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is it wrong to pray to die

    exwhyzee posted Fri, 26 Aug 2011 02:55:00 GMT(8/26/2011)

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    It seems there were those in the Bible who prayed in such a way. Throw your burdens on Jehovah...he himself will you sustain. I wouldn't think an understanding God like this would view it as wrong to pray for death when he knows you are praying for relief rather than out of a lack of appreciation for life. Everyone who is alive has wondered how it would be to be the "other way". It's nearly impossible to see our way around our problems if we look for a solution when we are (H.A.L.T.) Hungry, Angry, Lonley or Tired. Often one prays at the end of a hard day or when all other resocuces seem to be exhausted. If you pray for death because you feel God can bring it about for you, why not pray for something really good like greater coping skills or for him to lead you to a solution to your problems. How many of us can remember what we were worrying about at this time last year. Death is a permenant solution to a problem that may only be temporary.

    Is it wrong to pray to die? I don't think it's wrong to pray about anything on your mind. Part of the value in prayer isn't in the answer but in the relief that comes in having formulated our thoughts/worries into sentences rather than their being diffused random thoughts, draining us of energy and hope. Speaking to another trusted individual or even writing them out on paper is a great way to ease their urgency.

    needhelp101 posted Fri, 26 Aug 2011 03:24:00 GMT(8/26/2011)

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    thanks guys.... yea i have looked into depression several times cause i think i do have it... but like you said sizemik its hard to recognize it yourself. like i'll be fine and in a split secound am just hateing life. takess me dayss at a time to get over it, i cry myself to sleep cause i don't know what is wrong with me. and am good at hiding it noone knows about it, its just hard for me to open up to people, cause the last ting i want to do is trow my burden appon them.i think/know i need to see a doc but i cant, its just cant right now.

    i have nothing against the wittnesses and the kingdon hall. i dont interrect with anyone...just in and out kind of thing. wast raised in the truth just studied for almost 4yrs now, and it was/is the best thing i could have done.

    cause even way before i join i use to cut myself relly badly,and the person i study with is the only one i told and i love her and trust,she;s the only one i can really talk to. if it wast for her i would have long been gone. then sometimes i stop and think i should never have known the truth cause then i would not have been here.

    but i know theres something wrong with me and i just needed to talk to write to someone who dont know me and cant judge me. and thanks for the hugs

    sizemik posted Fri, 26 Aug 2011 03:27:00 GMT(8/26/2011)

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    i think/know i need to see a doc but i cant, its just cant right now.

    May I ask why this is so?

    PaintedToeNail posted Fri, 26 Aug 2011 03:58:00 GMT(8/26/2011)

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    needhelp101-I agree with sizemik and mouthy, please get some professional help, life can be such a wonderful and beautiful thing, and most of us on this planet are truly worthy to be happy. Depression can be such a debilitating thing and it can be helped-as someone who has been getting help for depression for 15 years, I can truthfully recommend getting real professional help-it will change your outlook.

    My very best regards,

    CJ

    Broken Promises posted Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:23:00 GMT(8/26/2011)

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    I've prayed in the past to die, but so far it hasn't worked.

    Needhelp101, it's great that you recognise that you do need help. PLEASE go and get it. Speak to your Dr, or any dr about it. It is NOT normal to want to die, so you need help to get to a more balanced outlook. And let us know how things go. Don't be afraid to post your thoughts and questions here.

    I wish you all the best!

    trailerfitter posted Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:26:00 GMT(8/26/2011)

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    I am sorry saying this,'.please don't think I am heartless but one pair of hands working is worth millions of hand clasped in prayer. Praying my not be effective.

    M doofdaddy posted Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:47:00 GMT(8/26/2011)

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    In my long personal and professional life, I have experienced numerous people suiciding. I have no fear in confronting the issue. You don't want professional help but will post on a nonrelated site? You "believe" you may have depression? Get a grip. Cutting yourself is a massive gap to killing yourself.

    You want change rather than death.

    Guess who can make the change? You may call this judgement but I will call it responsibility.

    J. Hofer posted Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:57:00 GMT(8/26/2011)

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    not sure if praying to die is very effective. odds are god won't kill you and you just feel more down because of concentrating on negative feelings.

    life is short enough anyways, no reason to opt out before the time has come. you'll die soon enough, so start focussing on the life you got and make it a good one.

    M THE GLADIATOR posted Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:14:00 GMT(8/26/2011)

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    exwhyzee ''Death is a permenant solution to a problem that may only be temporary.''

    This well said. Once we have accepted the inevitability of death, either now or through old age, we have nothing to lose. We can live without fear and seek out things that we want to do.

    The option of ending it all will always be there but by living one day at a time we can often cope better than trying to make sence of our past and present life. We all live through dark times but they do pass if we are patient.

    Bella15 posted Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:27:00 GMT(8/26/2011)

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    It is not wrong to pray to to die, but it is not okay in the medical sense to feel that way if you are not physically sick. From someone that has suffered from depression and got medical help I'd advise you to go see a doctor as soon as you can and be honest to him. It is terapeutic to talk to others, Doc understand, also confront anything from the past that may be a factor, silence is gold but also a killer. Pray to God to send you divine connections into your life, believe, and you'll see that things start to happen, you will meet people, will find a book, see something. Believe!

    It is a pitty that the person you were studying was not that involved and didn't take you to a doctor herself/himself after finding out. You have issues you need to deal with, by cutting you are trying to cope or grief over something maybe, if there is nothing in your upbringing, childhood traumas, it may be a chemical imbalance.

    I live in Houston, TX ... if you need some kind of support, I am here ... I will lift you up to our Heavenly Father in prayers and supplications, I will ask that He appoints an Angel over you ...

    A prayer for my friend... Lord, you've been with me all day And now unto the night May your presence still surround me As I begin to write I, too have walked this road, Lord And was quick to ask you why? Troubles were all around me So you gave me your reply You opened up my eyes to see The good you put in others Especially those that call themselves Our sisters and our brothers My friend, he wants to serve you He loves you, Lord, I know Listen to his cries, Lord Let your mercies flow Show him that you care, Lord As he seeks your face To guide him and direct him Help him understand your grace My friend, he needs your help, Lord He's a broken man it's true Come heal your humble servant Touch his heart anew I pray that all his cares, Lord He'll lay them in your hands And you'll lift his heavy burden And show him of your plans. Plans not to hurt him...but give him hope And a good future, too For his search's been with his whole heart And, your faithfulness is true.
    In Jesus' name ... 

    PSacramento posted Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:33:00 GMT(8/26/2011)

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    Old saying, "careful what you wish for..."

    Just saying.

    JDAWG posted Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:50:00 GMT(8/26/2011)

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    cut yourself

    Band on the Run posted Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:36:00 GMT(8/26/2011)

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    I became very depressed because of a severe chronic pain illness. The diagnosis was controversial. I was told they would refuse to treat me unless I held down my job, etc. The pressure mounted. Because it was an orphan illness, I was never told in a straight forward manner about my illness. I shoved all my feelings, esp. fear, deep within myself. Soon, help for depression was recommended. I thought I had to fight the foe. Giving up going alone and seeking help immediately took a great burden off me. I felt klunky and awkward. The bottom line is that I was helped.

    needhelp101 posted Sat, 27 Aug 2011 01:52:00 GMT(8/27/2011)

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    thank you everyoneeeeeeee for posting to tell you the truth i didt know i would have gotten so manyy replys. so thank u guys very much for the advice and taking time to write to me.

    @ the gladiator its true what you say that we all have bad time and it passes if we are patience. and i am very patience, i always wait it out and then am alrite again. but for some reason i cant bare it anymore when these thoughts come into my mind,i just want to be gone and not live any more, everything just comes back like a constance reminder. and i cant take it any more going through this.

    @ bella15 thanks so much...i know everyone is saying i need to go to a doctor, but i just cant ,am very stubborn i guess i dont want someone to actully say you suffer with depression or wateva it is and takes some pills. like i been having these moods for a while it would last a couple days in a month and then after awhile i;ll be ok. but recently whenever it happens i just get more more depress/sad/angry and just want to end it, and i cant take it anymore. like right now am sooo much better than a couple days ago when i felt like crap and just want to die. then i look back and like what is wrong with me am healty strong much better of than most people and am complaining. like i dont know anymore.just like am two diffrent person. by chance have study with any JW?

    headisspinning posted Sat, 27 Aug 2011 01:57:00 GMT(8/27/2011)

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    Hey there...

    I understand that you are feeling desperate and alone but I want to share something personal with you...

    I took it one step further on August 24, 2007. I made a serious attempt on my life and was in critical condition.

    Now, exactly four years and two days later, I can honestly say that I am so very thankful to be alive...

    It has been a long road and at first - for even a year or more - in some ways I regretted that I was revived.

    But today, I have a wonderful husband - the love of my life - and a gorgeous little boy...
    I would have missed out on all of that if I had thrown in the towel.

    Please PM me anytime. Don't give up my friend!

    xo Julia

    needhelp101 posted Sat, 27 Aug 2011 02:33:00 GMT(8/27/2011)

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    hi thanks for sharing and yea thats how i feel alone somtimes,like i knows theres people (specifficaly just 2 people )who genuinely loves me and i feel the same towards them but i love them so much that i rather not tell them what emotions am really feeling inside. i just rather for them not to know, i know that sounds stupid but i love them so much that i dont want them to worry about me.

    am happy for :).... thats something i want like i loveee kidss they make me happy cant wait to have my own.... i try to hold on and its always a struggle ...sometimes it just gets the best of me... but thanks julia xoxo

    headisspinning posted Sat, 27 Aug 2011 03:07:00 GMT(8/27/2011)

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    What really helped me was getting a counsellor who I really felt comfortable with. It wasn't so much what he said - but more just being able to open up and talk and feel validated. Honestly, it has made all the difference.

    Even now, I still go and see my therapist every so often. Sometimes every other week... sometimes every couple of months. The key is to notice how you're feeling and not let it get too carried away.

    Something else that has helped is to make a list of little things that might be bothering me. A lot of times I find that there are 10 little things that are bothering me... BUT, when you put them all together - Geez, that's a whole lot for someone to bear isn't it?

    xo Julia xo

    sizemik posted Sat, 27 Aug 2011 04:08:00 GMT(8/27/2011)

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    hey needhelp . . . nice to hear you feeling better.

    i guess i dont want someone to actully say you suffer with depression or wateva it is and takes some pills.

    Like some other posters, I got some counselling too. What it taught me, was all I needed to know as to why I was experiencing these things . . . the actual physiological reasons and explanation of what was going on. Knowledge in itself was a great relief. What it taught me was this was nothing to do with my thinking, intelligence, abilities or personality . . . it was simply a physical illness just like any other. Depression is actually a very misleading and poor descriptive label IMO.

    The second thing I learned was a few basic coping strategies . . . simple things I could do to mitigate the effects and make life easier. It's been 3 years since I saw a counsellor, and a similar length of time since I've used medication. I'm basically back to normal apart from being more clued up!

    Your depressive bouts may be as simple as fluctuating seratonin levels in the brain which effect our mood . . . the thought patterns that follow are a result of that . . . not the cause. If so . . . this can be easily remedied.

    Don't be afraid of "labels" . . . or unreasonably stubborn. Get it fixed!

    talesin posted Sat, 27 Aug 2011 05:48:00 GMT(8/27/2011)

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    I haven't read the thread (yes, I'm a bad, bad. gurl!) ,,, but want to say, that it's NOT WRONG to pray to die. It means that you are reaching out,,, for help! I have felt that way many times in my life, and speak from experience.

    The fact that you have posted here, looking for support, means (to me) that you really want to live,,, grab onto that thought, and remember, no matter how alone you feel,,, you are NOT!

    xo

    talesin

    talesin posted Sat, 27 Aug 2011 05:49:00 GMT(8/27/2011)

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    oh, and Size, you have a PM. (private message, for the 'new' ones) ...

    :)

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