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April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
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April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:39:00 GMT
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Post 2959 of 4266 Since 4/6/2010 |
The opening article of the new April 2011 WT starts by talking about Israel abandoning Jehovah. It says: "In one section of
Nothing so wrong here...but notice how they continue: "He has delegated some authority
Nothing about the GB here... Just the faithful slave. I never knew that the annointed in the congregation were consulted before appointing overseers... Oh wait...they aren't. The article continues: "How can we show that we appreciate And it gets worse: "How, then, do we react when we receive
They are tightening the leash. They are terrified by the loss of control that they are being affected by. This organization never ceases to amaze/sicken me.
They end the article in this way: "Do you clearly discern the evidence of divine |
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:41:00 GMT
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Post 2960 of 4266 Since 4/6/2010 |
Just a couple more quotes from that same article: "Of course, those taking the lead in the Awe...how humble!!! "Today, Jehovah’s steward class gives a
I just hope more people continue to see how horrible this organization is. |
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:42:00 GMT
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![]() Post 34591 of 39075 Since 7/3/2002 |
This was put out earlier here. It just shows how they are trying to exercise CONTROL over the cultists. |
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:43:00 GMT
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Post 2961 of 4266 Since 4/6/2010 |
Oh, I must have missed the thread. |
mimimimi
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:47:00 GMT
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![]() IllinoisPost 351 of 373 Since 10/5/2006 |
I'm glad you put it again, because I did not see it before. I think of my family who are in and I wish they could see this for what it is. But to them, it is food at the proper time. Sickening! |
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:49:00 GMT
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Post 254 of 659 Since 9/27/2010 |
http://thegoverningbody.org/obeying-the-governing-body-means-your-life-eternally/ Check this one out too. |
BluesBrother
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:49:00 GMT
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![]() EnglandPost 6518 of 7953 Since 10/29/2001 |
"Divine direction"...on things to do with their ministry.....and what film to watch, what clothes to wear in your personal time.....and in the past - not to use aluminium cooking pots, not to accept vaccinations etc etc..... If that is from the Divine, then my opinion of The Divine One is changing rapidly............... |
james_woods
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:52:00 GMT
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![]() TexasPost 3753 of 15810 Since 10/26/2005 |
Reading between the lines, it is easy to see that there is practically no real distinction between the terms "faithful discrete slave" and "governing body". "Today, Jehovah’s steward class gives a The "ordinary" annointed out there in the vast wasteland (outside Bethel) do not create Watchtower articles, new publications, or talks at the conventions. - and, the rank & file JW instinctively knows that. |
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:55:00 GMT
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Post 1431 of 2144 Since 9/27/2009 |
I saw this fun editing exercise on another thread a while back, and thought that it would fit well here. It very nicely cuts through the BS straight to the intended message:
"He has delegated some all authority "How can we you show that we you appreciate
"How, then, do weyou react when weyou receive |
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:59:00 GMT
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Post 3894 of 7378 Since 11/2/2009 |
Know why we on JWN love to discuss what's "new" with the Borg? Because there is SO LITTLE that's NEW. New Watchtower articles are mostly re-hashes of OLD Watchtower articles. New publications are mostly re-hashes of OLD publications. New talk outlines say the same OLD crap as the OLD talk outlines did. The GB doesn't make up new stuff. That would entail WORK and THINKING. Once in a great while there is something new (like the new generation definition or the new aux. pioneering arrangement) that we jump on because it's so rare, and the changes, when they do happen, are almost always reactionary (generation HAD TO be changed because the old one was dead, literally; auxiliary pioneering hours reduced for April because the annual campaigns have been fruitless). |
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:59:00 GMT
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Post 2962 of 4266 Since 4/6/2010 |
It's amazing that Hebrews 3:3 says that JESUS is the greater Moses. Yet the GB presumptuously took that title on for themselves. There was no talk in that article about coming to JESUS for salvation. It was "come to the organization for salvation." |
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:04:00 GMT
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Post 255 of 659 Since 9/27/2010 |
It's such a weak teaching, based on one parable and easily destroyed with other scriptures. Where's the scripture that says God would have an organization? Where's the scripture that says we would have to be part of an organization to survive Armageddon? I know other factors come into play, but it still surprises me that most JW's don't realize that. |
sir82
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:32:00 GMT
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Mongolia Post 4955 of 7777 Since 5/17/2005 |
Yeah they keep publishing these "Obey us or god will melt your eyeballs at Armageddon!" articles virtually every month. And nothing really changes. People storm convention sites at 8:01 AM and leave 30 magazines on seats for their friends. People do about 15 minutes of "real" witnessing work and count 2 hours for the morning. People watch TV instead of organizing a "Family Worship night". People rush out to buy iphones so they can update their facebook pages every 15 minutes. People blow off meetings because they are just so god-awful boring and uninstructive. People talk to their disfellowshipped kids.
The higher up the ranks of the organizational leaders you look, the more you see a mixture of aggravation, contempt, and bewilderment in the eyes of its representatives. "Why don't these guys just obey us like they should?" And the most creative response the GB gets from the cadre of yes-men that surround it? "Well, maybe repeating 'obey us or die!' 40 times a year just isn't enough. I'll bet if we repeat it 80 times a year things will change!"
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:36:00 GMT
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Post 1433 of 2144 Since 9/27/2009 |
It's amazing that Hebrews 3:3 says that JESUS is the greater Moses. Yet the GB presumptuously took that title on for themselves. Dan, you're wrong. Jesus is still the Greater Moses; the GB is the Greater Jesus. Didn't you know? |
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:45:00 GMT
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Post 969 of 1606 Since 12/31/2009 |
On a positive note, at least they're making it clear who the leaders are, instead of some nebulous "society". In the 80's and 90's it was common to hear "the Society says...". Now it's the "the faithful slave says..." or "the governing body says..." as an appeal to authority when "reasoning". Well, actually I'm not sure how that's an improvement, but it is a difference. |
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:47:00 GMT
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Post 2982 of 4266 Since 4/6/2010 |
True true, pirata. Glass half full. Zoiks, it would hilarious if they eventually admited that. |
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:03:00 GMT
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Post 649 of 1296 Since 5/23/2010 |
My impression of how things have shifted in the literature from the 70s to the present time is that the GB is MUCH more in your face about their authority. They really are shoved down our throats like never before. I'm sorry, but there's NOT ONE single GB member that I want in my throat. Period. Bro. Dan wrote: "I just hope more people continue to see how horrible this organization is." I honestly believe more and more are. I believe the conscious class is growing. I bet you aren't the only member of the conscious class in your congo Bro. Dan. The only problem is how to identify (and commiserate) with the others. |
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:05:00 GMT
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Post 650 of 1296 Since 5/23/2010 |
Follow up: I believe that the GB knows the Conscious Class is growing. That's why they are trying to shove themselves down our throats. They are losing their grip, and they know it. They feel the need to exert their "authority." The only problem is that more and more are catching glimpses of the man behind the curtain. Articles such as this one seem to be really saying: "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain." |
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:21:00 GMT
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Post 948 of 1819 Since 6/30/2009 |
If you say something long enough, the hearers will believe it. The WTS realizes that the flock are forgetful hearers and need constant reminders for them to know who to follow.
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darth frosty
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Re: April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again
posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:44:00 GMT
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![]() MichiganPost 2896 of 4040 Since 11/28/2005 |
My impression of how things have shifted in the literature from the 70s to the present time is that the GB is MUCH more in your face about their authority.
Well considering the GB really didn't come into true existance till the '70's thats to be expected.
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