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US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
besty
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US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:38:00 GMT
(11/2/2008)
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![]() CaliforniaPost 926 of 3914 Since 3/3/2005 |
615 circuits 47 districts (35 English, 12 Spanish) 157 Spanish circuits 3,270 Spanish congregations 280,000 Spanish-speaking publishers (Only Mexico has more Spanish As of September 1, 2008 there were 12,652 congregations; 4.6 new 41 Assembly Halls - West Palm Beach, Florida is the largest; 306 District Conventions in the U.S. This year with 1,500,000 115 Regional Building Committees; with 131,000 volunteers who A side note here: Tennessee RBC #1 had 900 volunteers a year ago. The Purchasing Department has moved from Brooklyn to Wallkill, NY The Convention Office is now at Patterson, NY MEPS will be moving to Patterson shortly 1,300 Bethelites have been reassigned with 470 now serving as There are about 30 "Desk Men" in the Service Department who handle
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insearchoftruth
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:40:00 GMT
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VirginiaPost 689 of 1787 Since 2/9/2006 |
What is the average size of a congregation??? What does the largest assembly hall seat??? Do they rent out the assembly halls? |
Gayle
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:59:00 GMT
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![]() ArizonaPost 652 of 3462 Since 11/17/2006 |
are you able to get the 2008 worldwide stats yet?
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besty
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:05:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 928 of 3914 Since 3/3/2005 |
no - I also note there wasn't a publisher figure quoted above
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cognac
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:23:00 GMT
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![]() MassachusettsPost 1306 of 2468 Since 1/7/2008 |
1,300 Bethelites have been reassigned with 470 now serving as hmmmm, what happened to the rest of them? Special Pioneers ![]() |
Seeker4
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:44:00 GMT
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![]() Post 3159 of 3376 Since 2/13/2001 |
The publisher/Pioneer figures ought to be in the KM. The latest KM would have the Aug or Sept figures for the end of the service year.
Thanks for these, Besty. S4 |
daniel-p
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Sun, 02 Nov 2008 18:38:00 GMT
(11/2/2008)
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![]() Post 2628 of 4737 Since 10/22/2005 |
So really, only 470 Bethelites were reassigned, the rest of the 1,300 were just let go, as was my brother and his wife. The pioneered for a little while, but then the realities of everyday living set in and now neither of them is pioneering. They're working full-time. 1,300 is a huge number, that's almost the size of Wallkill! That's some pretty big "streamlining" -- around 20% of the total US Bethel Family.
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yknot
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Sun, 02 Nov 2008 18:44:00 GMT
(11/2/2008)
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![]() Syrian Arab Republic Post 3233 of 9668 Since 8/24/2007 |
For the stats !!!! |
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:48:00 GMT
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Post 1758 of 2677 Since 3/1/2003 |
Somethings won't be reflected in the stats. How many congregations were disbanded or consolidated with other congregations in the New York City area and elsewhere in the United States How many Kingdom Halls were sold |
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:49:00 GMT
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Post 1759 of 2677 Since 3/1/2003 |
Only 13,000 baptized in the U.S.? If that's true, that's a huge drop from the usual 25-35k that get baptized each year. |
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:53:00 GMT
(11/2/2008)
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![]() Post 1176 of 1704 Since 8/9/2003 |
Did you notice that slightly more than 1 out of 4 congregations is Spanish?
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MissingLink
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:44:00 GMT
(11/3/2008)
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![]() Post 1610 of 2493 Since 9/18/2007 |
The above two stats are related. The wetbacks coming across the border get an automatic baptism in the Rio Grande. Since the USA gets to count the "publishers" it's only fair that Mexico gets to count the baptisms.
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Gayle
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Mon, 03 Nov 2008 01:46:00 GMT
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![]() ArizonaPost 653 of 3462 Since 11/17/2006 |
Amount baptized for 2007 in U.S. was 37,243. The amount noted above indicated was amount baptized at the "district" assemblies this year.
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Doubting Bro
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:08:00 GMT
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Post 534 of 1294 Since 2/22/2006 |
Thanks for the stats. I can see why there are rumors about doing away with the COs. Even if you quadruple the number of districts from 47 to 188 and give those positions to current COs, there would still be approximately 475 COs that would be out of work. Most COs are married (lets say 400 out of 475), so that's really 800 people that you don't have to worry about any longer. While most of the expenses (car, housing, insurance) are paid for by the locals in one way or another, I can see how the move would help improve the bottom line. No surprises here but good information.
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SnakesInTheTower
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Re: Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:01:00 GMT
(11/3/2008)
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![]() Saint Helena Post 2295 of 3768 Since 2/4/2007 |
besty... thanks for the stats...numbers are a funny thing..... 4.6 new congregations formed per WEEK that is 4.6 net per week....after closing down and merging some congregations...that number opening should go down again next year ISOT: What is the average size of a congregation??? What does the largest assembly hall seat??? Do they rent out the assembly halls? The largest assembly hall that the Society owns in the US is West Palm Beach FL (the former "leaky teepee")...and I believe it seats about 6,000. According to the article cited at the end of this paragraph, it is the largest WT owned auditorium in the world....cant confirm.... I was at West Palm for an assembly a year or two ago, but cant remember the exact number of seats. As to whether they rent these buildings out..no...and it is a point of contention with some in West Palm..they have no large indoor venues anymore after they sold the Teepee to WTBTS. (http://www.rickross.com/reference/jw/jw366.html) Snakes ( ) |
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:13:00 GMT
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Post 4567 of 6211 Since 4/7/2001 |
What jumps out here is the huge percentage of spanish speaking congregations within the total. They must be losing large numbers of English speaking publishers and congregations and having that fact hidden by the increase among the Spanish. I think the US has about 10% + Spanish speakers in the general population.
metatron |
sir82
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:25:00 GMT
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Mongolia Post 2279 of 6246 Since 5/17/2005 |
I would really really really like to see the English / non-English speaking ratio from 5, 10, 15, and 20 years ago. I'm 100% certain the Society has those numbers but would never in a million years release them - I'm almost certain they would show "negative growth" among English speakers of several percentage points per year. Imagine the discouraging effect that would have on English-speaking congregations! 20 years of door to door work in the USA, billions of hours, resulting in a net loss of, what? 5%? 10%? 20%? more? |
Not Feeling It
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:33:00 GMT
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Post 335 of 375 Since 1/31/2008 |
Interesting information. Thanks! So, 470 people were demoted to lower paying positions and 930 were laid off all together. Anyone know if the layoffs are still ongoing? Like most corporations, you layoff departments that are not profitable or in line with corporate direction and individuals who perform poorly or have attitude problems you don't want to fire for fear of litigation. Most of the strategic layoffs continue on a cycle until the numbers look better or the morale sinks to a point where natural attrition takes over. At least that's how they roll in the large corporations I have worked for. Fun stuff. -- Not Firing It |
besty
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:49:00 GMT
(11/4/2008)
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![]() CaliforniaPost 930 of 3914 Since 3/3/2005 |
Seems 15% of USA population is Hispanic yet 25% of WTS Districts are Spanish so a bit of a bias there. Check back in 5 years to see if the USA WTS are 60% Spanish... (PM me if you want to know why I reckon 60%)
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wha happened?
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Re: US Branch Stats direct from the Service Dept
posted Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:45:00 GMT
(11/4/2008)
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![]() CaliforniaPost 2257 of 8220 Since 10/2/2004 |
Did Missinglink just use the term wetback? So are blacks niggers and Asians chinks?
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