Paleontologists Brought to Tears, Laughter by Creation Museum

Paleontologists brought to tears, laughter by Creation Museum

The museum argues that the fossil record has been misinterpreted and that Tyrannosaurus rex was a vegetarian before Adam and Eve bit into that sin-inducing apple.

Jardine, a palaeobiologist graduate student from the University of Birmingham, was having fun on the tour, but told a reporter that he was disturbed by the museum's cartoonish portrayal of scientists and teachers.

"I feel very sorry for teachers when the children who come here start guessing if what they're being taught is wrong," Jardine said.

Arnie Miller, a palentologist at the University of Cincinnati who was chairman of the convention, said he hoped the tour would introduce the scientists to "the lay of the land" and show them firsthand what's being put forth in a place that has elicited vehement criticism from the scientific community.

http://www.physorg.com/news165555744.html

Paleontology and Creationism Meet but Don’t Mesh

But here in the Creation Museum in northern Kentucky, Earth and the universe are just over 6,000 years old, created in six days by God. The museum preaches, “Same facts, different conclusions” and is unequivocal in viewing paleontological and geological data in light of a literal reading of the Bible.

In the creationist interpretation, the layers were laid down in one event — the worldwide flood when God wiped the land clean except for the creatures on Noah’s ark — and these dinosaurs died in 2348 B.C., the year of the flood.

“That’s one thing I learned,” Dr. Sato said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/30/science/30muse.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&ref=science

The creation museum is such a joke.

Ok... so how do they explain 12 billion-year-old light from objects far away in space?  Did gawd put the light there to "test" or "fool" humans who do not believe in the 6000 year-old-earth?

Ok... so how do they explain 12 billion-year-old light from objects far away in space?  Did gawd put the light there to "test" or "fool" humans who do not believe in the 6000 year-old-earth?

Yes, that is what some folks believe. That God created those luminaries and then "stretched" the rays of light "out" so that we can see them.

Step #1: START with the CONCLUSION.

It's all downhill from there.

Ok... so how do they explain 12 billion-year-old light from objects far away in space?  Did gawd put the light there to "test" or "fool" humans who do not believe in the 6000 year-old-earth?

I think they claim that the speed of light has changed.  It's just so ridiculous.  What nincompoops.

Yes I atually agree with this because they are speculating on the bible which clearly is not meant to be a scientific book so they are going beyond it and making fools of themselves.

but evolution isn't free of it's own start with conclusion points - evolution not started by God = conclusion so must have been a big bang = speculation.

Reniaa

To offer one example of an "intelligent design" there is the Ostrich that has vestigial wings but can't fly.

Reniaa, Don't let yourself sound ill-informed. The big bang is a logical explanation of how an extremely small and extremely dense entity (? the singularity)was able to overcome the extreme gravitational forces exerted by it's very existence in order to expand to form the unverse. The universe IS expanding (the WTS acknoledge this in the Creator book, and provable by the Doppler effect), so it must have started small and got bigger. The energy required for this would have been enough to cause a very big bang. How did the big bang initiate? I know what I believe...........and the reason why? In the wake of an explosion we see Chaos but with the big bang we see order, which is why I believe it was initiated and controlled by a creator.

Ostridge wings are used for balance, they are used in courship displays, the adults use them protect their chicks - hardly vestigal!!! Penguins are flightless they use their wings for swimming. Kiwis - well that;s a different story altogether.

cantleave without proof it may sound good but it is still speculation. that the universe is expanding I accept but that any sort of bang was needed Is pure speculation based on current knowledge that you use the word controlled shows you yourself would limit the bang. I'm not saying it couldn't have happened that way I'm just saying that we have no proof only the end result of SOMETHING. 

I am no scientists but I know after any explosion even planned ones the effects are still random and uncontrolled and why no one stands nearby. The one thing God isn't is uncontrolled. If we know one thing about gravity, atons, DNA structure is the fine planning is quite beautiful.

Reniaa

My point exactly. Jehovah creates and has the ability to control the energy required to start the Universe as we know it. The big bang theory just says there must have been an enormouse release of energy at that point. It is right. Stephen Hawkings has never been able to show where that energy came from, so he hasn't denied that it could be God. When someone lumps the notion of a Big Bang in with aetheism it makes them sound like the idiots who really do believe that the earth and the universe are 6000 years old.

The museum argues that the fossil record has been misinterpreted and that Tyrannosaurus rex was a vegetarian before Adam and Eve bit into that sin-inducing apple.

Oh dude. Oh dude. That made me laugh so hard it was better than an orgasm. I can now scratch "laugh til you cry" off of my bucket list.

BTS

cantleave, many birds use their wings for display but that is not the primary and original purpose of them. Also, I never said penguin wings are vestigial, they have instead been readapted from one use, flying, to another use, swimming. Such readaptation itself is proof of evolution since all animals show evidence of having changed their body plan.

Hi cantleave

We do know that holy spirit is God's power and constantly acting on the earth, in fact a form of continuous energy. If I put my own personal thoughts on it, I see the start like a plant growing not a bang at all with God as the orignator feeding and watering with his energy adding and creating, molding when needed with Jesus's help as the master worker.

it's all speculation without knowledge that only God supplies but I am resistant to trying to cobble two apposing viewpoints together to try and get what is an ill-fitting whole that no one can believe in.

Reniaa

The human foot is another example of evolution. Any engineer/biologist could redesign it more efficiently into a horse shaped hoof. The reason though it looks like that is because it evolved from an apes' foot/hand. A chimpanzee has a foot that can both walk and grasp we, on the other hand, have a foot that has been altered by evolutionary process to walk while maintaining a remnant of what used to be fingers. It works fine but with a lot of excess baggage and weak points that does not reflect well upon an "intelligent designer".

No one knows how long a day is in God years, no one knows how long the universe has existed or what came before us on this earth.  We can dig great stuff out of the ice, etc. but it never proves the time line according to the WBTS.  They can pooh pooh carbon dating all they like,.....their opine means nothing.  It's pure speculation.

But one thing never changes.....The absolute mathmatics of time, which means light years are always exact, gravity is exact, the rotation of planets is exact, our calendars are exact.

From the beginning the Jw's have miss calculated, predicted, failed, and failed again. They can never be trusted as far as scientific thinking goes in the simplest of terms.

r.

The Creation Museum doesn't happen to explain who created God, does it?

The Creation Museum doesn't happen to explain who created God, does

Nobody created God. You don't have to be a genius to understand that. The uncaused Cause, by definition.

Now bring on the special pleading blah blah. God isn't part of the set you see. He is not one of a group of anything else other than Himself. Totally Unique. So talk to the hand.

BTS

So BTS, that's what it says in the Creation Museum?

Every year, DNA and fossil evidence supporting the theory of evolution gets stronger.  Every year, biologists make predictions based on principles established by Darwin's theory, and so far, those predictions have delivered (for example, the difference in chromosome count between humans and other primates prompted scientists to wonder why.  Using the theory of evolution, scientist predicted that as we shared an ancestor, we should find that one of our chromosomes formed from the fusing of two others.  As predicted, human chromosome 2 exhibits this pattern.)  Every year, the theory is upheld by thousands of experiments and observations.

Unfortunately, creationists couldn't embrace the concept when it was young - it would mean conceding defeat as it were, at least on some points.  Now, like the little kid caught telling a lie, they dig their heels in more and more, making fools out of themselves with ridiculous abominations like this 'creation museum'.  The only hope left for creationists is that God will suddenly appear one day, and all these nasty little facts will go away.

Meanwhile, in the real world, eventually all medicine could very likely be based on genetics and evolutionary biology.  People will move past this speed-bump of hard-headedness, and when they have, what will they write in their history books about those who lost at the Dover trial?

Evolution isn't new, and while the theory may be improved, it isn't going to go away.  Best get used to the idea.

- Lime