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Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
Third Eye Open
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Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:26:00 GMT
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IllinoisPost 11 of 13 Since 12/26/2005 |
The essay linked above was written specifically to address the new creationist brochures that were put out by the Watchtower at this year's District Convention. The goals of the essay are the following: 1. Explain the fundamentals of the philosophy of science so that people can understand why creationism (specifically the Watchtower's chosen flavor) is not science 2. Refute the various claims the Watchtower makes regarding science (exposing out-of-context quotes, correcting logical errors, and pointing out scientific errors) 3. Explaining basic concepts about how evolution works, the current state of abiogenesis research, and why philosophical design arguments used by the Watchtower fail The whole thing is thoroughly referenced to both the Watchtower's original sources (to show their dishonest quotations) and the relevant scientific literature so, as the WTBTS would say, "You can check the context." While the Society tried to be more transparent with their sources and has shifted their aesthetic style a little bit compared to their earlier creationist publications, they make the same mistakes and use the same old tactics. If (when, really) they run a public distribution campaign with this stuff, let's have something to hand right back to them or people that are interested in the topic.
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Copernic
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 09:48:00 GMT
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![]() Luxembourg Post 44 of 81 Since 1/17/2007 |
Awesome !! This file should be added on the EvoWiki page |
AnnOMaly
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:14:00 GMT
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![]() Yugoslavia Post 1440 of 2468 Since 8/11/2003 |
That looks well put-together, professionally done. The author should put his/her name to it - even if only a pseudonym. It also appears to be written in a straight-forward manner that will make it easy for me to digest (being a complete novice in this area of controversy). I look forward to reading it. |
PrimateDave
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:39:00 GMT
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![]() Post 1661 of 1726 Since 5/22/2006 |
I've just read through the first few pages and glanced over the rest. Wow! Absolutely fabulous! Get this one while you can, folks! |
besty
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:55:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 3524 of 3914 Since 3/3/2005 |
great work - welcome to JWN..... |
jwfacts
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:57:00 GMT
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![]() New South WalesPost 5349 of 6601 Since 6/25/2005 |
That is an incredible amount of work done in such a short time. I would like to add it to jwfacts as an example of misquotes done by the WTS. I would like to know the source so as to gain permission to post it.
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besty
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:58:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 3525 of 3914 Since 3/3/2005 |
ditto for freeminds... |
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:14:00 GMT
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Post 1514 of 4404 Since 5/12/2009 |
This is really solid! its even typeset in LaTeX, definately the work of a guy who know his stuff! |
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:39:00 GMT
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Post 5087 of 10135 Since 6/22/2009 |
This was a really great job by who ever did it, the author should take credit for all his hard work and research. One hopes that ONE day all religious people will be able to reconcile their faith with science. The only critique I have is that the wroiting is a bit "dry" and at times "overly" complex and that it could have been "dumbed down" for the genral auidence.
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:01:00 GMT
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Post 1261 of 2723 Since 2/10/2010 |
That was an awesome doc |
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:40:00 GMT
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![]() Post 1930 of 1939 Since 1/16/2008 |
That's a great document, written with intelligence, tactfully, but uncompromising. |
leavingwt
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:07:00 GMT
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![]() MississippiPost 8465 of 14413 Since 6/16/2008 |
To "arouse interest", I've pasted the Introduction, below.
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1.1 Introduction
In 2010, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society began printing and distributing two publications that address an alleged deficiency at the heart of the modern scientifific enterprise, namely the field of biology. The two works, titled Was Life Created? and The Origin of Life - Five Questions Worth Asking, present various criticisms of the evidence supporting biological evolution and argue that the origin and diversity of life is better explained by a supernatural creator god, specifically the God of the Bible.
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:08:00 GMT
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Post 2792 of 7289 Since 11/2/2009 |
Awesome! |
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:31:00 GMT
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Post 981 of 2047 Since 9/27/2009 |
This is very well done. |
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:37:00 GMT
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Post 729 of 1487 Since 6/30/2009 |
This is very useful. Thanks for creating this.
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:24:00 GMT
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Post 140 of 879 Since 4/6/2010 |
Excellent piece!!! If nothing else, as a minimum, one should be able to better understand how science and scientists work and the pragmatic approach in which science in general operates. Third eye, if you were the author, hats off. If not, hats off to the person who wrote it and definitely credit to you for bringing it to our attention.
-Yan
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Third Eye Open
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Thu, 19 Aug 2010 00:26:00 GMT
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IllinoisPost 12 of 13 Since 12/26/2005 |
I am not the author, but I posted the essay here on his behalf. He wants to say the following: I appreciate the kind words and enthusiastic reception. This topic is very important to me, so I though it deserved a good effort. I have altered the title page to include a note about the Creative Commons license that will allow people to share it without worrying about copyright. The only thanks I want is for people to distribute the document freely to whoever may benefit. The updated pdf can be found here: http://www.mediafire.com/?bdtg5jjuuv7e4hw jwfacts and Besty, feel free to repost whatever you want, just use the new link so that people know they can do the same. Also, thanks to bohm for noticing the LaTeX work. |
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Thu, 19 Aug 2010 00:57:00 GMT
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Post 378 of 8446 Since 2/3/2010 |
This is a very comprehensive piece, I downloaded the PDF and will show as many as I can. -Sab |
Copernic
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:06:00 GMT
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![]() Luxembourg Post 45 of 81 Since 1/17/2007 |
It's already linked on the Wiki of JW in French (last link). With that document + these links (here & here), we can hope to have a day a similar & wonderful table which was made by Jan Haugland I think that the impact is stronger with an Excel Sheet and easier to use for readers. (even the job done in this essay is awesome !) |
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Re: Great refutation of Watchtower's "Origin of Life" and "Was Life Created?" brochures
posted Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:12:00 GMT
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Post 4061 of 9165 Since 6/25/2009 |
Great Piece of work. Well done to the author. |


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