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April 2011 WT: Shoving the Faithful Slave down our throats again

    brotherdan posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:39:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    The opening article of the new April 2011 WT starts by talking about Israel abandoning Jehovah. It says:

    "In one section of
    their camp, the Israelites sawthe pillar of fire
    and cloud—themajestic evidence of theOne
    who had led themout of Egypt—and not far
    from there, they began worshipping a lifeless
    idol, saying: “This is your God, O Israel,
    who led you up out of the land of Egypt.”
    What “great acts of disrespect”!"

    Nothing so wrong here...but notice how they continue:

    "He has delegated some authority
    to a faithful slave class, made up
    of faithful spirit-anointed Christians. That
    slave class, in turn, appoints overseers in the
    Christian congregation"

    Nothing about the GB here... Just the faithful slave. I never knew that the annointed in the congregation were consulted before appointing overseers... Oh wait...they aren't.

    The article continues:

    "How can we show that we appreciate
    God’s guidance? The apostle Paul said: “Be
    obedient to those who are taking the lead
    among you and be submissive.”"

    And it gets worse:

    "How, then, do we react when we receive
    divine direction? Dowe try to apply it “right
    afterward”? Or dowe continue doing things
    just as we have been accustomed to doing
    them? Are we familiar with up-to-date directions,
    such as those regarding conducting
    home Bible studies, preaching to foreignspeaking
    people, regularly sharing in family
    worship, cooperating with Hospital Liaison
    Committees, and conducting ourselves
    properly at conventions? We also show our
    appreciation for God’s guidance by accepting
    counsel. When faced with far-reaching
    decisions, we do not trust in our own wisdom
    but look to Jehovah and his organization
    for guidance."

    They are tightening the leash. They are terrified by the loss of control that they are being affected by. This organization never ceases to amaze/sicken me.

    They end the article in this way:

    "Do you clearly discern the evidence of divine
    guidance? Jehovah uses his organization
    to guide us, his people, through “the
    wilderness” during these last days of Satan’s
    wicked world. As a result, we enjoy unity,
    love, and security...Likewise, God’s people today will without
    fail reach the promised newworld.However,
    whetherwe personallywill be there depends
    to no small degree on our humble willingness
    to follow God’s direction.
    Therefore,
    may we all keep on discerning the evidence
    of Jehovah’s guidance!"

    brotherdan posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:41:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    Just a couple more quotes from that same article:

    "Of course, those taking the lead in the
    earthly part of God’s organization are not
    perfect—but neither wasMoses."

    Awe...how humble!!!

    "Today, Jehovah’s steward class gives a
    clear signal whenever it is time to make a
    move. How does the steward do that? By
    means of articles inTheWatchtower and Our
    Kingdom Ministry, new publications, and
    talks at assemblies and conventions."

    I just hope more people continue to see how horrible this organization is.

    minimus posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:42:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    This was put out earlier here. It just shows how they are trying to exercise CONTROL over the cultists.

    brotherdan posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:43:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    Oh, I must have missed the thread.

    F mimimimi posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:47:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    I'm glad you put it again, because I did not see it before. I think of my family who are in and I wish they could see this for what it is. But to them, it is food at the proper time. Sickening!

    DanaBug posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:49:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    http://thegoverningbody.org/obeying-the-governing-body-means-your-life-eternally/

    Check this one out too.

    M BluesBrother posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:49:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    "Divine direction"...on things to do with their ministry.....and what film to watch, what clothes to wear in your personal time.....and in the past - not to use aluminium cooking pots, not to accept vaccinations etc etc.....

    If that is from the Divine, then my opinion of The Divine One is changing rapidly...............

    M james_woods posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:52:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    Reading between the lines, it is easy to see that there is practically no real distinction between the terms "faithful discrete slave" and "governing body".

    "Today, Jehovah’s steward class gives a
    clear signal whenever it is time to make a
    move. How does the steward do that? By
    means of articles inTheWatchtower and Our
    Kingdom Ministry, new publications, and
    talks at assemblies and conventions."

    The "ordinary" annointed out there in the vast wasteland (outside Bethel) do not create Watchtower articles, new publications, or talks at the conventions. - and, the rank & file JW instinctively knows that.

    zoiks posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:55:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    I saw this fun editing exercise on another thread a while back, and thought that it would fit well here. It very nicely cuts through the BS straight to the intended message:

    "He has delegated some all authority
    to a faithful slave class, made up
    of faithful spirit-anointed Christians
    us. That
    slave class
    We, in turn, appoints overseers in the
    Christian congregation"

    "How can we you show that we you appreciate
    God’sour guidance? The apostle Paul said: “Be
    obedient to those who are taking the lead
    among you and be submissive.”"

    "How, then, do weyou react when weyou receive
    divineour direction? Do we you try to apply it “right
    afterward”? Or do weyou continue doing things
    just as weyou have been accustomed to doing
    them? etc. etc. etc.

    Mad Sweeney posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:59:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    Know why we on JWN love to discuss what's "new" with the Borg? Because there is SO LITTLE that's NEW.

    New Watchtower articles are mostly re-hashes of OLD Watchtower articles. New publications are mostly re-hashes of OLD publications. New talk outlines say the same OLD crap as the OLD talk outlines did.

    The GB doesn't make up new stuff. That would entail WORK and THINKING. Once in a great while there is something new (like the new generation definition or the new aux. pioneering arrangement) that we jump on because it's so rare, and the changes, when they do happen, are almost always reactionary (generation HAD TO be changed because the old one was dead, literally; auxiliary pioneering hours reduced for April because the annual campaigns have been fruitless).

    brotherdan posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:59:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    It's amazing that Hebrews 3:3 says that JESUS is the greater Moses. Yet the GB presumptuously took that title on for themselves. There was no talk in that article about coming to JESUS for salvation. It was "come to the organization for salvation."

    DanaBug posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:04:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    It's such a weak teaching, based on one parable and easily destroyed with other scriptures. Where's the scripture that says God would have an organization? Where's the scripture that says we would have to be part of an organization to survive Armageddon? I know other factors come into play, but it still surprises me that most JW's don't realize that.

    M sir82 posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:32:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    Yeah they keep publishing these "Obey us or god will melt your eyeballs at Armageddon!" articles virtually every month.

    And nothing really changes.

    People storm convention sites at 8:01 AM and leave 30 magazines on seats for their friends.

    People do about 15 minutes of "real" witnessing work and count 2 hours for the morning.

    People watch TV instead of organizing a "Family Worship night".

    People rush out to buy iphones so they can update their facebook pages every 15 minutes.

    People blow off meetings because they are just so god-awful boring and uninstructive.

    People talk to their disfellowshipped kids.

    The higher up the ranks of the organizational leaders you look, the more you see a mixture of aggravation, contempt, and bewilderment in the eyes of its representatives.

    "Why don't these guys just obey us like they should?"

    And the most creative response the GB gets from the cadre of yes-men that surround it? "Well, maybe repeating 'obey us or die!' 40 times a year just isn't enough. I'll bet if we repeat it 80 times a year things will change!"

    zoiks posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:36:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    It's amazing that Hebrews 3:3 says that JESUS is the greater Moses. Yet the GB presumptuously took that title on for themselves.

    Dan, you're wrong. Jesus is still the Greater Moses; the GB is the Greater Jesus. Didn't you know?

    pirata posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:45:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    On a positive note, at least they're making it clear who the leaders are, instead of some nebulous "society". In the 80's and 90's it was common to hear "the Society says...". Now it's the "the faithful slave says..." or "the governing body says..." as an appeal to authority when "reasoning".

    Well, actually I'm not sure how that's an improvement, but it is a difference.

    brotherdan posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:47:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    True true, pirata. Glass half full.

    Zoiks, it would hilarious if they eventually admited that.

    laverite posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:03:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    My impression of how things have shifted in the literature from the 70s to the present time is that the GB is MUCH more in your face about their authority. They really are shoved down our throats like never before. I'm sorry, but there's NOT ONE single GB member that I want in my throat. Period.

    Bro. Dan wrote: "I just hope more people continue to see how horrible this organization is." I honestly believe more and more are. I believe the conscious class is growing. I bet you aren't the only member of the conscious class in your congo Bro. Dan. The only problem is how to identify (and commiserate) with the others.

    laverite posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:05:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    Follow up:

    I believe that the GB knows the Conscious Class is growing. That's why they are trying to shove themselves down our throats. They are losing their grip, and they know it. They feel the need to exert their "authority." The only problem is that more and more are catching glimpses of the man behind the curtain. Articles such as this one seem to be really saying: "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."

    straightshooter posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:21:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    If you say something long enough, the hearers will believe it. The WTS realizes that the flock are forgetful hearers and need constant reminders for them to know who to follow.

    M darth frosty posted Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:44:00 GMT(1/20/2011)

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    My impression of how things have shifted in the literature from the 70s to the present time is that the GB is MUCH more in your face about their authority.

    Well considering the GB really didn't come into true existance till the '70's thats to be expected.

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