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    Bangalore posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:19:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    Execution Of A Chinese Woman.

    Disclaimer - Contains Graphic Pictures.

    http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20041202_2.htm

    Bangalore

    M jookbeard posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:50:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    what did she do?

    M kurtbethel posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:16:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    Used too many pieces of toilet paper at a convention.

    Really though, it looks like they have an efficient assembly line operation going there.

    Bangalore posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:21:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    I think it was something to do with drug trafficking. It is a capital offense in China.

    Bangalore

    zoiks posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:34:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    I did not like that

    Violia posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:12:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    I know you put up a disclaimer and I did not have to click on the link but that is a human being and she has family and now her face is splatterd all over the net.

    M AK - Jeff posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:18:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    Ruthless! Wow.

    I am sorry I looked.

    Jeff

    PSacramento posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:42:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    Real violence tends to not be as neat and tidy as in the movies.

    China has a zero tolerance towards a few crimes, drug trafficking being one of them and excuted by shooting to the head is the main mode.

    I know it may not mean much but I don't think she felt anything, certainly felt less than an electric chair or a hanging.

    Still, it is a barbaric practise that needs to be prohibited.

    Justitia Themis posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:36:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    China executes more people annually than the rest of the world combined. Many, if not most, are not guilty of anything other than irritating a local official. Anything that disturbes the peace and unity of the nation is crime. Defense attorneys' primary duty is towards the State, not their client, so even if a person has a trial, they really have no one on their side. If an attorney DOES mount a vigorous defense, HE/SHE can be charged with a crime for disturbing the court or insulting the judge.

    The only reason the U.S. and other countries aren't saying all that much about is that China impacts money more than say the number two country, Iran.

    http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/ACT50/001/2010/en/17348b70-3fc7-40b2-a258-af92778c73e5/act500012010en.pdf

    CountryNumber executed in 2009
    1 People's Republic of ChinaPeople's Republic of ChinaOfficially not released. [ 46 ] [ 47 ] At least 1700 (estimated)
    2 IranIranAt least 388
    3 IraqIraqAt least 120
    4 Saudi ArabiaSaudi ArabiaAt least 69
    5 United StatesUnited States52
    6 YemenYemenAt least 30
    7 SudanSudanAt least 9
    8 VietnamVietnamAt least 9
    9 SyriaSyriaAt least 8
    10 JapanJapan7
    11 EgyptEgyptAt least 5
    12 LibyaLibyaAt least 4
    13 BangladeshBangladesh3
    14 ThailandThailand2
    15 SingaporeSingaporeAt least 1
    16 BotswanaBotswana1

    2009 Executions

    #1 China = at least 1700

    #2 Iran = 388

    *****Sorry for the three graphs. They didn't seem to be showing up until I actually posted; now I can't delete them. ??? Oh well...

    'Edited two of three graphs - AK Jeff'

    PSacramento posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:45:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    How does that add up per capita?

    sammielee24 posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:56:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    I didn't watch the video but keeping things in perspective, the USA has the highest rate of incarceration in the world. China executes for serious fraud and corruption as well - sammieswife---------

    Showing latest available data.

    Rank Countries Amount
    # 1 United States:715 per 100,000 people
    # 2 Russia:584 per 100,000 people
    # 3 Belarus:554 per 100,000 people
    # 4 Palau:523 per 100,000 people
    # 5 Belize:459 per 100,000 people
    # 6 Suriname:437 per 100,000 people
    # 7 Dominica:420 per 100,000 people
    # 8 Ukraine:416 per 100,000 people
    # 9 Bahamas, The:410 per 100,000 people
    # 10 South Africa:402 per 100,000 people
    # 11 Kyrgyzstan:390 per 100,000 people
    # 12 Singapore:388 per 100,000 people
    # 13 Kazakhstan:386 per 100,000 people
    # 14 Barbados:367 per 100,000 people
    # 15 Panama:354 per 100,000 people
    # 16 Trinidad and Tobago:351 per 100,000 people
    # 17 Thailand:340 per 100,000 people
    = 18 Estonia:339 per 100,000 people
    = 18 Latvia:339 per 100,000 people
    # 20 Saint Kitts and Nevis:338 per 100,000 people
    # 21 Grenada:333 per 100,000 people
    # 22 Botswana:327 per 100,000 people
    # 23 Swaziland:324 per 100,000 people
    # 24 Mongolia:303 per 100,000 people
    # 25 Antigua and Barbuda:278 per 100,000 people
    # 26 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines:270 per 100,000 people
    # 27 Namibia:267 per 100,000 people
    # 28 Tunisia:253 per 100,000 people
    # 29 Taiwan:250 per 100,000 people
    # 30 Saint Lucia:243 per 100,000 people
    # 31 Lithuania:234 per 100,000 people
    # 32 Costa Rica:229 per 100,000 people
    # 33 Iran:226 per 100,000 people
    # 34 Mauritius:214 per 100,000 people
    # 35 Poland:210 per 100,000 people
    # 36 Uruguay:209 per 100,000 people
    # 37 Seychelles:207 per 100,000 people
    # 38 Chile:204 per 100,000 people
    # 39 Azerbaijan:198 per 100,000 people
    # 40 Romania:193 per 100,000 people
    # 41 Uzbekistan:184 per 100,000 people
    # 42 Czech Republic:178 per 100,000 people
    = 43 Morocco:176 per 100,000 people
    = 43 Jamaica:176 per 100,000 people
    # 45 Guyana:175 per 100,000 people
    # 46 Israel:174 per 100,000 people
    # 47 Libya:173 per 100,000 people
    # 48 Honduras:172 per 100,000 people
    = 49 Mexico:169 per 100,000 people
    = 49 Brazil:169 per 100,000 people
    = 51 Slovakia:165 per 100,000 people
    = 51 Hungary:165 per 100,000 people
    = 53 Malaysia:161 per 100,000 people
    = 53 Tajikistan:161 per 100,000 people
    # 55 New Zealand:160 per 100,000 people
    # 56 El Salvador:158 per 100,000 people
    # 57 Dominican Republic:157 per 100,000 people
    # 58 Bahrain:155 per 100,000 people
    # 59 Georgia:148 per 100,000 people
    # 60 Lebanon:146 per 100,000 people
    # 61 Spain:144 per 100,000 people
    = 62 Lesotho:143 per 100,000 people
    = 62 Nicaragua:143 per 100,000 people
    = 64 Madagascar:130 per 100,000 people
    = 64 Portugal:130 per 100,000 people
    = 66 Cameroon:129 per 100,000 people
    = 66 Burundi:129 per 100,000 people
    # 68 Bulgaria:127 per 100,000 people
    # 69 Colombia:126 per 100,000 people
    # 70 Zambia:121 per 100,000 people
    # 71 China:119 per 100,000 people
    M RubaDub posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:57:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    United StatesUnited States52

    Of the 52 in the United States, I would guess that the People's Republic of Texas would have about 50 ... slightly less than Saudi Arabia and a few more than Yemen.

    Rub a Dub

    JWoods posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:13:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    Of the 52 in the United States, I would guess that the People's Republic of Texas would have about 50 ... slightly less than Saudi Arabia and a few more than Yemen.

    Not that many, but at least we don't keep them on death row until they die of natural causes, like California.

    I would still be interested in hearing the capital punishment / population ratio for the first five nations in the graphs.

    Mad Sweeney posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:17:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    I used to be for capital punishment. After all, some crimes deserve the death penalty.

    Then I read "Mistakes Were Made - But Not By Me" and my entire outlook changed. I still feel that some crimes deserve the death penalty but I don't trust a conviction unless there is video of the crime being committed.

    M undercover posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:28:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    I used to be for capital punishment. After all, some crimes deserve the death penalty.
    Then I read "Mistakes Were Made - But Not By Me" and my entire outlook changed. I still feel that some crimes deserve the death penalty but I don't trust a conviction unless there is video of the crime being committed.

    I'm kinda like you, though I havent read what you reference. I'm still for capital punishment in absoluetly clearcut cases where there's no chance for mistakes. But I've seen enough mistakes made to know that maybe there should be more prudence.

    I learned to not really make a hard judgement on anyone found guilty or innocent. I wasn't there, I wasn't with the detectives, I wasn't on the jury. I don't know all the details...I don't know all the facts...or the lies. I've learned to accept innocent until proven guilty.

    A case in my home town cause me to step back from my quick judgemental thinking. A guy was arrested for raping and killing a woman. He was a ne'er-do-well with a history. He was known to cops. He was found near the scene. During the trial, he was identified by supposed witnesses as being seen over the woman's body.

    He was found guilty. The circumstantial evidence was pretty good. He maintained his innocence the entire time. He was sent to death row.

    Years later, DNA research became big. His lawyers spent years trying to get his DNA examined against evidence stilll held by the SBI. Once they finally got that through the courts, it was discovered he was not the killer. The killer was another local criminal...who was an early suspect but the cops didnt' pursue him for some reason.

    The convicted killer was cleared, released and the real killer confessed...from behind bars, his being in prison for other crimes committed.

    All this time, very few people in the community believed the convicted killer. He was alreay a guy with a record, he had oppurtunity, he was seen in the area, he was identified (though in error). I was dead set against him. I knew he was guilty. I went along with everyone else. When it was exonerated I had to really step back and examine how I acted. I wasn't too proud of myself.

    sammielee24 posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:36:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    Crime Statistics > Executions (per capita) (most recent) by country

    VIEW DATA: Totals Per capita
    Definition Source Printable version
    Bar Graph Map
    Showing latest available data.
    Rank Countries Amount
    # 1 Bahamas, The:6.62712 executions per 1 million
    # 2 Singapore:6.32625 executions per 1 million
    # 3 Sierra Leone:4.09068 executions per 1 million
    # 4 Belarus:3.20388 executions per 1 million
    # 5 Rwanda:2.84327 executions per 1 million
    # 6 Kuwait:2.56849 executions per 1 million
    # 7 Oman:1.99867 executions per 1 million
    # 8 Congo, Democratic Republic of the:1.64571 executions per 1 million
    # 9 Jordan:1.5625 executions per 1 million
    # 10 Taiwan:1.39775 executions per 1 million
    # 11 Saudi Arabia:1.09774 executions per 1 million
    # 12 Iran:0.970331 executions per 1 million
    # 13 Yemen:0.820186 executions per 1 million
    # 14 China:0.816802 executions per 1 million
    # 15 Kyrgyzstan:0.777303 executions per 1 million
    # 16 Egypt:0.619307 executions per 1 million
    # 17 Lebanon:0.522739 executions per 1 million
    # 18 Cuba:0.440645 executions per 1 million
    # 19 Afghanistan:0.334124 executions per 1 million
    # 20 United States:0.229936 executions per 1 million
    # 21 Vietnam:0.215476 executions per 1 million
    # 22 Zimbabwe:0.16446 executions per 1 million
    # 23 Guatemala:0.0832362 executions per 1 million
    # 24 Syria:0.0542035 executions per 1 million
    # 25 Japan:0.0470895 executions per 1 million
    # 26 Nigeria:0.0465962 executions per 1 million
    # 27 Sudan:0.0248837 executions per 1 million
    # 28 Pakistan:0.0246275 executions per 1 million
    # 29 Thailand:0.0155797 executions per 1 million
    # 30 Ethiopia:0.0136887 executions per 1 million
    = 31 Somalia:0 executions per 1 million
    = 31 Iraq:0 executions per 1 million
    = 31 Uzbekistan:0 executions per 1 million

    JWoods posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:02:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    Well, wait just a minute - how can Iraq be at the top of the chart in the first set of data, and have 0 per 1 million in the second?

    Second, I also am re-evaluating my view on the death penalty in the U.S. I say ONLY for capital murder, and ONLY if absolutely no doubt remains.

    Certainly not for a woman dealing drugs in china (unless she murdered somebody in course of the crime) and ABSOLUTELY not for "adultery" in Saudi, Iran, Afghanistan or such.

    Justitia Themis posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:12:00 GMT(7/22/2010)

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    The raw data for the per/capita figures was from 2007. The figures I posted were from 2009. China's numbers differ drastically. In 2007 they executed 'only' 470 persons, while in 2009, it was more than 1700.

    # 1 China:470 executions
    # 2 Iran:317 executions
    # 3 Saudi Arabia:143 executions
    # 4 Pakistan:135 executions
    # 5 Congo, Democratic Republic of the:100 executions
    # 6 Egypt:48 executions
    # 7 United States:42 executions
    # 8 Iraq:33 executions
    # 9 Taiwan:32 executions
    # 10 Vietnam:25 executions
    = 11 Sierra Leone:24 executions
    = 11 Rwanda:24 executions
    = 13 Afghanistan:15 executions
    = 13 Yemen:15 executions
    = 15 Libya:9 executions
    = 15 Japan:9 executions
    = 15 Jordan:9 executions
    = 18 Sudan:7 executions
    = 18 Syria:7 executions
    = 20 Nigeria:6 executions
    = 20 Bangladesh:6 executions
    = 20 Oman:6 executions
    = 23 Cuba:5 executions
    = 23 Somalia:5 executions
    # 25 Kyrgyzstan:4 executions
    # 26 Equatorial Guinea:3 executions
    = 27 Lebanon:2 executions
    = 27 Bahamas, The:2

    BTW, thank you AK Jeff for editing out those extra two graphs. :)

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