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"Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear"

    highdose "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:35:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit



    Post 314 of 373
    Since 6/6/2009

    i used to pin all my hopes on this scripture, cling to it no matter what. Eventually i realised that it was rubbish! Life in the borg is so tramatic that it will often be way beyond what you can bear, and the only "comfort" you might get? A strict ticking off from the elders or a guilt trip from sister " oh so smug and self righteous"!

    wantstoleave Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:25:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit



    Post 645 of 744
    Since 4/10/2009

    This was one scripture I used to hold close too. Every time I'd endure a tragedy, or something upsetting me, I'd remember not to worry, as Jehovah would put an end to it if he thought I couldn't manage it. I don't know what I believe anymore  

    Snoozy Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:51:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit


    United States Missouri

    Post 1306 of 1334
    Since 11/3/2001

    It was taught to us in a "you will be tortured during the persecution" way. We would suffer torture but Jehovah would make us pass out if it was more than we could stand. He wouldn't give us more than we could bear. Oh yeah? He didn't watch "24"... What a crock....sadistic pigs turning that propaganda out.

    wantstoleave Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:58:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit



    Post 649 of 744
    Since 4/10/2009

    Oh I remember that too! Does anyone else remember being told how witnesses who were being beat up by police would feel the first punch, but not subsequent ones? Or how like Snoozy says, you would pass out before the pain became too bad? There were so many stories floating around of how witnesses would be beaten black and blue but wouldn't feel a thing. Apparent eye witness and personal accounts of having been through it. I always used to wonder then, how some witnesses still died after being tortured, how would Jehovah choose this one to survive, but not that one.

    trueblue Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:38:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit



    Post 188 of 235
    Since 6/29/2009

    Here all this time I have been remembering the scripture as saying (take more then you can bear). I don't know how I come to that conclusion so I looked it up in the NWT, and the Jerusulum bibles. The NWT bible says (tempted), and Jerusulum bible says (tried).

    I am still not real sure how I come to the conclusion, but it is just as well that I interpret it that way because I know from personal experiences that a person can acually die from lack of love or a broken heart, and I beleive that death some times is a blessing from God, a way out.

    I beleive that stress is the number one killer of all time. Stress breaks down the immune system, desease moves in, and then death.

    I have been told that there has been studies to verify that a new born child being given all the new born needs to stay alive (food, clothing, shelter,etc.) will die in a matter of weeks with out love.

    I beleive this in remembrance of my sister that died at age 48, then my brother that died two years later at age 48.

    I can forgive the witnesses because I know that some other SOB could have come along and spoiled my day.

    I pray to God to give me the strength to carry on...

    WTWizard Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:08:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit




    Post 8993 of 9111
    Since 5/10/2007

    It should read "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you are EXPECTED to bear.  Of course, then He could expect you to bear what is totally beyond what you are able, and judge you wicked for not being able.  Also, Jehovah decides what you can bear (and, He loves to see you suffer all your damn life and never realize fulfillment, so what disincentive is there for that Almighty Lowlife Scumbag from pushing you past your breaking point and then blaming you?).

    This is precisely what an evil God would promise.  A truly loving God would never allow you to be tested beyond what He could discern is how you function best, and thereafter allow you to do what you do best, under conditions and circumstances that best suit you, and never allow anything to disrupt that once those ideal conditions have been found.  Otherwise, Jehovah might easily destroy someone that would have been suited under one set of conditions, just because He had to test how that person would do if given bad conditions.

    Whether it is "tempted" or "tried", Jehovah has not passed this test.  He always tests, tries, and tempts (which ever term you prefer) people to their maximum detriment, and then expects praise out of them all the time.  All this is for a scam--there is no perfect life anywhere.  It is either nothing, or everything you do is what Jehovah tells you to (and would you like to live, in heaven or earth, where EVERYTHING you did was what Jehovah told you?).

    Billy the Ex-Bethelite Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:14:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit


    Virgin Islands (U.S.)

    Post 2172 of 2278
    Since 11/29/2007

    That statement proves that you can throw any words together and get people to trash logic for whatever "cause".

    Allah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.

    Buddha will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.

    The Republican Party will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.

    The Communist Party will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.

    Santa Claus will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.

    Billy the Ex-Bethelite will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear

    As long as you have someone to believe the line, then it must be "the truth".

    AllTimeJeff Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:22:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 3634 of 3866
    Since 11/9/2006

    This line actually represents Hope™

    JW's are always about tomorrow, never about now. They are like a kid waiting for Santa Claus on January 2. All this is desiged to do is to get you to stop thinking about the problems that the JW religion has put upon you, because you can take it! (right up the.....)

    peacedog Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:24:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit



    Post 45 of 82
    Since 10/17/2009

    "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear"

    I can't help but think of the JWs I knew that committed suicide....

     

    trueblue Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:07:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit



    Post 189 of 235
    Since 6/29/2009

    "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear"

    I can't help but think of the JWs I knew that committed suicide....

    I can't help but think of the JWs I knew that committed suicide.... same here

    EverAStudent Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:39:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit



    Post 51 of 110
    Since 10/26/2007

    I know it will be but little comfort to those who have already been burned by a misappropriation of the passage, but it was not about "bearing up" under adversity, it was about not giving in to sin/idolatry when others would tempt you to sin with them.  Jesus was the "way of escape" so that a person did not have to fall back into idol worship.

    No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it. Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry. (1 Corinthians 10:13-14)

    AllTimeJeff Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:45:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 3642 of 3866
    Since 11/9/2006

    EverAStudent

    Your take on that scripture (contextually) is rock solid, and demonstrates that when you have an ideology that is to be put above all others, it is a very dangerous thing..... Then, any scripture fits.

    I for one, will not be tempted to worship at Corinthian temples ever again...

    life is to short Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:47:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit



    Post 52 of 92
    Since 8/22/2009

    That is what I have been thinking too what about the JW's that have committed suicide. 

    I have been close myself to wanting to take my life because according to JW reasoning everything is my fault. It was my fault for being molested, for not taking care of my parents who molested me when they got old. Oh I could fill pages of things according to the JW's that are my fault. 

    When I bring it up to an elder or the CO, DO, or Bethel  it is always sister LITS remember Jehovah will not let you be tested beyond what you can bear. So Jehovah felt it was OK for me to be raped as a kid? They just look blank.

    No wonder there are so many suicides in this religion. There is no love, no caring. Blame the victim seems to be the way to go because Jehovah will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you can bear and if you can't bear it than there is some problem in you because Jehovah will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you can bear.

    You can spend hours trying to reason this way and all you do is feel dizzy. 

    EverAStudent Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:01:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit



    Post 52 of 110
    Since 10/26/2007

    AllTimeJeff wrote: "I for one, will not be tempted to worship at Corinthian temples ever again... "

    Of course, we both know that the meaning of idolatry is broader than Corinthian temples...say, greedy publishing houses that idolize money???? but then, I think that is what you may have been saying...

    AllTimeJeff Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:02:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 3645 of 3866
    Since 11/9/2006

    Of course, we both know that the meaning of idolatry is broader than Corinthian temples...say, greedy publishing houses that idolize money???? but then, I think that is what you may have been saying...

    You are very perceptive.....

    EverAStudent Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:08:00 GMT (11/7/2009) edit



    Post 53 of 110
    Since 10/26/2007

    lol

    wantstoleave Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:24:00 GMT (11/8/2009) edit



    Post 650 of 744
    Since 4/10/2009

    I really feel for those that took their own life, as well as the people they left behind. I know that 'back when', I would cry myself to sleep most nights because I felt inadequate, like I was never doing enough for Jehovah, and also because I was at an age where the organisation said I should be married and because I wasn't 'what is wrong with you?'. I was extremely lonely 'in the truth' as was my brother. He eventually faded away, moved away in fact - which gave him freedom he couldn't experience within the confines of living at home. He met his now soon to be wife, and is blissfully happy with her, even though he continues to carry guilt about not being a witness. I on the other hand married the first person that came along, when I was 24 (big mistake).

    If my brother hadn't got out when he did, he may have followed through, which was always our fear. I only wish now I could somehow stop his feelings of guilt for not being a witness. 

    creativhoney Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:30:00 GMT (11/8/2009) edit



    Post 177 of 588
    Since 4/29/2009

    yes thats why he invented prozac and thats why half practicing witnesses are on it.

    creativhoney Re: "Jehovah will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" posted Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:30:00 GMT (11/8/2009) edit



    Post 178 of 588
    Since 4/29/2009

    half 'of' practicing witnesses.

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