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Are Jehovah's Witnesses enjoying their new SABBATH???

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    M Terry posted Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:09:00 GMT(4/5/2010)

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    According to the Bible timetable, man's history on earth has been nearly 6,000 years. Adam was created in 4026 B.C.E., which means that six thousand years of human history end about the fall of 1975 C.E. We are in the great 7,000-year rest day of God, starting at the time he rested after the creation of Adam and Eve. There are, therefore, a thousand years left to run. Without Satan and his demons to disturb mankind it will indeed be a restful time. It will be like a sabbath.Watchtower 7/15/67 pg.446-7

    Are the brothers and sisters at the local Kingdom Hall enjoying the 1,000 year reign of Christ that started in 1975?

    The reason I ask is, they don't seem to have ever mentioned it again!??

    Did I miss the articles or discussion?

    What gives?

    Are Jehovah's Witnesses simply living in that loooooooooong sabbath?

    p.s. Why are we apostates still alive and kicking? I'm beginning to think the Sociey's chronology was in error, but, I may be hyper-critical. They are the mouthpiece of Jehovah and these articles are published under the banner of JEHOVAH'S Kingdom. If this were all an error it would bring shame and mocking on Jehovah. True christians would never do that sort of thing.

    p.p.s. Now that Satan and his demons are gone, why is there still bad news on t.v.? I'm puzzled

    F snowbird posted Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:20:00 GMT(4/5/2010)

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    Tee hee hee.

    I'll bet JW's just love to hate you!

    Sylvia

    dgp posted Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:14:00 GMT(4/5/2010)

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    Good question.

    Kum Vulcan posted Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:11:00 GMT(4/5/2010)

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    Have you seen a lightbulb last 35 years? Of course not - even today's long life CFLs promise 8-10 year use. So the answer is: There is NEW LIGHT! Sabbath just got postponed by another "Generation" worth of years, however long that may end up being.... -KV

    M Finally-Free posted Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:14:00 GMT(4/5/2010)

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    I think the JWs in my area are taking this sabbath as a literal day of rest. They are hardly ever seen around here.

    W

    M Elsewhere posted Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:09:00 GMT(4/5/2010)

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    Hell... I've wondered why JWs still do the memorial thing. In the bible Jesus says to do the "lords evening meal" thing until he returned. According to the WTS, Jesus returned in 1914.

    M Terry posted Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:25:00 GMT(4/5/2010)

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    Hell... I've wondered why JWs still do the memorial thing. In the bible Jesus says to do the "lords evening meal" thing until he returned. According to the WTS, Jesus returned in 1914.

    Expand on that, Elsewhere!

    WTWizard posted Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:38:00 GMT(4/6/2010)

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    No, you are not missing any of the discussion. After 1975 came and went, they had to destroy all proof that they said that we would be in the New Dark Ages then. So, they went back and printed all sorts of "Those who sold out were serving for a date, which is a mistake". Of course, they went back and reprinted the old articles, tampering with them, leaving out those parts that blatantly stated that to sell out was the thing to do.

    Well, it is now 35 years past. If my arithmetic is correct, that leaves only 965 years left--and that gives them that 1975 was supposed to be the correct date. But it was not--they started as far back as 1874 being the year for Armageddon. Using that date, you have only 864 years left in that 1,000 year reign. And time is going to run out--what are they going to do when 2874 comes, we are still waiting, and they have to declare the 1,000 year reign concluded out?

    M Terry posted Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:42:00 GMT(4/6/2010)

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    How 1975 ended credibility for the Watchtower religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses

    Being proved a liar is embarrassing. This is especially true for a high profile religion.

    Jehovah’s Witnesses were proved False Prophets in 1975. Below this is documented.

    As “witnesses” before all mankind in court of public scrutiny the name Jehovah was

    Dragged through the mud and permanently stigmatized as unreliable. Step by step

    The following publications smeared the reputation of the Most High by creating a false

    Expectation carefully couched in prophetic terms.

    Judge for yourself.

    In 1966 The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society release a book titled : Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God.

    The book contains a Chronology ending in 1975. A bold statement is made:

    6,000 years of human history will end in 1975

    The drumbeat for Armageddon is begun.

    October 1966 KM (for the U.S.) "Dear Publishers" letter (p. 1):

    All of us who attended one of the "God's Sons of Liberty" District Assemblies this past summer were given much to think about, weren't we? The talks and the dramas made us feel the urgency of the times and the need of walking circumspectly before Jehovah.

    October 8, 1966 issue of Awake! pages 19-20 it said:

    The Bible shows that when God began to shape the earth for human habitation, he worked for six "days," or time periods. From the indications in God's Word, each was apparently 7,000 years in length. Then Genesis 2:22 states, Jehovah "proceeded to rest on the seventh day from all his work that he had made." This seventh day, God's rest day, has progressed nearly 6,000 years, and there is still the 1,000-year reign of Christ to go before its end. (Rev. 20:3, 7) This seventh 1,000-year period of human existence could well be likened to a great sabbath day, pictured by the sabbath day God commanded ancient Israel to keep after working for six days. (Ex. 20:8-10; 2 Pet. 3:8) After six thousand years of toil and bondage to sin, sickness, death and Satan, mankind is due to enjoy a rest and is in dire need of a rest. (Heb. 4:1-11) Hence, the fact that we are nearing the end of the first 6,000 years of man's existence is of great significance.

    Does God's rest day parallel the time man has been on earth since his creation? Apparently so. From the most reliable investigations of Bible chronology, harmonizing with many accepted dates of secular history, we find that Adam was created in the autumn of the year 4026 B.C.E. Sometime in that year Eve could well have been created, directly after which God's rest day commenced. In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of God's rest day come to an end? The year 1975. This is worthy of notice, particularly in view of the fact that the "last days" began in 1914, and that the physical facts of our day in fulfillment of prophecy mark this as the last generation of this wicked world. So we can expect the immediate future to be filled with thrilling events for those who rest their faith in God and his promises. It means that within relatively few years we will witness the fulfillment of the remaining prophecies that have to do with the "time of the end."

    December 1966 KM said (p. 4): "Never have we felt the nearness of Armageddon and the urgency of our work as we do now.

    February 1967 KM "Serving Jehovah in the Time Remaining" (pp. 4-5).

    …Jesus' electrifying words: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur." Our very generation is seeing the sign marking Jesus' second presence. Truly, "the time left is reduced." (Matt. 24:34; 1 Cor. 7:29) For this reason many of your brothers, young and old, appreciated the importance of serving God in the time remaining. Having Scriptural responsibilities that prevented them from sharing in the ministry as regular pioneers, missionaries or members of Bethel families, they demonstrated their appreciation of the shortness of the time remaining by vacation pioneering.

    July 1967 KM (p. 1) said:

    Are you glad that you have remained faithful until now? Certainly! ... This being true, what should be our attitude toward meeting together in the days ahead as the end of the old system draws near and the outside pressures increase? The apostle Paul provides the answer in the verses that support our theme for the month of July. Read carefully Hebrews 10:23-25 and note Paul's encouragement to meet together and build one another up and to do this all the more so as we "behold the day drawing near." Obviously, then, we will need to give even more attention to supporting God's house in the time ahead.

    "The Finest Work on Earth" in the October 1967 KM (p. 1)

    It is a real pleasure to have a part in the finest work done on earth today, the work Jehovah is asking us to do in these "last days," isn't it? All of us appreciate that there is little time left for this present system of things. In the remaining time it is our desire to share in the preaching work as fully as possible so as to help many more honest-hearted persons to escape from Babylon the Great.

    "Help Wanted" in the December 1967 KM (p. 1) said:

    "For what?" you may ask. To do the Kingdom preaching work. The remaining time is short, and, as Jesus put it, "the good news has to be preached first," before the old system comes to its end. (Mark 13:10) True, there are more than 300,000 helpers in the field in this country, but we know you will agree that more are needed to get the job done thoroughly.

    March 1968 KM: "An Opportunity to Increase Your Happiness" (pp. 3-6)

    Since we have dedicated ourselves to Jehovah, we want to do his will to the fullest extent possible. Making some special effort to do more than the usual helps us live up to our dedication. In view of the short period of time left, we want to do this as often as circumstances permit. Just think, brothers, there are only about ninety months left before 6,000 years of man's existence on earth is completed. Do you remember what we learned at the assemblies last summer? The majority of people living today will probably be alive when Armageddon breaks out, and there are no resurrection hopes for those who are destroyed then. So, now more than ever, it is vital not to ignore that spirit of wanting to do more.

    The "Dear Publishers" letter in the June 1968 KM:

    Yes, Jehovah has surely filled our mouths with song, and as we move on into June's activities, expressing gratitude in a practical manner, we shall, in effect, be sharing in a victory procession--the joyful march toward mankind's grand millennium of deliverance!

    October 8, 1968 Awake! "Is It Later Than You Think?" article:

    "What Will the 1970's Bring?" page 14, under the subtitle "When Do 6,000 Years End?"

    "According to reliable Bible chronology Adam and Eve were created in 4026 B.C.E."

    "Does this mean that the above evidence positively points to 1975 as the time for the complete end of this system of things? Since the Bible does not specifically state this, no man can say. However, of this we can be sure: The 1970's will certainly see the most critical times mankind has yet known."

    May 1, 1968 Watchtower subtitle "The Seventh Day" (p. 271)

    study question for paragraph 4 asked, "When were Adam and Eve created?" Paragraphs 4 through 6 answered and said:

    ... Thus, Adam's naming of the animals and his realizing that he needed a counterpart would have occupied only a brief time after his creation. Since it was also Jehovah's purpose for man to multiply and fill the earth, it is logical that he would create Eve soon after Adam, perhaps just a few weeks or months later in the same year, 4026 B.C.E. After her creation, God's rest day, the seventh period, immediately followed.

    Therefore, God's seventh day and the time man has been on earth apparently run parallel. To calculate where man is in the stream of time relative to God's seventh day of 7,000 years, we need to determine how long a time has elapsed from the year of Adam and Eve's creation in 4026 B.C.E.

    The seventh day of the Jewish week, the sabbath, would well picture the final 1,000-year reign of God's kingdom under Christ when mankind would be uplifted from 6,000 years of sin and death. (Rev. 20:6) Hence, when Christians note from God's timetable the approaching end of 6,000 years of human history, it fills them with anticipation. Particularly is this true because the great sign of the "last days" has been in the course of fulfillment since the beginning of the "time of the end" in 1914.

    Note: 1969 edition of Aid to Bible Understanding (the equivalent of the Insight volumes) indicated that Adam and Eve were created in the same year. On page 333, under the subject "Chronology," it said that the time from Adam's creation to the birth of Seth was 130 years, and on page 538, under the subject "Eve," it said that at the age of 130 Eve gave birth to Seth.

    1969 booklet The Approaching Peace of a Thousand Years was also definite about 1975. On pages 25-26 it said:

    More recently earnest researchers of the Holy Bible have made a recheck of its chronology. According to their calculations the six millenniums of mankind's life on earth would end in the mid-seventies. Thus the seventh millennium from man's creation by Jehovah God would begin within less than ten years...

    In order for the Lord Jesus Christ to be "Lord even of the sabbath day," his thousand-year reign would have to be the seventh in a series of thousand-year periods or millenniums.

    September 1968 Kingdom Ministry (p. 8) "A New Outlook on Bible Studies" in the "Presenting the Good News" section:

    Free home Bible studies are a hallmark of Jehovah's witnesses the world around. How helpful this work has been in aiding hundreds of thousands of persons to come to an accurate knowledge of the truth and to take their stand on Jehovah's side! But now time is running short for this old system of things and we want to help as many sheeplike ones as we can to learn the truth and act on it while there is still time.

    So we have a new approach to use in the Bible-study work. Yes, it is still free of charge. But, as suggested at the "Good News for All Nations" district assemblies this summer, we will seek to help as many people as possible through a six-month Bible-study program.

    To accomplish this, endeavor to hold your studies each week. If an unavoidable situation arises and you personally have to miss a study, perhaps another publisher with whom the householder is acquainted can conduct the study that week. Progress is directly related to the regularity of the study. Have in mind helping them learn enough of the truth so that they can act on it within six months...

    At all times keep before interested ones the importance of beginning to associate with Jehovah's people at the meetings. If, at the end of six months of intensive study and conscientious efforts to get them to meetings, they are not yet associating with the congregation, then it may be best to use your time to study with someone else who really wants to learn the truth and make progress. Make it your goal to present the good news on Bible studies in such a way that interested ones will act within six mo

    "Making Known an Urgent Message" in the October 1968 KM:

    A few weeks ago you heard a letter read to your congregation about the October 8 special issue of Awake! But by now you no doubt have your own copy, and you have seen for yourself what it contains. Isn't it fine? How appropriate this material is for our magazine that bears the title "Awake!" With a powerful array of facts, persuasive argument and visual aids it drives home the point that we really are living in the "last days." Kindly but firmly it emphasizes the fact that the time left is very short and that, if a person wants to serve God and survive into his righteous new system, he must take the necessary steps now.

    November 1968 KM "In the Short Time Remaining" in the "Presenting the Good News" section (p. 8):

    How often does your congregation cover its territory? Do you reach every home at least three times a year? Is it a thorough coverage each time, getting each not-at-home and speaking to different occupants in the house? In view of the shortness of the remaining time, it makes one stop and think, doesn't it?

    Also, after you have found interested persons and started home Bible studies with them, think how long it takes to teach them the truth, bring them along to dedication and baptism, train them in the field ministry and assist them to progress to maturity! Yes, we all do well to think seriously about having a good share now in the door-to-door work, not postponing it until some later time.--Mark 13:10.

    There are other reasons for sharing fully in the door-to-door work. With the improved method of conducting home Bible studies, many students will be making a decision much sooner than has been done in the past. Some will show the necessary initiative and will act. They will progress toward maturity much faster and the study can be stopped sooner. Others will not act on the knowledge they take in and we will discontinue the study. Thus it will not be a matter of conducting a study for years as some have done in the past but there will be a concluding of studies and a need to start new studies. It will require regular and effective door-to-door work in order for these new studies to be started. It will be good to be conducting more than one study at a time so that we will be regular in this feature of the work and thus will always be teaching someone the truth if one of our studies is discontinued

    "Have You Been Studying for Six Months?" in the May 15, 1969 Watchtower (pp. 309-12).

    DECISION NOW IS VITAL
    The urgency of the times in which we are living requires that we do all we can to bring our lives into harmony with God's will. From what you have learned you know why this system of things is rapidly deteriorating before our eyes. You know the meaning of the unrest and increased violence in all the earth. All this shows that we have approached the very brink of the earth-cleansing destruction of which Jesus and the Bible writers prophesied!

    This is the most serious time in human history, and you are living in this time of change. "The world is passing away," the Bible says, but those who do 'the will of God will remain forever.' (1 John 2:17) Your studying the Bible is to equip you to learn that will of God so you can do it. Yes, there is a purpose behind this study; there is a future attached to it...

    In view of the short time left in which to do their work, Jehovah's witnesses do not continue to study the Bible with any who fail to respond to its urgent message within six months. The nearness of this system's end compels them to use their time in the most effective way possible. So they feel obligated to spend their time calling on someone else who might respond by attending meetings at the Kingdom Hall and by speaking to others about the Bible truths learned. Thus it may be that if you have not as yet responded by even becoming a regular attender at some of the congregation meetings, the one who is studying the Bible with you may cancel that study arrangement in order to give his time to someone else. This arrangement is not meant to be harsh, but the urgency of the times in which we live demands it. There are millions of persons who need spiritual help and God's servants want to reach all they possibly can.

    We, therefore, urge you to consider very carefully your position. You have embarked on a course of study that has opened up to you the magnificent opportunity of life forever in eternal happiness. (John 17:3) If you love God and appreciate his provision for eternal life, do not turn your back on it. Realize that God has shown great consideration for you by making it possible for someone to come to your home to help you learn His will and purposes. Respond to his divine love by deciding now to do his will, along with the entire association of those who are serving God "with spirit and truth."-John 4:23, 24

    May 1969 KM "Have You Studied with Them for Six Months?" (p. 3):

    ... Has the householder demonstrated that he is taking the truth to heart and has set his mind on serving Jehovah? How? If he formerly had images around the house, have these been removed? ...If positive action is not being taken by the householder, it is likely that the study should not be continued... If you are planning to discontinue a particular study, it might be well to spend one or two sudy periods with the student having a heart-to-heart discussion about the things that have been learned and their significance and the urgency of the times, rather than going ahead with a regular study of additional material... there is an urgency about our work and we have a responsibility before God to use our time to aid persons who truly want to serve him... We appreciate the urgency of the work we are doing. When individuals show by their actions that they want to do Jehovah's will, we will continue to aid them. Where substantial progress is not seen, then, rather than continuing the study, we do well to spend that time each week trying to find and help someone who is sincerely interested in doing something about the truth.

    March 1969 KM insert (p. 6):

    Remember that Jehovah's organization in heaven and on earth backs up those who serve Jehovah by proclaiming the "good news." (Rev. 14:6, 7) We recognize, as you do, that we are deep into the "time of the end." There is little time left for this old system of things.

    October 1969 KM "Time Left Is Reduced" (p. 1):

    Time is passing by quickly, isn't it? Just think, each passing day draws us one day closer to the end of this wicked system of things and one day closer to the time when the peace of a thousand years will begin.

    December 1969 KM said (p. 1):

    We are very thankful to Jehovah that he is giving such increases and gathering so many sheeplike persons in these "last days." ... We hope there will be a large number of new publishers joining with us in the service during December and on into 1970. Indeed, we have good reasons to hold our heads up high as we see our deliverance drawing near.

    "Faith Builders at Work" December 1969 KM:

    If ever there was a need for faith building it is now. It makes one sorry to see so many people, young and old, with no faith in God and no hope for the future. Expectations built up by the false promises of secular and religious leaders have been postponed so many times that the hearts of the people in general are sick. But as the apostle Paul explained, "faith is not a possession of all people." It is, though, of Jehovah's Christian witnesses. We have confidence in the sure promises of the Word of God.--2 Thess. 3:2.

    1970 Yearbook (p. 34):

    Jehovah's witnesses feel the urgency of getting this work done under Jehovah God's guidance. They feel the time is near at hand for the end of this wicked system of things.

    Contrast the above language with later language:

    March 15, 1980 Watchtower article "Choosing the Best Way of Life" contains, on pages 17-18:

    In modern times such eagerness, commendable in itself, has led to attempts at setting dates for the desired liberation from the suffering and troubles that are the lot of persons throughout the earth. With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting-in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man's existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. There were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility. Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility. It is to be regretted that these latter statements apparently overshadowed the cautionary ones and contributed to a buildup of the expectation already initiated.

    In its issue of July 15, 1976, The Watchtower, commenting on the inadvisability of setting our sights on a certain date, stated: "If anyone has been disappointed through not following this line of thought, he should now concentrate on adjusting his viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of God that failed or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his own understanding was based on wrong premises." In saying "anyone," The Watchtower included all disappointed ones of Jehovah's Witnesses, hence including persons having to do with the publication of the information that contributed to the buildup of hopes centered on that date.

    Nevertheless, there is no reason for us to be shaken in faith in God's promises. Rather, as a consequence, we are all moved to make a closer examination of the Scriptures regarding this matter of a day of judgment. In doing so, we find that the important thing is not the date. What is important is our keeping ever in mind that there is such a day -- and it is getting closer and it will require an accounting on the part of all of us. Peter said that Christians should rightly be "awaiting and keeping close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah." (2 Pet. 3:12) It is not a certain date ahead; it is day-to-day living on the part of the Christian that is important. He must not live a single day without having in mind that he is under Jehovah's loving care and direction and must submit himself thereto, keeping also in mind that he must account for his acts.

    Contrast the above with this:

    December 1969 KM:

    Expectations built up by the false promises of secular and religious leaders have been postponed so many times that the hearts of the people in general are sick.

    The October 8, 1968 Awake! (p. 23):

    Still some persons may say: "How can you be sure? Maybe it is later than many people think. But maybe it is not as late as some persons claim. People have been mistaken about these prophecies before.".... True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date.... Yet, nothing happened. The "end" did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? Missing was the full measure of evidence required in fulfillment of Bible prophecy. Missing from such people were God's truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using them.

    Compare all the above with this admonition.

    1974 book Is This Life All There Is? (p. 46):

    Knowing these things, what will you do? It is obvious that the true God, who is himself "the God of truth" and who hates lies, will not look with favor on persons who cling to organizations that teach falsehood. (Psalm 31:5; Proverbs 6:16-19; Revelation 21:8) And, really, would you want to be even associated with a religion that had not been honest with you?

    Is there an inescapable conclusion to be drawn?

    Then, why haven’t you drawn that conclusion?

    (Thanks to AlanF for research and organization)

    M thetrueone posted Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:57:00 GMT(4/6/2010)

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    Are the brothers and sisters at the local Kingdom Hall enjoying the 1,000 year reign of Christ that started in 1975?

    I heard that it is impossible for anyone to calculate the time frame from the creation of Adam to the flood or from

    the flood to modern times, there simply isn't any accurate reference to calculate from.

    Making the WTS. 1975 a big bullshit story.

    Straighten me out on this if possible.

    M Terry posted Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:04:00 GMT(4/6/2010)

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    I heard that it is impossible for anyone to calculate the time frame from the creation of Adam to the flood or from

    the flood to modern times, there simply isn't any accurate reference to calculate from.

    Making the WTS. 1975 a big bullshit story.

    Straighten me out on this if possible.

    If you got any straighter on this we could use you for a ruler!

    truthseeker posted Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:42:00 GMT(4/6/2010)

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    I thought the 1000 year reign started in 1914.

    Never mind, must have missed the invisible coronation.

    M sir82 posted Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:50:00 GMT(4/6/2010)

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    In order for the Lord Jesus Christ to be "Lord even of the sabbath day," his thousand-year reign would have to be the seventh in a series of

    thousand-year periods or millenniums.

    I find this statement to be the strongest one I've seen in print to assert that "Armageddon will start by 1975".

    They were usually quite careful in how they worded things, in print anyway, but they let this one slip through.

    M Terry posted Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:34:00 GMT(4/7/2010)

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    They were usually quite careful in how they worded things, in print anyway, but they let this one slip through.

    It was the old guard leaders, Knorr and Franz, having a mental breakdown in the most public way possible!

    They thought they could make it happen by advertising it.

    The Catholic Church believes that it is a bottom up church: "What is sealed on earth is sealed in heaven."

    The Watchtower Society has become very Catholic over the years.

    This is the best indication of it.

    M rocketman posted Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:30:00 GMT(4/7/2010)

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    .".... True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date.... Yet, nothing happened. The "end" did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? Missing was the full measure of evidence required in fulfillment of Bible prophecy. Missing from such people were God's truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using them."

    By their own words they stand convicted of false prophecy.

    F Mary posted Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:40:00 GMT(4/7/2010)

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    Are the brothers and sisters at the local Kingdom Hall enjoying the 1,000 year reign of Christ that started in 1975?

    Didn't they try and wiggle out of that crap by claiming that they didn't take into account how long it was between when Adam was created and when Eve showed up and that the two events run parallel? I remember several years ago, one speaker asserted that "well, we know that Adam was alone for at least 25 years before Eve was created...." The insane reasoning was that Adam being created on the sixth day was exactly 6,000 years prior to 1975, but since this wicked ol' System of Dinks is still here, then "evidently" the Millenium would start 6,000 years after Eve was created......

    God, my head hurts after that one.

    M Terry posted Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:15:00 GMT(4/7/2010)

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    Adam being created on the sixth day was exactly 6,000 years prior to 1975, but since this wicked ol' System of Dinks is still here, then "evidently" the Millenium would start 6,000 years after Eve was created..

    I'm beginning to suspect that Adam went "without" for so long he may have cosorted with the Ourangutans!

    But, seriously folks.....

    It has been 35 years!

    Walking around naked for 35 years with all the animal life around you humpin' and stuff.......sheesh....

    F Mary posted Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:56:00 GMT(4/9/2010)

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    Ya, but Adam didn't realize he was nekkid then and apparently didn't have any sexual desire until Eve baby came along. And even then there's no record of him boinking her until after they ate the fruit.

    I think this semi-doctrine has basically been abandonned as even the most dedicated Dubs realize that it's absurd to think there was 35 years inbetween the creation of Adam and Eve. I vaguely remember them saying that it took Adam some time to "name all the animals" but you're right----35 years?

    M thetrueone posted Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:13:00 GMT(4/9/2010)

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    They thought they could make it happen by advertising it.

    When you think about it it says allot about the psychological health

    of the entire organization from the bottom up, all formulated and structured

    on the commercialization of literature and the procurement of money.........sick

    Meeting Junkie No More posted Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:17:00 GMT(4/9/2010)

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    Well, they've obviously missed something here. Satan and his demons are still around, knowing they have a short period of time. Aren't they? I mean, which is it - This gem you've mined says otherwise. What a conundrum.

    Without Satan and his demons to disturb mankind

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