Autism Times six.. on discovery health

Yes.

I don't feel sorry for them at all. That's what they wanted.  They clearly don't believe in genetic testing or abortion.  I'm not going to cheerlead for them.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7899821/

Would you allow Bill Gates to be born?

If you knew a woman who had 7 kids already, three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and she had syphilis, would you think she should stop having children?

Her 8th child was Beethoven.

Live and let live. 

CC81,

I think the same way you do, if it were me, and had 3 children and all had autism, I would not have more (try to not have more by prevention) because they would need my attention.  I know it would be difficult.  In fact, if I had 2 in a row that were autistic, I would have made the decision to stop having more children by prevention.

If there was an accident while trying to prevent having more babies, I would have my child, those would be the cards I was dealt with.

Interesting thread, interesting comments.

Nikki  

I understand everyone's point.  I think I would stop having kids after 2 that had autism myself.  But I also don't think it's my place to say what someone else should or shouldn't do. 

Should Palin run for VP considering she has 5 kids -- one with a DS and the other pregnant?  I wouldn't do it.  But that's me.  She can make her own decisions for her. 

They should do whatever they do and no one else should pass judgement on it!

Because there is no measurement or standard to apply to all people.  Also because it's a personal matter based on many factors including perspective. 

Again, there is no measurement.  What constitutes "seriously disabled"?  What are "unusually great things"?  Who is qualified to make these determinations?  Again, perspective.

Everybody struggles, including all the so-called "healthy" people.  Every body is less than perfect.  Some "serious" disabilities are more visible than others.  You're here.  You have health issues.  Deal with it.  Your parents don't owe you or anyone else an explanation of why they live their lives as they do.  Your ethics are just that, yours.  Applying them to other people, expecting others to conform to your standards, is the road to dissatisfaction and regret.

You've already taken up all the space and you're wallowing in it.

Get a life.

Okay, gotta chime in here.

I have three children.  One is "normal", one has autism and is profoundly mentally retarded, one has cerebral palsy and is severely mentally retarded.  And then there's my husband; he's a man, so that covers that. 

My "normal" child has had the most issues about negative quality of life because he was raised a JW.  My other two children are very happy, in part because they're not aware of the nonsense my oldest son was exposed to.  I am less happy than my handicapped children because of my 25+ years in the Borg and the accompanying family problems, social problems, disfellowshipping, etc.  My handicapped children's quality of life is far superior to those of us who have to deal with the day to day crap of living.  All my handicapped children have to deal with is whether to watch Barney or Caillou or whether they want orange juice or apple juice.  They're spoiled rotten, very happy, and I like it that way.  They are completely innocent and wonderful.  My oldest son, the normal one, he's the one with the most struggles.

What percentage of seriously "normal" people achieve unusually great things for the human race?????  Very few.  Why should mentally handicapped people be expected to exceed the standards of normal people?  How many normal people with no obstacles in their lives achieve virtually nothing?  How many cascade into a spiral of drug abuse, alcohol abuse, self-pity, adultery, materialism, etc.?  It's not like every normal person I know is out there trying to raise funds to free political prisoners or some other great work.  Most are out there trying to amass as much stuff for themselves as possible with little thought to the world around them. 

Personally, two handicapped children is all I can handle.  I love them dearly but, if I had six autistic children, I'd just get in the car and drive to Mexico and never come back.

StAnn

Based on this schematic, if they were sexually abused or physically abused they'd never know the difference there either.

Look--you can do what you want to do.  All I know is how difficult it is (physically, financially, morally) to raise two completely healthy children and expose them to the best life has to offer.  I have a workmate who can't even afford the *ucking 6 kids he has, and yet his wife is getting surgery so they can have two more!!!!!

Only the ignorant pop babies out without a financial plan. Only the ignorant allow their children to breeze through school on the hopes that there's a scholarship somewhere out there that will help them go to school.  Only the ignorant pop out babies without regard to planning exactly how it is they're going to parent that child.

Because the rest of us know, that even with a plan things go awry.

I am sorry and don't mean to offend anyone, but the natural life cycle says that moms and dads don't really have to change diapers much after the age of 2.  I would not and could not intentionally bring a child into this world that did not have the capability of growing into a normal human.

St. Ann for your other two there is always therapy.

Exactly.

If there is one message I could get across to poor women worldwide it would be to STOP HAVING GODD@MN BABIES!!!!

This is what Margaret Sanger fought so hard for.  Women if you don't know who this is, you should be shamed into learning.