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Memorial Outline

BluesBrother	Memorial Outline posted Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:46:00 GMT (3/29/2010)
England Post 5999 of 7232 Since 10/29/2001	Just so as you know what you are missing....This is the one that I delivered in the early Nineties. I do not think that it has changed much.....
sir82	Re: Memorial Outline posted Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:51:00 GMT (3/29/2010)
Mongolia Post 4087 of 6246 Since 5/17/2005	Oh it's changed quite a bit. Jesus gets a whole 5 minutes (over 10%!) of the outline there. Currently it's about 2 minutes or less. The ideal JW Memorial, probably to be realized within the next decade or so, wouldn't mention Jesus at all. It would be 45 minute lecture on why YOU (yes I mean YOU) are UNQUALIFIED to partake. DROP THAT BREAD RIGHT NOW!
undercover	Re: Memorial Outline posted Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:59:00 GMT (3/29/2010)
Post 9185 of 13624 Since 9/25/2002	Importance - 3 minutes Why - 5 minutes When - 3 minutes What it represents - 5 minutes Who partakes - 13 minutes Actual passing of emblems - 12 minutes Benefits - 4 minutes Easy to see who gets top-billing...
stillin	Re: Memorial Outline posted Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:21:00 GMT (3/29/2010)
Post 281 of 545 Since 7/20/2008	thanks, Jake. I got your soundtrack today.
WTWizard	Re: Memorial Outline posted Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:04:00 GMT (3/30/2010)
Post 10068 of 13388 Since 5/10/2007	At least I will not be going this year. I have better things to do--like finding the outline on an apostate site.
Chalam	Re: Memorial Outline posted Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:24:00 GMT (3/30/2010)
Post 3061 of 4362 Since 12/29/2007	Thanks for posting BB :) It is interesting that the biggest section is "WHO SHOULD PARTAKE OF THE EMBLEMS?", which goes on at length describing their view that almost no-one should "partake". Anyhow, the bible provides many a firm rebuttal to their "two class" deception but here's one. Galatians 3:26-29 (New International Version) Sons of God ²⁶You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, ²⁷for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. ²⁸There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. ²⁹If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Blessings, Stephen
EverAStudent	Re: Memorial Outline posted Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:31:00 GMT (3/30/2010)
Post 182 of 192 Since 10/26/2007	BluesBrother, thanks for posting that! Very informative. I did not realize that such a significant part of the ceremony was dedicated to dissuading people from believing that they were part of the New Covenant ("New Testament ")!!!! To my mind it feels like an anti-religion. In Christianity we try to show people how the New Covenant covers them, not excludes them! That was an eye opener! And what is up with 1 2:1-2 allegedly showing "two destinies"? Does it not show that everyone, apostles, Jews, and Gentiles all share in the same identical forgiveness? Yes, that was a real eye-opener.
BluesBrother	Re: Memorial Outline posted Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:04:00 GMT (3/31/2010)
England Post 6002 of 7232 Since 10/29/2001	Yep... The strange thing is that they want as many as possible to attend, 18 million last year they said, but the whole expectation is that the number of the "remnant of the little flock" remaining is expected to decrease. So they do discourage anyone from newly partaking. That doesn't stop some, of course but that is a bigger subject. If you are unclear, they say that John 10 refers to 2 destinies 1] Heaven for 144,000 2] Earth in paradise for the great crowd of other Witnesses and resurrected ones. The say, if I remember the phrase , "the great crowd are covered by the benefits of the New Covenant, but are not a party to it" - hence they do not partake.

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