Disfellowshipped and Armageddon

Will a disfellowshipped person survive Armageddon?

Will a disassociated person......?

Will an inactive person.....?

Will a weak person......?

Will someone how has shown no interest in 'the truth'....?

Will someone who has rejected 'the truth'....?

Will somone in 'the truth' but leading a double life....?

No.

And yes...;)

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and no

Not even Bruce Willis will survive Armegedon !!

But it seems that Ben ASSfleck will, so, I for one wanna die too !

It was so traumatic being df'd and still believing....................

Thanks to my best friend who made the investigate and opened my eyes.  Thanks also to Ray Franz and all the stories I've read here.

I was "studying" with a team of local JWs for almost a year before it became clear why they wanted to survive the Great Tribulation in the most desperate way.  One of the guys who was born into the witnesses, a young married guy who was not well rehearsed in his doctrines, stated that it was necessary that he and his wife survive that time because they wanted to have "relations" and children for eternity.  It was then that I learned that all the JWs who die and have died before the tribulation will be resurrected celibate. 

I don't think they usually tell that to their recruits.

There's always that wonderful, catchall JW escape clause: "Only Jehovah can read hearts and judge".

It's anyone's guess.  I figure YHWH will handle the matter in a just and merciful way, taking all events and circumstances into consideration.

So, with that being said, I don't worry about it too much.

Just thinking back on something I don't remember real well how it went, but there was someone that was with God and then joined up with another group that God had the whole group slaughtered, and provided only the one person that used to be faithful a burial. That was to show that Jehovah has a book of memory and he never forgets.

Does not make sense to me that God would do a favour for some one that was to stay dead.

We can not see the heart, so we do not know the reasons why this person went with the other group. May be he just had to for finacial reasons or any other reason to survive.

People need companionship to survive, and in order to get it any some times, DF or other reasons people need to go else were to get companionship. They sure are not going to get it at the KH.

Just because they look bad over there to some does not mean that to God

Absolutely! Only God above can read the true hearts and desires of man...and buy Sham-Wows.

sooner

Sooner wrote: "and buy Sham-Wows"

Never!!!  Reject sham-wows and only buy real wows.  Also, don't settle for sham-poo when you can have the real thing for free!

It is incredible how transparent the "control by fear" is when you you are out. When you are in, it can dominate every action you take in your life, what type of job you take, who you associate with even what you eat and drink. The thought of everlasting life is not a "hope" it becomes a fear, a fear of "what if I don't make it?".

Any lurkers here who are worried about whether they are about to be put on god's "hit list", please realise he doesn't expect you to worship in fear of your life, it is the self appointed, uncaring men who call themselves the FDS and it's governing body who place these unreasonable demands and fears on you.

My greatgrandfather survived Armageddon

My grandfather survived Armageddon

My father survived Armageddon

I survived Armageddon

My kids survived Armageddon

When is it now??

The way the BORG changes the rules those who don't have time for a shepherding call might not make it.

What exactly is everyone expecting to happen? The wild beast coming after you and putting you to death? The nations turning on religion? Well guess what, this happened to those in The Middle East against the offspring of Abraham (along with others). The destruction of ungodly men is associated with mens "WAR". Not at The Hand of GOD.......

t.f.d.s.

All good questions, since Jehovah is Love we can be sure his judgement will be just.  The heart condition is of course very important and he will take into account every situation so it is hard to just generally label what will happen with each group.

As a form of disclaimer, these are just my thoughts and they should be taken as such.  I am not representing the whole organization nor do I want to even attempt to do so.

Before it happened to me, I used to believe (like most JWs) that disfellowshipped people were different. They had rejected the "truth" and were tainted, no longer part of the borg, their thinking and behaviour had changed completely. They no longer had a relationship with god. They deserved to be DF'd and therefore deserved to die at Armageddon. If I came in contact with a DF'd person I would shiver in horror because they were worse than the worst worldly people!

Of course then when I was DF'd I realized how ridiculous this was. I was the same person. I hadn't changed. I still believed the same JW garbage and lived by the same moral code. I knew I had the same relationship with god that I had always had and that he was not going to destroy me just because the elders said so.

After these elders put me and my family through hell for the next year and a half I began to wonder whether elders who took pleasure in hurting lesser JWs would survive Armageddon.