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    DavidChristopher My question of the day... posted Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:12:00 GMT (1/17/2006) edit


    United States Kentucky

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    Since 12/15/2005

    If Jehovah brings a new plan to light, a new idea...Does that make Him a different God, or the Same God with a new plan? 

    If I start doing things different, does that make me a different person, or the same person with different ways of doing things..  I still have all my past experiences in my memory don't I? So what I am saying is does becoming "wiser", or growing up, make you someone different?

    Any thoughts?

    Your Little Brother,

     David
    Dansk Re: My question of the day... posted Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:19:00 GMT (1/17/2006) edit


    United Kingdom England, Greater Manchester

    Post 3122 of 6166
    Since 2/16/2003

    David:

    I don't think you needed to bring Jehovah into this as your question could well have been:
    So what I am saying is does becoming "wiser", or growing up, make you someone different?

    The answer is, one is not exactly the same, nor different, either! Obviously one is the same person biologically - i.e. from child to adult - but we definitely change our thinking. I like to think I am a lot more wise these days! I'm still "me", but my outlook has changed!

    Ian
    daystar Re: My question of the day... posted Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:32:00 GMT (1/17/2006) edit


    United States Texas

    Post 1680 of 5179
    Since 6/22/2005
    Why would Jehovah, the Alpha and the Omega, have a need to become "wiser" or to "grow up"?
    Honesty Re: My question of the day... posted Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:03:00 GMT (1/17/2006) edit


    United States Tennessee

    Post 3422 of 8490
    Since 1/12/2005
    Why would Jehovah, the Alpha and the Omega, have a need to become "wiser" or to "grow up"?
    He doesn't. The Witchtower Babble and Trick Sycopaths have it all convoluted to keep the JW's decieved, dazed and confused.
    Nosferatu Re: My question of the day... posted Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:09:00 GMT (1/17/2006) edit


    Canada Manitoba

    Post 4712 of 7210
    Since 12/16/2002
    Was there a time when Jehovah wasn't potty trained?
    Narkissos Re: My question of the day... posted Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:21:00 GMT (1/17/2006) edit


    France

    Post 4427 of 9999
    Since 9/27/2003

    You've nailed one of the logical problems of monotheism. A god can change. "God" cannot.

    All definitions of "God" are mutually exclusive.
    mdb Re: My question of the day... posted Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:59:00 GMT (1/17/2006) edit


    Canada

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    Since 8/16/2005

    Changing a plan is not at all the same as changing a doctrine or a truth, and receiving "new light", as the WTS uses the phrase to excuse their mistakes, false prophecies and other blunders, doesn't cut it.

    The originally posted question sounds more like a defending statement in favour of the Watchtower. God is unchanging. He may change his mind on one thing or another, but His Word, the truth, never changes and the WTS distorts the truth and prophesies falsely.

    Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

    1 Jn 4:1

    when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

    Deut 18:22

    The WTS is not of God.
    jgnat Re: My question of the day... posted Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:26:00 GMT (1/18/2006) edit


    Canada Alberta

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    Since 7/4/2002

    I see it this way:
    1 Corinthians 13:12NIV Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

    So as we progress, God's will is progressively revealed to us.  But as Narkissos points out, God would not change.  And such a God wouldn't "change his mind", back and forth.  The Watchtower's society wavering policies (scream, don't scream), (no transplants, translpants OK) would not qualify as coming from God.

    I am fascinated with the Jewish interpretation of God's promises.  The good ones surely come to pass and are never late.  The warnings can be delayed - indefinitely - by our response.  Think Ninevah and their response to Jonah's message.  I am reminded of an annoyed parent that threatens dire warnings to a teenager, but only follows up if the teenager ignores the warning.
    jojochan Re: My question of the day... posted Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:26:00 GMT (1/18/2006) edit


    United States

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    Since 1/17/2006
    That's interesting that the society always stressed that God's chariot is always moving forward, in all different directions. Which implied that he changed, at a drop of a dime, which bothered me. But then they add that the "faithful slave" isn't perfect, but IS the mouthpeice of God. None of those that are in  inside take note of that; which is in fact scary.
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