please the local elders). 00DAD |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:33:00 GMT
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![]() Post 13342 of 14261 Since 9/25/2002 |
I remember the 75 article. That was the go-to article when I was young. Only beatniks, hippies and revolutionairies had beards. Decent, fine, upstanding folk were clean shaven and had one of five haircut choices from the barber shop. |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:33:00 GMT
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Post 1661 of 5851 Since 7/29/2011 |
Now this one I like:
W. E. Van Amburgh wearing a stylish, well-trimmed beard that is dignified |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:37:00 GMT
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Post 259 of 1528 Since 12/17/2011 |
We've got a bro.. an MS in our cong who has a beard and an elder from another cong gave a public talk not long ago.. but then I guess it's a bit different in europe... |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:42:00 GMT
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Post 1662 of 5851 Since 7/29/2011 |
Yes I've heard it's different in Europe! It's an interesting study in human psychology and manipulation that the WT can make a few statements that, although they carefully avoid explicitly prohibiting something like wearing of beards, clearly imply that anyone not getting the "hint" is not a spiritual person. Then, the next thing you know the local elders turn it into a law and "voila!" it's officially an "unofficial" doctrine/policy of the WTBTS! We humans really are strange things. |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:03:00 GMT
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Post 34 of 319 Since 2/7/2012 |
When I was going to meetings regularly I wore a Goatee. It was great cause the Elder's were scared shitless of aproaching me and I wasn't ever given any "Privilege's" Awesome Also I've noticed that in some WT's mags, the "Worldly Guy" who was dipicted as immoral or materialistic... whatever (basically the Bad guy) would many times be shown wearing a beard or goatee. The whole thing is just to keep mental and physical Conformity within the group. Just another example of the Borg trying to use control tactics. |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:08:00 GMT
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Post 1663 of 5851 Since 7/29/2011 |
Zordino, it's good to know that the elders were scared of you because you had a goatee, although it's equally hard to figure WHY? But, whatever. I'll keep mine, it's my new secret weapon against JWs everywhere!
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:12:00 GMT
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Post 437 of 643 Since 11/9/2010 |
Their stand on beards is yet further evidence that the JW religion contains man-made rules, just like any other religion does. Their downer on beards is found even in countries where it is customary for all men to wear beards - such as Papua New Guinea (a country in which I recently lived for a total of eight years, and thus had ample opportunity in which to observe 1. what is local custom, and 2. what the WTS stand was.) This beardless culture would have more to do with Rutherford's attempts to emphasize that he was now in charge - not C.T. Russell, than it had to do with any imagined "Student Revolt." Bill.
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:21:00 GMT
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Post 35 of 319 Since 2/7/2012 |
OODAD: I'm 260 pounds 6Ft tall with a tough guy Look (I do Concrete Forming for buildings) and didn't give the Elder's the time of day. Maybe thats why they were a little intimidated by me. |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:37:00 GMT
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Post 1664 of 5851 Since 7/29/2011 |
So Zordino, you're telling me that it's not JUST the goatee, that I need to grow 2 inches and add 85 lbs. (presumably of muscle) to be as intimidating as the mighty Zordino! Damn, I thought I had something there. I bow to your awesomeness. I think I'll go buy a Sig Sauer, it's healthier ... for me at least! .. lol 00DAD |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:52:00 GMT
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Post 436 of 566 Since 4/27/2009 |
I had a goatee for some time never did shave, now don't even attend the brainwashing sessions. but no one ever said anything anyway, guess I didn't give a s**t one way or the other what they thought, i was happy with it and wore it and still do. |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:37:00 GMT
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Post 9387 of 16342 Since 6/17/2009 |
Just trimmed mine back from full ZZTop to ZTop. |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:19:00 GMT
(2/23/2012)
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Post 36 of 319 Since 2/7/2012 |
OODAD, Its not just muscle. There's a Lot of Fat too LoL. Kinda Like a Big a Big Teddy Bear |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:48:00 GMT
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Post 265 of 331 Since 1/27/2011 |
Based on those articles, I keep imagining people like this:
If they have a beard like the one below, I seriously doubt that in this day and age, people would be so repulsed by a person that they refuse to listen or acknowlege them. ...or that they are in some way "undignified".
COME ON PEOPLE! You know it's bad when even Disney allows neat beards!!!! |
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Re: BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them
posted Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:43:00 GMT
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Post 245 of 525 Since 1/15/2012 |
It's simple I sold door to door insurance for a while and was told you will sell a lot more if you don't have a beard. So no matter how the spin is, it is all a marketing ploy to place more rags. |


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