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GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch

    cattails GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 04:11:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit




    Post 477 of 569
    Since 4/28/2009

    The GB is closing down and selling all Central American Branches

    the congregations are to be serviced out of the Mexican Branch.

    They end the letter by saying that aren't the congregations in the

    Central American territory to be expecting great rejoicing since they'll

    soon have a large number of Special Pioneers who'll be leaving Bethels

    and coming to help out in the territories.

     

    The following original letter can be found at JHK's blog:

    http://johnhenrykurtz.blogspot.com/

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    dissed Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 04:14:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit




    Post 1945 of 2004
    Since 9/1/2009

    Thanks Cattails for sharing that....again downsizing because they are upsizing in growth. Yeah right!

    mrsjones5 Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 04:15:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit


    United States Indiana

    Post 12584 of 13913
    Since 10/13/2004

    It's called "Cost Containment".  It's a business move to retain profit.

    watson Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 04:17:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit


    United States

    Post 3553 of 3670
    Since 3/17/2005

    No parlay espanyole

    leavingwt Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 04:18:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit


    United States Mississippi

    Post 7548 of 8713
    Since 6/16/2008

    A publishing company, evolving to survive.

    changeling Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 04:19:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit




    Post 6595 of 7146
    Since 6/3/2007

    Muchisimas gracias! :)

    dissed Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 04:22:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit




    Post 1946 of 2004
    Since 9/1/2009

    I had many friends who volunteered and went down there to build those branches. And now the WTs is reaping the profits of there labor.

    asilentone Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 04:25:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit




    Post 4680 of 5888
    Since 3/25/2008

    I would like to see the English version of that letter. Thanks!

    dissed Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 04:27:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit




    Post 1947 of 2004
    Since 9/1/2009

    I have to think the WTS might be hurting more than we might think. Are they on the run? Not sure, but the flight and financial crisis is definately growing.

    DC's at Assembly Halls? Is it a quick desperate decision to raise more cash?

    Are we heading into a post 1920's like exodus? This is gaining steam for sure.

    watson Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 04:36:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit


    United States

    Post 3554 of 3670
    Since 3/17/2005

    "The Time Remaining is Reduced!"

    OnTheWayOut Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 04:38:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit


    United States Illinois

    Post 11264 of 11854
    Since 9/8/2006

    I have to think the WTS might be hurting more than we might think.

    It might explain why they would come out with the desparate NULITE that could shoot them in the foot.

     

    Dagney Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 05:24:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit


    United States California

    Post 2715 of 2824
    Since 8/14/2006

    Wow.  We were need-greaters and lived in Nicaragua and Costa Rica, visited Panama many times.  We stayed at the Managua branch while the family was away at an International.  I took Spanish lessons with a new missionary in Costa Rica with the Branch Overseer's wife.  I have the silly made up diploma from the BO still.  I have very fond memories of those times, what an adventure. Met some extraordinary people...some I'll never ever forget.  Some old timers that I just loved...

    Still happy with the demise.  Couldn't happen to a better corporation.  I have felt for years the missionary arrangement is a tremendous cost to the corporation and the countries, especially those countries, cannot support the expense.  The cuts make sense of course.  Full time servants are on the brink of extinction.  I hate the way they treat their devoted...they don't give a shit about the flock, but they really are cold to fulltimers they set free.

    Prophecies failed and this old world just keeps turning.  They didn't see this coming...I don't think their light is very bright.

    Wasanelder Once Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 05:33:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit




    Post 2315 of 2404
    Since 6/23/2005

    Adios!

    Gayle Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 05:41:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit


    United States Arizona

    Post 1622 of 1811
    Since 11/17/2006

    So what specific Central America branches does that involve?  Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Panama?  Others?  How many layoffs will that involve?  It makes me wonder about all the other branches around the world, especially the very poor countries.  How many around the world will start getting closed? The annual report for 2009 showed 118 branches.

    diamondiiz Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 06:01:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit




    Post 434 of 523
    Since 3/15/2009

    Raising cash or cashing out?  Will wts re-invest cash into more KHs, printing presses or will they buy land or stocks, bonds or other assets having nothing to do with jws?

    pseudoxristos Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 06:30:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit


    United States

    Post 427 of 429
    Since 10/15/2001

    A rough translation from Google

    pseudo

     

     

    Watch Tower 

    Watchtower Society for the Dissemination of the Bible 
    Apartado Postal 3587, Managua, Nicaragua 
    Tel: (505) 2279-8001 Fax: (505) 227-8002 

    May 1, 2010 


    In Nicaragua congregations 

    Dear brothers: 

    The opening words of Chapter 54 of Isaiah urge the heavenly part of Jehovah's organization, compared to a wife, to prepare for increases that would cause joy. The fulfillment of this exciting prophecy is evidenced by the exceptional increase of true worship which is presently observed in our country and the world as it accelerates the collection Jehovah (Isa. 54:1-4, 60:22). 

    Can Jehovah's organized people to keep up with current growth that he has made it possible? Absolutely! A key factor in properly meet the needs that arise due to the rapid growth is the simplification of procedures. The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, who represents the "faithful and discreet slave" has been well aware of this important fact (Matt. 24:45-47). In recent years we have witnessed how they have implemented several measures for simplification, such as stop serving food at meetings, to centralize the printing of magazines and other publications in certain branches located throughout the region and facilitate communication between branches and congregations. In addition, efforts have been made to design and build more quickly Kingdom Halls and Assembly Halls badly needed. Without doubt, now we all have benefited greatly from all of these settings. 

    Over the past year, the Governing Body was considering the possibility of simplifying the administrative tasks performed in smaller branches around the world. After reviewing the issue with the committees of the six branches of Central, the Governing Body has determined to centralize the supervision of the work of the Kingdom which is conducted in these countries. This will take place in the coming months and will be the branch of Mexico to oversee the work in these areas. Not yet set a date for this setting in force, but rest assured that things will be done in an orderly manner. By official correspondence, Mexico branch be reported to the bodies of elders and congregations, as more information becomes available. 

    The governing body's theocratic leadership led to great spiritual blessings for the people of the Lord in the first century. Acts 16:4, 5 says, "As we were traveling through the cities handed over to there, to observe that the decrees had taken a decision which the apostles and elders in Jerusalem. Therefore, in Indeed, the congregations continued to be made strong in faith and grow in number day by day. " The Branch Committee of our country gives its full support to this wise decision of the Governing Body, and we are confident that you will too. Without doubt, the Lord will bless us for being willing to follow the theocratic give us "who are leading the way" (Heb. 13:17) 

    A non-profit Society

    vivalavida Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 07:16:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit


    Germany

    Post 44 of 73
    Since 10/23/2007

    Well, the 6 branches of Central America would be: Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala. I don't know if they count Belize. They did have a branch there. I lived in Honduras for over 20 years and help build the branch in the 80s.

    Let's see!

    Vivalavida

    SirNose586 Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 07:25:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit


    United States California

    Post 3848 of 3898
    Since 7/6/2006

    Dissed is right. They're growing so much that they need to shut down branch facilities? Give me a break! It's called trimming the fat!

    dozy Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 08:50:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit


    United States

    Post 684 of 720
    Since 2/18/2006

    This seems to be a growing trend – following the closure of Italy , Alaska , Spain etc. As well as the obvious need to cut costs  and centralise operations in larger locations , I wonder if the WTBTS are also reducing their footprint in various lands for legal reasons – it would be very difficult for a victim of child abuse in (say) Guatemala to sue the society in Mexico or the USA. This was a technique the WTBTS used to try to avoid payouts in California by saying that the WTBTS  had no legal presence or operations there. They also limit the possibility of a branch going “apostate” , particularly a concern in Hispanic lands.

    Note the tone of the letter – throughout it is glorifying & stressing loyalty to the GB. They even stress that “the Branch Committee of our country gives its full support to this wise decision of the Governing Body” – a pre-emptive statement designed to quell any disquiet.

    The WTBTS way of making money:

    Step 1: Ask for donations , build using free labour & tax breaks. Operate for a few years. Sell at great profit.

    Step 2: Go to step one.

    wobble Re: GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch posted Wed, 26 May 2010 09:00:00 GMT (5/26/2010) edit


    United Kingdom

    Post 2839 of 3332
    Since 2/20/2008

    Mexico is not the most stable of places economically and politically, and law and order are a problem too.

    Could be another duff move my the dumb GB and their accountant/legal advisers.

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