So who's been out the longest??

Well some of you arent in the truth anymore,either left,df or da....so who's been out the longest??? and how many had the priviledge of going pio school?

What's "the truth"?  Have I suddenly departed into a lie?  I don't think so.  I left the WTS because of all the lies they and their representatives told.  I left the lie and found the real truth.

I had the enormous privelege of going to pioneer school with my mother. We had to stay at a home together. Joy. What fun. But seriously though, it wasn't that bad, but very exhausting, since on top of all the endless "study", I had to deal with my mom constantly.

Incidentally, within 6 months about three of the pioneer school people were DFd for various reasons, and many others were no longer pioneering.

A question for you Angeleyes: How long have you been disobeying the Society's admonition to NOT go on the Internet and talk to apostates?

And I've "been faded" since about 2006. It was somewhere around then that I stepped aside as an MS, and stopped going to meetings/service/etc.

<----born in, pioneer school always sounded boring as hell...not appealing

Well, to be perfectly honest about it - I started fading away in 1977.  Last meeting (the very last) in 1978.  Went to the so-called "elder" school in 1970 in Pittsburgh Pa - instructors were Schroeder and Davis.

Finally, the "committee" called me in 1981 and I told them to go to hell once and for all.

I've been out of the religion for 29 years. As far as refering to it as "The Truth" that is the very reason I got disfellowshipped. I told the elders that even if all doctrines were truthful the society should not be using that phrase because Jesus said of himself "I am the truth, the way and the life". In other words you are putting your religion on the same level as Jesus.

villabolo

Thanks for sharing with me guys,i just want to know i guess from another stand point. For me I personally couldnt imagine life without Jah etc,not saying that anyone isnt loving Jah...just trying to explain where im coming from. Jwoods,you been out officially 28 years wow....i couldnt live a day without being apart of the truth,but then again maybe thats what you all thought until whatever happened,happened.  Hoping ive not offended anyone,just interested thats all :)

You haven't offended me in the slightest, angel eyes. But just as you're curious about where we've been, we're also curious about you. When did you decide to go on the Internet, looking around for JWs, and when did you decide it was OK to talk to apostates?

I'm not judging you or anything, just honestly interested.

...i couldnt live a day without being a part of the truth...

Funny, that's what prompted most of us to leave.  We couldn't live a lie anymore, once we learned the truth about "the Truth".

Quit associating around 1995-6 after seeing the light, never disfellowshipped. Took me 26 years to realize this wasn't the "Truth", "The Way" or "The Life".

Attended many Pioneer Schools and was an instructor.

Hey....I decided to go onto the internet few weeks ago really,when i joint here...as for talking to apostates well thats an individual view id say :) I know some claim to be but by what they say its clear they arent,they are hurt and angry,which I can understand. Many on here pm me and we have nice discussions,they dont judge just as i dont..... just like you and I,we are finding out why eachother thinks the way they do,kinda,that sounds real odd lol but dont forget ive been hurt too its just my scars and pain drew me ever closer to Jehovah and made me want to stand even firmer beside him. Whatever reason people have to fall away thats truly between them and Jah, :)  Has that come across ok??

Angeleyes; don't worry about our being offended, worry about the fact that Jah is not interchangeable with the JWs. Worry about the lack of spirituality shown when someone who claims to be serving God at the same time says that he/she cannot do it alone. Bottom line, the WTBS uses God as a puppet in what is nothing more than a blasphemous ventriloquist act. What they really do is worship the organization.

villabolo

Me???

Out for 30 yrs.

Same question to you as from Daniel-P

Hey....I decided to go onto the internet few weeks ago really,when i joint here...as for talking to apostates well thats an individual view id say :) I know some claim to be but by what they say its clear they arent,they are hurt and angry,which I can understand. Many on here pm me and we have nice discussions,they dont judge just as i dont..... just like you and I,we are finding out why eachother thinks the way they do,kinda,that sounds real odd lol but dont forget ive been hurt too its just my scars and pain drew me ever closer to Jehovah and made me want to stand even firmer beside him. Whatever reason people have to fall away thats truly between them and Jah, :)  Has that come across ok??

Yeah, I think I understand what you're saying. From what it sounds like, you're saying that you've been hurt by the organization, prehaps disagree with a few things, and want to find others like yourself so you know you're not alone.

And that's EXACTLY what I felt like back in 2005.

Another thought, angeleyes, just as we don't think of ourselves as not being in "the Truth" so we do not consider ourselves as "falling away". Instead we've been lifted out of the dark pit that the "Society" truly is.

villabolo

Yh defo been hurt..wow been through horric things..trust me BUT i wouldnt ever blame the society of Jah,nothing to do with any of them....I know the individuals will perish at armegeddon,i have the patience of a saint and can wait for aslong as it takes for Jehovah to punish them. I just always make sure that im in good standing before Jah,yes i'll make mistakes as im imperfect but id never ever leave Jah. It's going through trials that makes you stronger, i wont let satan mislead me by using some in the truth who are claiming to love Jah and yet by their actions clearly dont...i'll keep my spiritual suit of armour strong and intact :)   (my posts are running short..booooo)  Im not looking for others like me because anyone who's doing right in Jahs eyes will get attacked by satan,and in all walks of life imperfect people will hurt us,yet Jehovah never ever abandonds us...never :)

Well angel eyes, if you're happy assigning your loyalty to an organization that really does not care about you, you should definetely give them your life. After all, you only have ONE life, and it would most certainly be wasted on this corrupt, white-washed organization. Good thing logic isn't your friend.

Logic is my middle name    

Ok, so, you don't blame Jah because it is his org that is imperfect.  You don't blame the org because it's really the people.  You agree that the org allows abusive people or leaders to keep their positions of authority in the lives of their 'flock', but also believe that Jah is directing the org.

My question for you, and I am serious now, when did Jah start leading the org you are a part of?  I truly saw no evidence that he had anything to do with the org when I was in.  The only evidence of direction was from the GB who lead the witnesses into one armageddon chase after another, flip-flopped on aspects of the blood doctrine causing great pain and hardship, and would allow their traveling henchmen (co/do) to give talks that they did not refute at the time even tho they knew the contents, and then blame the witnesses for misinterpereting, gave harmful direction in the areas how to approach mental disorders (depression), marital 'relations', parenting, education and non-reporting sexual and/or physical abuses of women and children to the authorities unless they were legally required to do so, and even then, try to do it anonymously.

So, since when did Jehovah have anything to do with the Org you so lovingly call 'the truth'?

J