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    M Neo posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 05:29:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    "The 12 apostles acted as an authoritative central governing body."
    The Watchtower 5/15/97 p.15

    On Wednesday, August 25th, it was announced at the breakfast table at Bethel that two new members were being added to the Governing Body. They are Anthony Morris and Geoffrey Jackson.

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    "Tony" and "Jeff" were already considered "Governing Body material" because they were GB assistants in Bethel and "partake" of the "Memorial".

    Morris is from Italian descent and, unlike most of the predominantly childless GB, has raised two sons "in the Troof". He is in his fifities. Jackson is the first Australian member of the Governing Body. He is from the island of Tasmania and is also in his fifties.

    With these two new additions, the GB now adds up to twelve members. Here are the others:

    The old guard:
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    Carey Barber Albert Schroeder John Barr Daniel Sydlik Theodore Jaracz (the Boss!)

    The new kids on the block (but as diehard as the old ones):

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    Guy Pierce Samuel Herd Gerrit Lösch David Splane


    Steve Lett

    Although it was possibly unintentional (the member total has oscillated since the seventies), they now make up a "perfect ideal number" since they see themselves as the modern counterpart of the twelve apostles.

    Far from being an impressive fact, as it will no doubt sound to faithful Witnesses, the existence of the current 12-member GB is a real embarrassment to the JWs. It's one of the greatest confirmations that it is really a make-believe religion. Why? Because one of the cornerstones of the JW doctrine is that the 144,000 number was completed in the twentieth century. The Watchtower says very clearly that the heavenly calling ended in the mid-thirties. No one less than their chief theologian, the deceased Fred Franz, said it in no uncertain terms:

    *** w99 2/1 19 Our Treasure in Earthen Vessels ***

    "No More Additions!"

    At a Gilead graduation in 1970, Frederick Franz, then vice-president of the Watch Tower Society, told the students of the possibility that they, who were all of the other sheep with earthly hopes, might baptize someone who might claim to be of the anointed remnant. Could this happen? Well, he explained that John the Baptist was of the other sheep, and he baptized Jesus and some of the apostles. Then he went on to ask whether there still was a call for gathering in more of the remnant. "No, no more additions!" he said. "That call ended way back there in 1931-35! There are no more additions. Who, then, are the few newly associated ones who are partaking of the Memorial emblems? If they are of the remnant, they are replacements! They are, not additions to the ranks of the anointed, but replacements for those who may have fallen away."

    It has been 70 years since 1935!! Going by Franz's teaching, we can say that most members of the "anointed class" actually end up "falling away" and being "replaced", since the call ended in 1935 and there are still thousands partaking (when at least 75% should have had already died, taking as basis a normal mortality rate).

    Now let's do a little research on the birthyear of the Governing Body's members:

    Carey Barber ………………1905
    Albert Schroeder…………..1911
    John Barr ………………… 1913
    Daniel Sydlik……………… 1919
    Theodore Jaracz……………1924
    Guy Pierce …………………1934
    Samuel Herd ……………….1935
    Gerritt Losch ……………….1941
    David Splane ……………... 1944
    Steve Lett …………………. 1949
    Anthony Morris..................Late 40's/Early 50's (?)
    Geoffrey Jackson ..............Late 40's/Early 50's (?)

    The Watchtower says that babies cannot be anointed. And then we come to the death-blowing conclusion: according to JW doctrine, most of the GB were anointed after Heaven's Door was closed! With the two GB additions, the post 1935 anointed are the majority!

    How can that be? The Watchtower has never made a comment about that kind of fact! They have painted themselves into a corner. Why does the "faithful slave" need so many "replacements"?

    Will they bother to comment? No. It's just a fake doctrine. Witnesses don't take the time to check reality, and the GB knows it very well. Much like the discarded "generation of 1914", the 1935 doctrine has an expiration date. But you can be sure that Morris and Jackson, like the rest of the Governing Body, won't take their time to explain this doctrinal mess.

    They'll make it up as they go along.

    Neo

    M sonnyboy posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 05:40:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    Being white people are actually a global minority, it's funny that Jehobah would pick a bunch of old crackers to run his organization.

    M tetrapod.sapien posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 05:51:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    HA HA HA!! LOL! awesome thread...he he ...

    just looking at these smiling doofs makes me crack up.

    just to think that i once thought joe hoba's holy spirit somehow joggled the synapses in those old crow brains, is almost beyond me to explain. i used to wait so fervently for the final talk at the DC, just so i could SEE one of these dudes. amazing.

    amazing that i ever looked at these guys and actually believed them.

    i wish some hot sexy apostababes had kidnapped me years ago and tortured me into heathenism. oh well. dare to dream, dare to dream.

    TS

    F 4JWY posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 05:55:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    HA tetrapod, sexy apostababe I was in my dreams......

    Any more recent pics of these dudes? Barber doesn't look bad for 100 years old!

    M Neo posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 06:03:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    Barber, 100:

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    F 4JWY posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 06:06:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    oohhh.....not my cup of tea!

    M sonnyboy posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 06:21:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    Seeing them all flock around that corpse is nauseating.

    F horrible life posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 06:58:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    Barber looks mighty happy holding that young sisters hand!! I wonder what he will do tonight in his little apartment? You think he may need to PRAY if any little thing comes up? Do you think the Watchtower Pharmacy prescribes the little blue pill? HL

    M steve2 posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:31:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    So, by the earlier chronological calculations, most of the members of the governing body can officially be referred to as "the Replacements". Goodbye the anointed.

    Oh the wonderful hierarchical majesty of it all!

    On the absolutely positive side, some of the younger members at least have the decency to look redeemably attractive which can lead the more flesh-oriented among us to forgive them their utterances when they open their boring mouths to make pronouncements from on high.

    M doofdaddy posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:37:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    Sheesh, amazing. He doesn't look a day over 99!

    M PaulJ posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:40:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    It looks like he has just farted.....

    Also is it me or does it look like the sister is trying to prise her hand away from his????

    And I love the fake smiles

    M tijkmo posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:08:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    By the 1930’s, then, it was becoming clear that, in general, the heavenly class had been chosen. For decades now, the search has been for other sheep, whose hope is earthly. If an anointed one proves unfaithful, it is most likely that a person who has long served God faithfully as one of the other sheep would be called to fill the vacancy thus caused in the 144,000.

    i dont have a problem with the nessecity for replacements to take the place of 'unfaithful' anointed ones.. (according to jw understanding) and those that are now on the gb may well be long served ones....

    but they werent when they first began partaking...not as a just out of teens bethel newby..no matter how 'faithful' they have been since

    are we to assume that at the time there was no-one as faithful to take the place of an 'unfaithful' one

    Golf posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:49:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    Golf posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:50:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    Hmmmmm, Jackson. Is having a Tasmanian 'devil' a coincidence?


    Golf

    mineralogist posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:26:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    Excellent research Neo.

    I felt free to transform it for the germans: http://www.sektenausstieg.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1326&Itemid=29
    you know: "apostates" are always informed first

    F damselfly posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:00:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    Some of them manage to look almost ****nice**** in their photos, the majority just look smug. Most of all Theo. He makes me want to slap that smirk off his face.

    i wish some hot sexy apostababes had kidnapped me years ago and tortured me into heathenism. oh well. dare to dream, dare to dream.

    Tetra ~ If you had lived in Nova Scotia my friends and I would have taken care of ya!

    Dams

    F yesidid posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:02:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    Hmmmmm, Jackson. Is having a Tasmanian 'devil' a coincidence?

    Don't worry, he wasn't born there. He just lived there a few years. He was born in Queensland.


    Yesidid

    M Pole posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:11:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    what tetra said. How many of us would think looking at bro Barber: "He's just about to become a heavenly king - a real Jesus' buddy! Wow!".
    Pole

    F Legolas posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:53:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    F rebel8 posted Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:14:00 GMT(8/26/2005)

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    Being white people are actually a global minority, it's funny that Jehobah would pick a bunch of old crackers to run his organization.

    I have always wondered why a religion supposedly based upon a middle eastern supernatural being (Jesus) ends up to be so centered around WASPs. Perhaps it's new light.

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