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What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
blondie
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:10:00 GMT
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![]() Post 28243 of 28485 Since 5/28/2001 |
Whatever they want to; which is a big change from the WTS. |
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:26:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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Post 21 of 22 Since 9/30/2009 |
As a person who is mentally out but physically in, I just believe that there is a god. That's all. Honeslty, I don't even blieve in the Bible or Jesus or ANY religion out there.
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:34:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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![]() Post 1063 of 1157 Since 1/8/2007 |
I have an open mind but so far science is winning out over religion....however who knows what tomorrow may bring? The Oracle |
lisavegas420
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:28:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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![]() OhioPost 3265 of 3299 Since 11/29/2002 |
I took this quiz yesterday on facebook, I thought it summed my current feelings quite well.
Lisa completed the quiz "What is your Spiritual Personality?" with the result Atheist/Agnostic. You believe that god is a concept created by man, one that cannot be proven (nor necessarily disproven) so you choose not to concern yourself with spiritual matters. You believe that people should live for the happiness of all in the here and now, and not because you hope for a good life after death. You are a thinker with an analytical, scientific and rational mind, and you question everything. lisa |
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:42:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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Post 3 of 6 Since 11/2/2009 |
I don't think there ever was a survey done with a meaningfully large sample but from what I gather from ex JW boards a large part become atheists and another large part join mainstream christian denominations or at least accept their beliefs but don't closely associate with them. A smaller part join non christian religions such as neo paganism, judaism, buddhism etc I accept the basic tenets of christianity and that it is the ideal way, without being judgemental against those that do not though I enjoy having debates with them. |
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:56:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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Post 6 of 29 Since 10/25/2009 |
I am confused always... looking for ways to dispute every uncomfortable doctrine pumped down my throat 3 to 5 times a week for 18 years. When I was a JW I of course wanted it to be true. Being sheltered from the hypocracy becz my family was good at being JW's (I guess) I took it all in, accepting it ,and looking down at the "world" for not wanting to hear the true religion. Now I am in the "world". I think I really left becz of some rebellion and not wanting to be controlled. I did believe it was the true religion even when I left. I just did not seem to really care. I used to tell my Mom "I would rather die with the world..then live forever with these people." I had no friends in the congregation and felt a horrible need to escape to somewhere that seemed more normal. I have been out for 10 years now and have just been living my life day to day. I mean the "world" kind of sucks too. The word ALONE takes on a new meaning out here. I know I am depressed by being shunned by my family. I cry as I type now. But it will never change. They are hooked, and they have a support system. There are 5 of them all faithful zombies of the organization, and one of me. I could never go back now. I have pushed all that nonsense to some corner in my brain. It pops up occassionally and I put it back where it belongs. I mean when someone tells you that 1 and 1 equals 4 your whole life. You really need factual proof to make you change your thinking. Due to the fact that no one really knows what the heck God wants, or if there really is a God at all, how could I ever feel totally secure. I need to do more research for myself Im sure. That is why I am on this site. Please help me with any unduckable facts that make their doctrines fake. |
fokyc
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:37:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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![]() England, GloucestershirePost 1021 of 1033 Since 5/30/2006 |
It seems to me that most people who completely sever themselves from the JW's believe that the JW's are a bunch of liars and sadly misled people. There are many very nice but very gullible people in the org. fokyc |
AllTimeJeff
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:17:00 GMT
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![]() Post 3647 of 3859 Since 11/9/2006 |
I can only speak for me.... After a period of anger and the typical "never again" thoughts, I realize that culturally, I was raised in a Judeo/Christian religious cult, in a Judeo/Christian society. Thus, I label myself culturally as a Christian for generalizing purposes. Religiously, I have no evidence to support traditional Christianity, with Jesus as god, anymore so then Islam, Buddhism, etc has such evidence. I certainly believe that logic and reason, along with establishing ones own unique identity, is something god would want us to do. I do not believe that organized religion is particularly healthy, both in my experience and in a review of history. However, I plainly see that this somewhat difficult to define "spiritual" side is part of most of us, and how we choose to take care of that can impact ones quality of life significantly. I value honesty in myself and in others most of all. Thats it! |
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:24:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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Post 113 of 125 Since 4/24/2009 |
I would describe myself as an agnostic at this point in my life. As for others I knew who used to be JW's most are either atheist or agnostics, it seems very rare for them to return to whatever religion they previously came from, or in the case of those that were born in it seems the JW experience kills any desire to return to another organized religion. |
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:05:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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Post 55 of 105 Since 10/26/2007 |
Yes, I am getting that loud and clear from everyone. It seems the WTS experience destroys trust in Scripture, God, the supernatural, and faith itself. :( |
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:30:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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Post 41 of 42 Since 3/27/2009 |
Thanks for asking...great question. Since experiencing the truth about "the Truth" (tm) and joining this forum I have given this matter a lot of thought. Perhaps it is my reluntance to give up the faith of my birth and parents, but for me I have, even though I still attend meetings, etc for my wife, kept some of the JW faith but with a twist. First, I have resigned myself to the fact that the WBTS is a cult that allows evil proeple to take advantage of others and that the WBTS victimizes the victims. Once I realized this damaging and currupting influence, I resolved to never subject anyone to this cancer, even though I go out "in service" (tm). And, so far I have managed to keep myself secret in my true beliefs... What are my beliefs? I believe that at one time the WBTS had close to (not all) of "the Truth" of the Bible but greed, power, curruption and just plain stupidity caused them to fail. That failure God sees and will judge the WBTS accordingly for all the harm they have done and contiue to do. Therefore, I do believe in a god that cares for ALL mankind (not just JWs) and that he does have a purpose to restore his original plans for the earth. It's just that we do not know when that will be. But I do know now that the WBTS is not the means to attain that "hope" and that the good people of "the world" can look forward to these blessings while the "bad" of the WBTS will be amazed at their judgement. HQ
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ESTEE
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:34:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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![]() British ColumbiaPost 2435 of 2463 Since 10/16/2002 |
I certainly don't believe in organized religion. I do believe in the harmony found within nature. ESTEE |
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:10:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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Post 5 of 6 Since 11/2/2009 |
After the typical abusive experience with the watchtower I am surprised that any ex JWs at all believe in God or Christ, it is more than enough to put anyone off religion for life that awful and oppressive JW god and his actions but fortunately he is just a satanic god and not the real one. |
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:20:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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![]() WashingtonPost 8051 of 8115 Since 4/25/2001 |
Many believe that they are personal failures for failing to meet the Divine Standards of "The Only True Religion," and that they are unworthy of life and happiness, since the sole purpose of life is to croak praise to the Creator, like a bunch of toads. THESE BELIEFS ARE ERRONEOUS! |
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:43:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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Post 226 of 286 Since 9/5/2009 |
I think All Time Jeff made an excellent point. I, personally, was never a JW and my parents largely never went to church. Therefore, I wasn't raised to believe in anything like God even though my mom believed in Him. I was, however, exposed to it early in my life and by the time I became a young adult, I immersed myself into Christianity at an Independent Fundamental Baptist church because I always knew that I was a 'spiritual' person and I was looking for answers. To Jeff's point, I latched onto Christianity because I live in a Judeo-Christian country and I particularly live in the 'Bible-belt' southern part of Virginia, the home of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and the like. Frankly, after truly examining myself, I can just as easily see myself becoming a Hindu or a Muslim or a Buddhist had I have been raised in a different part of the world. As for me, I am still a Christian as I believe it is the best religion for me spiritually. However, I do not like the idea that I have to follow a bunch of rules thinking that by doing so, I will have everlasting life. Never-the-less, I think rules are important in a civilized society and as long as they line up with the Golden Rule, it makes perfect sense. Dumb rules like "Thou Shalt Not Dance," "Thou Shalt Not Salute The Flag," "Thou Shalt Not Live At Home Past 18," etc. serve only the rule makers (men) and not God. |
flipper
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:48:00 GMT
(11/7/2009)
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![]() CaliforniaPost 9006 of 9128 Since 3/7/2007 |
They usually don't know what they believe - they are just finding out and discovering new ideas. Peace out, Mr. Flipper |
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Re: What do most ex-JWs "believe" after leaving?
posted Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:27:00 GMT
(11/16/2009)
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![]() Djibouti Post 3140 of 3146 Since 4/16/2001 |
I believe that she, |



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