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How do Jehovah’s Witnesses arrive at their explanation of the Bible?

    mankkeli posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:26:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    This explanation was taken from the reasoning book, page 204.

    How do Jehovah’s Witnesses arrive at their explanation of the Bible?

    A key factor is that the Witnesses really believe that the Bible is God’s Word and that what it contains is there for our instruction. (2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 10:11) So they do not resort to philosophical arguments to evade its clear statements of truth or to justify the way of life of people who have abandoned its moral standards.

    In pointing out the meaning of symbolic language in the Bible, they let the Bible provide its own explanation, instead of giving their theories as to its significance. (1 Cor. 2:13) Indications as to the meaning of symbolic terms are usually found in other parts of the Bible. (As an example, see Revelation 21:1; then, regarding the meaning of “sea,” read Isaiah 57:20. To identify “the Lamb” referred to in Revelation 14:1, see John 1:29 and 1 Peter 1:19.)

    As for fulfillment of prophecy, they apply what Jesus said about being alert to events that correspond to what was foretold. (Luke 21:29-31; compare 2 Peter 1:16-19.) Conscientiously they point out those events and draw attention to what the Bible indicates they mean.

    Jesus said that he would have on earth a “faithful and discreet slave” (his anointed followers viewed as a group), through which agency he would provide spiritual food to those making up the household of faith. (Matt. 24:45-47) Jehovah’s Witnesses recognize that arrangement. As was true of first-century Christians, they look to the governing body of that “slave” class to resolve difficult questions—not on the basis of human wisdom, but by drawing on their knowledge of God’s Word and his dealings with his servants, and with the help of God’s spirit, for which they earnestly pray.—Acts 15:1-29; 16:4, 5.

    N.drew posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:33:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    When I began to have doubts of the understanding JWs have of the Bible and the scripture at Matthew 24:45 I voiced my concern. OK. But everyone who I tried to warn would say look up (whatever) the Governing Body deems necessary to know, and you will understand. Say WHAT? Let's try this from a different angle. I don't trust them! Answer? Did you read the Proclaimers Book? Ya, but, it's them who wrote it. Thus it was really me who also thought OMG Borg.

    ps I know it wasn't me who first called the The Borg. And I had come to my conclusions about their error before I ever saw an opposing web sight.

    M james_woods posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:41:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    I thought the troll was gone after that hate thread he made about OUTLAW...

    mankkeli posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:48:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    james_woods - Warriors never shiver

    tec posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:01:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    A key factor is that the Witnesses really believe that the Bible is God’s Word

    Well, there's a problem right there. Christ is the Word of God. Not the bible.

    But in any case, the witnesses do not allow the Bible to provide its own e x planation. Or they would never have come up with Jesus being the Archangel Michael. They have come up with a 'theory' to assert that (as well as other things) There is even less 'evidence' as to that, as there is to Jesus is God.

    Peace,

    Tammy

    M Terry posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:09:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    1.Maria, wife of Pastor Russell, came up with the Faithful and Discreet Slave nonsense which proved useful to her husband, but, extremely useful to Judge Rutherford.

    2.The bogus belief that it was God's "due time" has had proven results: all of them contradicting what JW's warned of in advance.

    3.Cherry picking, partial quotes, context dropping, quote mining, exaggeration and misdirection are the foundational strategies.

    In the 15 July 1906 issue of the Watch Tower Russell stated that Maria was the first who in 1894 "called attention to Matt. 24:44-45, applying it to me at a meeting at Allegheny and in another meeting with the New York Church. I demurred that I had not thought of the passage thus, and declined to make any personal application of it, although I could not deny the force of the argument....I urged great moderation in the making of any personal application" (p. R3811). Yet in the same issue Russell declares himself (with professed humility) to be "God's mouthpiece" with the unique role of disseminating God's truths as his "agent":

    "I claim nothing of superiority, nor supernatural power, 'dignity or authority; nor do I aspire to exalt myself in the estimation of mv brethren of the household of faith....No, the truths I present, as God’s mouthpiece, were not revealed in visions or dreams, nor by God's audible voice, nor all at once, but gradually, especially since 1870, and particularly since 1880. Neither is this clear unfolding of truth due to any human ingenuity or acuteness of perception, but to the simple fact that God’s due time has come; and if I did not speak, and no other agent could be found, the very stones would cry out" (p. R3822).

    mankkeli posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:11:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    tec - Where is christ nowadays if he claims to be the word of God?

    M james_woods posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:13:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    james_woods - Warriors never shiver

    Actually, they do shiver when cold - but more to the point, trolls never shut up.

    tec posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:16:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    He is alive in Spirit, for one. He is with His Father. He is with those who belong to Him (as part of his body) as well. He listens; speaks; teaches; mediates ("No one comes to the Father, e x cept through the Son"); guides.

    Peace,

    Tammy

    tec posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:18:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    Mankelli, even the bible says that Christ is the Word of God. It does not say that about itself.

    N.drew posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:19:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    @Where is christ nowadays if he claims to be the word of God ?

    John 5:31-38.

    mankkeli posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:54:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    tec - Your explanation is confusing, how could christ be with the father and at thesame time be with those who belong to him?. That sounds philsophical

    tec posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:18:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    Through the spirit. If we have part of that spirit (if the spirit dwells within us), then we are connected. One.

    Besides, sometimes I am with my husband. Sometimes I am with my son. Sometimes I am with co-workers. Just not necessarily at the same time. Although, if we're all on the internet talking, then we're together and apart at the same time.

    Peace,

    Tammy

    GLTirebiter posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:26:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    Your explanation is confusing, [sic] how could christ be with the father and at thesame [sic] time be with those who belong to him?. [sic]

    If Christ was only a human being with only a human nature, then that question would be meaningful. But Christ is a spiritual being with a divine nature, existing beyond the realm that we call space and time. He is simultaneously everywhere, while being no place in particular. The divine is not part of the universe; the universe is part of the divine. Not only can Christ be with the Father and all who belong to him, from the Christian viewpoint it could be no other way!

    (edited to quote Matthew 28:19-20)

    "Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age."

    N.drew posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:26:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    Can it be that 2 John verse 7 means the resurrected Christ? The traditional interpretation and one that Jehovah's Witnesses teach is it means the man Jesus. The previous verse says "go on walking in the commandment" (of love). How? By the resurrected Christ. In spirit. His spirit with our flesh. How else would we know the will of God? Confessing Jaheshua coming in the flesh means knowing the way, because he is with us. In a sense in us. And if it is true, meaning the spirit, not the man, then they are the antichrist. Because we need Christ in us, they say no, Christ is over them, not in them.

    M thetrueone posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:49:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    How do Jehovah’s Witnesses arrive at their explanation of the Bible?

    The same way every other religious sect does , whatever interpretation they want to use to self identify and apply to themselves.

    The Jehovah's Witnesses are not what they have self described themselves to be, rather they are in reality witnesses

    and subjective proclaimers of the Watchtower Corporation's own doctrines, there is a defining difference.

    The JWS have been indoctrinated by a publishing house (WTS.) by extrapolating certain selectively chosen scriptures and by exploiting

    and commercialize them to meet their means as well to purposely cultivate a following upon those doctrines and exploit lured individuals

    as well. Its kind of a cant fail strategy to take on for a publishing house. Cultivate your following on fear and ignorance and present

    yourself as the only means to save oneself from your own personal destruction and Wallah you have an organized religion.

    Pretentiously false and assuringly instigated by a publishing house, self supporting and self serving for its own standing benefit.

    Ding posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:04:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    How do JWs arrive at their explanation of the Bible?

    They believe whatever the GB tells them and change their explanations whenever the GB changes theirs.

    Maybe the question should be, "How does the GB arrive at its explanation of the Bible?"

    In a lot of ways, they select a couple of key proof-texts, such as the part of Ecclesiastes 9:5 that says "the dead are conscious of nothing." They take this as an absolute teaching on what happens after death and any other scriptures must then be interpreted according to what they already concluded from that partial verse. Thus, Jesus' story about the rich man and Lazarus becomes a convoluted parable about Jehovah's Witnesses which isn't talking about what happens after death at all.

    This example also highlights another aspect of GB Bible interpretation -- they see everything in the Bible as having some latter day fulfillment that centers on the role of the GB and of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. In other words, it's all about THEM and their importance.

    mankkeli posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:13:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    Ding - If you claim the JWs are being indoctrinated by the GB, so then, who indoctrinated the GB?.

    bohm posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:19:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    Hey mankkeli! You claim to have a phd. A brief question, can you point to a single academic publication which carries your name and which is avaliable online?

    M james_woods posted Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:22:00 GMT(11/21/2011)

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    Back to the topic -

    In pointing out the meaning of symbolic language in the Bible, they let the Bible provide its own explanation, instead of giving their theories as to its significance. (1 Cor. 2:13) Indications as to the meaning of symbolic terms are usually found in other parts of the Bible.

    Right. SURE. And this is how we know that the seven trumpet blasts were fulfilled by some JW convention in the midwest that nobody alive today had been to or even ever heard of.

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